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The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of April 24:00h (UTS +2)
http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Pure_Data_convention_2011
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of April 24:00h (UTS +2)
reminder
BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. This should give you an idea of how many people submitted, though this may count some cancelled submissions, multiple submissions by same people, and it doesn't count anyone who submit after 24h00.
(I'm only talking about papers ; other submissions are handled separately)
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
Any thoughts or numbers regarding this value vs. the previous pdcons?
It doesn't surprise me, since it is a rather small conference - it is very specific, which is what motivates me towards it, its a place to definitely get in touch with pd development and research - when you compare it to the "major" conferences, such as CHI, INTERACT (huge conferences), or more sound related: NIME, SMC (medium/big-sized) and so forth.
I think I was submission 279 on NIME (long papers track) and I registered a few days before the end. Just to give an example.
Best, Pedro
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.cawrote:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of April
24:00h (UTS +2)
reminder
BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. This should give you an idea of how many people submitted, though this may count some cancelled submissions, multiple submissions by same people, and it doesn't count anyone who submit after 24h00.
(I'm only talking about papers ; other submissions are handled separately)
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote:
Any thoughts or numbers regarding this value vs. the previous pdcons?
PdConvention Graz had no submission process for papers.
PdConvention Montréal had something like 43 or 46 submissions for papers.
PdConvention São Paulo had... I don't remember (or perhaps I never knew).
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39.
Then according to you data, Weimar has about 40.
PdConvention Montréal had something like 43 or 46 submissions for papers.
And Montréal had about the same.
Seems ok, imho its a very idiosyncratic conference.
Best regards, Pedro
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.cawrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote:
Any thoughts or numbers regarding this value vs. the previous pdcons?
PdConvention Graz had no submission process for papers.
PdConvention Montréal had something like 43 or 46 submissions for papers.
PdConvention São Paulo had... I don't remember (or perhaps I never knew).
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote:
Seems ok, imho its a very idiosyncratic conference.
Well, at the same time, you'd think that there would be more submissions, now that the pd-community has grown. But it's not like that.
Proximity still makes a big difference, as we have seen with canadian submissions in the 2nd PdConvention, and with brazilian submissions in the 3rd PdConvention (as well as lack of canadian submissions in the 3rd PdConvention), but with the number of european submissions in the 2nd PdConvention, you'd think that the 4th one would have a lot more than 40 articles (I don't know about other categories).
Does anyone want to lookup stats about Pd Conventions as might have been posted on pd-list before, and then put those stats on puredata.info ? (or links to the appropriate posts)
Currently the three conventions appear as links in :
http://puredata.info/community/projects/
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
Hum...
The only thing that really matters is to know if Pd is going to win at the end. :-p And I can tell it to you now. We're gonna win !
Cool, isn't it ?
:-D
1010ove 0101ivier
2011/4/14 Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote:
Seems ok, imho its a very idiosyncratic conference.
Well, at the same time, you'd think that there would be more submissions, now that the pd-community has grown. But it's not like that.
Proximity still makes a big difference, as we have seen with canadian submissions in the 2nd PdConvention, and with brazilian submissions in the 3rd PdConvention (as well as lack of canadian submissions in the 3rd PdConvention), but with the number of european submissions in the 2nd PdConvention, you'd think that the 4th one would have a lot more than 40 articles (I don't know about other categories).
Does anyone want to lookup stats about Pd Conventions as might have been posted on pd-list before, and then put those stats on puredata.info ? (or links to the appropriate posts)
Currently the three conventions appear as links in :
http://puredata.info/community/projects/
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Olivier Baudu wrote:
The only thing that really matters is to know if Pd is going to win at the end. :-p
At the end of what ?
And I can tell it to you now. We're gonna win !
Win what ?
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
How to say ? :-/
2011/4/15 Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Olivier Baudu wrote:
The only thing that really matters is to know if Pd is going to win at the
end. :-p
At the end of what ?
