hi
could anyone give some feedback on differences, advantages, disadvantages about using Ubuntu Studio vs 64Studio? I have been using Ubuntu Studio for a few months but I am not so happy with it since I upgraded to Gutsy.
i want to use it for PD, Supercollider, Python programming, and will be using it with a firewire soundcard. I read in a general music forums that 64Studio is more efficient and reliable but I would like to hear from somebody doing similar work as me.
many thanks
enrike
Hallo, altern hat gesagt: // altern wrote:
could anyone give some feedback on differences, advantages, disadvantages about using Ubuntu Studio vs 64Studio? I have been using Ubuntu Studio for a few months but I am not so happy with it since I upgraded to Gutsy.
i want to use it for PD, Supercollider, Python programming, and will be using it with a firewire soundcard. I read in a general music forums that 64Studio is more efficient and reliable but I would like to hear from somebody doing similar work as me.
64studio and Ubuntustudio aren't much different in itself, in fact, they even share a lot of packages taken from Debian. For example the pd-packages on both are the same. The desktop may be configured differently, though, but that's a per-user-setting, which you can change of course. So I wouldn't bother with reinstalling the system completely, but instead configure the system so you like it. Maybe use a diffferent window manager or build your own kernel? What exactly is wrong with your machine?
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
a diffferent window manager or build your own kernel?
btw, ubuntu studio comes with a generic kernel, whereas 64studio has a realtime-optimized kernel. so if you are afraid of "building your own kernel", 64studio might be a good option here.
fgmasdr. IOhannes
On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 10:39 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
a diffferent window manager or build your own kernel?
btw, ubuntu studio comes with a generic kernel, whereas 64studio has a realtime-optimized kernel. so if you are afraid of "building your own kernel", 64studio might be a good option here.
ubuntu gutsy provides packages for a real-time patched kernel: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/base/linux-image-2.6.22-14-rt
cheers, tim
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Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
btw, ubuntu studio comes with a generic kernel, whereas 64studio has a realtime-optimized kernel.
Not anymore: Ubuntustudio 7.10 has a fully rt-patched kernel, I just recently installed it on a friend's machine. But my main point is, that it is not necessary to reinstall a system just because of one component. I run the same Debian install on my main machine that I installed like 8 years ago. Of course I updated packages, stiwched hardware etc., but I never reinstalled from scratch.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 14:08 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
btw, ubuntu studio comes with a generic kernel, whereas 64studio has a realtime-optimized kernel.
Not anymore: Ubuntustudio 7.10 has a fully rt-patched kernel, I just recently installed it on a friend's machine. But my main point is, that it is not necessary to reinstall a system just because of one component. I run the same Debian install on my main machine that I installed like 8 years ago. Of course I updated packages, stiwched hardware etc., but I never reinstalled from scratch.
yo, that is the way how linux works, for sure. but from a psychological perspective, it might feel good to make 'tabula rasa'. also do many people tend (me included) to install stuff and install stuff, so that they don't anymore what was installed. and even if you remove that stuff, the stuff, that was installed, because it was a dependency of the previous stuff, remains installed. there are for sure clean ways to handle that, but starting from scratch just 'feels' very different -> you _add_ something (positive), you don't _remove_ stuff (negative).
i am sure, i'll do a 'install from scratch' again once in the future, even if it cannot be justified from a purely technical point of view.
my 2¢ CAD
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Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote:
yo, that is the way how linux works, for sure. but from a psychological perspective, it might feel good to make 'tabula rasa'. also do many people tend (me included) to install stuff and install stuff, so that they don't anymore what was installed. and even if you remove that stuff, the stuff, that was installed, because it was a dependency of the previous stuff, remains installed. there are for sure clean ways to handle that, but starting from scratch just 'feels' very different -> you _add_ something (positive), you don't _remove_ stuff (negative).
For that I have my big "apt-get dist-upgrade", when a new version of Debian comes out. I see it like this: I don't want to tear down the house and build it again when all I want is new color on the walls.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
Frank Barknecht(e)k dio:
Hallo, altern hat gesagt: // altern wrote:
could anyone give some feedback on differences, advantages, disadvantages about using Ubuntu Studio vs 64Studio? I have been using Ubuntu Studio for a few months but I am not so happy with it since I upgraded to Gutsy.
i want to use it for PD, Supercollider, Python programming, and will be using it with a firewire soundcard. I read in a general music forums that 64Studio is more efficient and reliable but I would like to hear from somebody doing similar work as me.
64studio and Ubuntustudio aren't much different in itself, in fact, they even share a lot of packages taken from Debian. For example the pd-packages on both are the same. The desktop may be configured differently, though, but that's a per-user-setting, which you can change of course. So I wouldn't bother with reinstalling the system completely, but instead configure the system so you like it. Maybe use a diffferent window manager or build your own kernel? What exactly is wrong with your machine?
well... I found that some applications are a bit buggy. but i guess this is the applications and not the system itself. Also I cannot Jack to work with my RME Digi96/8 sound card. But I see this is the same with the 64Studio live cd so I guess it is a problem with the card configuration or jack.
enrike
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