The end of the competition... :-)
And I can tell it to you now. We're gonna win !
Win what ?
Not only the pleasure to be the first, but also to have beat the second. :-D ... ... ... Sorry, [list ], it's a personal-running-gagimmick I impose to my friends for years... And, maybe you don't know that, but you're a friend of mine, [list ]... I listen to you every day... :-) BTW, I hope you're [fine ( ^-^
01ivier
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Dear Mathieu,
I know you like precise information. Hence I'll give you the facts so you don't have to speculate about them: we received 42 Submissions, yours was #39 and you weren't the last one who submitted in time. Another respected community member from Poland submitted at exactly 24:00. Since we have a warm heart we did accept additional 3 submissions which didn't meet the deadline. Thus the last ID is #43.
(ID #1 was just a dummy, ID #37 was a workshop which we handle without review)
Greetings,
Max
Am 11.04.2011 um 00:39 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of April 24:00h (UTS +2)
reminder
BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. This should give you an idea of how many people submitted, though this may count some cancelled submissions, multiple submissions by same people, and it doesn't count anyone who submit after 24h00.
(I'm only talking about papers ; other submissions are handled separately)
The papers are only one part of PdCon. People who work in academia
are used to submitting papers, but Pd users are probably mostly not in
academia.
I was involved in DebConf10, and also it had not a lot of papers,
though it is much bigger and on its 12th year. We also had a rolling
acceptance policy, so people were continuing to submit until a month
or two after the deadline.
.hc
On Apr 14, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Max wrote:
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Dear Mathieu,
I know you like precise information. Hence I'll give you the facts
so you don't have to speculate about them: we received 42 Submissions, yours was #39 and you weren't the last
one who submitted in time. Another respected community member from
Poland submitted at exactly 24:00. Since we have a warm heart we did
accept additional 3 submissions which didn't meet the deadline. Thus
the last ID is #43.(ID #1 was just a dummy, ID #37 was a workshop which we handle
without review)Greetings,
Max
Am 11.04.2011 um 00:39 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of
April 24:00h (UTS +2)reminder
BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is
39. This should give you an idea of how many people submitted,
though this may count some cancelled submissions, multiple
submissions by same people, and it doesn't count anyone who submit
after 24h00.(I'm only talking about papers ; other submissions are handled
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On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 05:15:53PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
The papers are only one part of PdCon. People who work in academia are used to submitting papers, but Pd users are probably mostly not in
academia.
I should have submitted something about WebPd but the idea of writing a whole paper about it scared me off as I would feel much more productive spending that time writing code. I generally just make slides for a talk, and they don't have many words on them. Of course, I am not here asking for special treatment or anything, I realise this is the normal way of doing things in academia as Hans says, I just wanted to put out one data-point to agree with what Hans wrote above.
Cheers,
Chris.
Why not something like an informal talk in Berlin part? (Maybe should talk to João Pais or the other "PD Berliners" regarding that)
or even...
A workshop regarding webpd, where we all coded for you (muahahah) [1].
[1] I'd like that, i'm very (theoretical) supportive of webpd, although haven't coded anything yet.
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 05:15:53PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
The papers are only one part of PdCon. People who work in academia are used to submitting papers, but Pd users are probably mostly not in academia.
I should have submitted something about WebPd but the idea of writing a whole paper about it scared me off as I would feel much more productive spending that time writing code. I generally just make slides for a talk, and they don't have many words on them. Of course, I am not here asking for special treatment or anything, I realise this is the normal way of doing things in academia as Hans says, I just wanted to put out one data-point to agree with what Hans wrote above.
Cheers,
Chris.
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the current plan for the berlin part is more focussed in active sharing
and performance, than organized workshops. but, the place where we do the
meetings - NK - should be interested in a worskhop on that theme. If you
have some extra days to stay in berlin, that would be an opportunity to
put something on.
Why not something like an informal talk in Berlin part? (Maybe should
talk to João Pais or the other "PD Berliners" regarding that)or even...
A workshop regarding webpd, where we all coded for you (muahahah) [1].
[1] I'd like that, i'm very (theoretical) supportive of webpd, although haven't coded anything yet.
I can't code, but I can cook something :) Last Floss weekend I made some
portuguese desserts.
João
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Chris McCormick wrote:
I should have submitted something about WebPd but the idea of writing a whole paper about it scared me off as I would feel much more productive spending that time writing code. I generally just make slides for a talk, and they don't have many words on them.
First do a set of slides. Then reread it while adding some notes. The reread it while adding some notes. Then reread it while adding some notes. Eventually you may have something like two thousand words and not realise that you got that far.
That's not my «technique» though. I don't have the same problems, so, I don't have the same solutions.
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More statistics: from the 41 valid submissions the programming comittee accepted 30 based on the reviewers comments and suggestions. With 16 available slots of 30 minutes this unfortunately means that there will be parallel sessions for most of the paper presentations. Originally this wasn't what we wanted but after seeing so many great topics and papers we decided that this is the only solution. Even the papers we rejected had very interesting aspects and valuable content worth to share, but we simply couldn't fit everything and had to draw the line somewhere. The work of the reviewers helped us a lot in that process, Thank you very much, your commitment was valuable and appreciated. We'll try to group the presentations together in topics and announce the preliminary schedule tomorrow(-ish).
Max
Am 15.04.2011 um 23:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
The papers are only one part of PdCon. People who work in academia are used to submitting papers, but Pd users are probably mostly not in academia.
I was involved in DebConf10, and also it had not a lot of papers, though it is much bigger and on its 12th year. We also had a rolling acceptance policy, so people were continuing to submit until a month or two after the deadline.
.hc
On Apr 14, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Max wrote:
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Dear Mathieu,
I know you like precise information. Hence I'll give you the facts so you don't have to speculate about them: we received 42 Submissions, yours was #39 and you weren't the last one who submitted in time. Another respected community member from Poland submitted at exactly 24:00. Since we have a warm heart we did accept additional 3 submissions which didn't meet the deadline. Thus the last ID is #43.
(ID #1 was just a dummy, ID #37 was a workshop which we handle without review)
Greetings,
Max
Am 11.04.2011 um 00:39 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of April 24:00h (UTS +2)
reminder
BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. This should give you an idea of how many people submitted, though this may count some cancelled submissions, multiple submissions by same people, and it doesn't count anyone who submit after 24h00.
(I'm only talking about papers ; other submissions are handled separately)
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Also, kind of an odd question, but since I did not find any info on the subject I might as just well ask (risking to sound stupid):
- how much is the registration on the PdCon2011?
(I ask this since I found out that info regarding the 2007 edition: http://pure-data.artengine.ca/en/registration )
Best, Pedro
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Max abonnements@revolwear.com wrote:
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More statistics: from the 41 valid submissions the programming comittee accepted 30 based on the reviewers comments and suggestions. With 16 available slots of 30 minutes this unfortunately means that there will be parallel sessions for most of the paper presentations. Originally this wasn't what we wanted but after seeing so many great topics and papers we decided that this is the only solution. Even the papers we rejected had very interesting aspects and valuable content worth to share, but we simply couldn't fit everything and had to draw the line somewhere. The work of the reviewers helped us a lot in that process, Thank you very much, your commitment was valuable and appreciated. We'll try to group the presentations together in topics and announce the preliminary schedule tomorrow(-ish).
Max
Am 15.04.2011 um 23:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
The papers are only one part of PdCon. People who work in academia are used to submitting papers, but Pd users are probably mostly not in academia.
I was involved in DebConf10, and also it had not a lot of papers, though it is much bigger and on its 12th year. We also had a rolling acceptance policy, so people were continuing to submit until a month or two after the deadline.
.hc
On Apr 14, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Max wrote:
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Dear Mathieu,
I know you like precise information. Hence I'll give you the facts so you don't have to speculate about them: we received 42 Submissions, yours was #39 and you weren't the last one who submitted in time. Another respected community member from Poland submitted at exactly 24:00. Since we have a warm heart we did accept additional 3 submissions which didn't meet the deadline. Thus the last ID is #43.
(ID #1 was just a dummy, ID #37 was a workshop which we handle without review)
Greetings,
Max
Am 11.04.2011 um 00:39 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of April 24:00h (UTS +2)
reminder
BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. This should give you an idea of how many people submitted, though this may count some cancelled submissions, multiple submissions by same people, and it doesn't count anyone who submit after 24h00.
(I'm only talking about papers ; other submissions are handled separately)
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That's a very good question. We hope to keep it as low as 0,- but jet alone providing accommodation for everyone contributing will cost us 9000,- we are doing a lot of maths lately. Currently the plan is that we have a free early registration and a small fee for those who decide spontaneously. Don't ask me where the form for registration is.. It's not there yet but it will be announced here if we do it like that.
I hope this answers your question.
max
Am 16.05.2011 um 18:56 schrieb Pedro Lopes:
Also, kind of an odd question, but since I did not find any info on the subject I might as just well ask (risking to sound stupid):
- how much is the registration on the PdCon2011?
(I ask this since I found out that info regarding the 2007 edition: http://pure-data.artengine.ca/en/registration )
Best, Pedro
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Max abonnements@revolwear.com wrote:
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More statistics: from the 41 valid submissions the programming comittee accepted 30 based on the reviewers comments and suggestions. With 16 available slots of 30 minutes this unfortunately means that there will be parallel sessions for most of the paper presentations. Originally this wasn't what we wanted but after seeing so many great topics and papers we decided that this is the only solution. Even the papers we rejected had very interesting aspects and valuable content worth to share, but we simply couldn't fit everything and had to draw the line somewhere. The work of the reviewers helped us a lot in that process, Thank you very much, your commitment was valuable and appreciated. We'll try to group the presentations together in topics and announce the preliminary schedule tomorrow(-ish).
Max
Am 15.04.2011 um 23:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
The papers are only one part of PdCon. People who work in academia are used to submitting papers, but Pd users are probably mostly not in academia.
I was involved in DebConf10, and also it had not a lot of papers, though it is much bigger and on its 12th year. We also had a rolling acceptance policy, so people were continuing to submit until a month or two after the deadline.
.hc
On Apr 14, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Max wrote:
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Dear Mathieu,
I know you like precise information. Hence I'll give you the facts so you don't have to speculate about them: we received 42 Submissions, yours was #39 and you weren't the last one who submitted in time. Another respected community member from Poland submitted at exactly 24:00. Since we have a warm heart we did accept additional 3 submissions which didn't meet the deadline. Thus the last ID is #43.
(ID #1 was just a dummy, ID #37 was a workshop which we handle without review)
Greetings,
Max
Am 11.04.2011 um 00:39 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of April 24:00h (UTS +2)
reminder
BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. This should give you an idea of how many people submitted, though this may count some cancelled submissions, multiple submissions by same people, and it doesn't count anyone who submit after 24h00.
(I'm only talking about papers ; other submissions are handled separately)
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On Mon, 16 May 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote:
Also, kind of an odd question, but since I did not find any info on the subject I might as just well ask (risking to sound stupid):
- how much is the registration on the PdCon2011?
(I ask this since I found out that info regarding the 2007 edition: http://pure-data.artengine.ca/en/registration )
Note that in practice, the check for reduced registration was quite lax, and as a result, very few people took full registration.
I don't have figures of how many people paid full registration, how many people paid reduced registration, and how many people "volunteered" for 8 hours each instead. I know people who can answer those questions if it's good to know.
BTW, 8 hours of "volunteering" in exchange of 50 $ fee equivalent is quite below minimum wage, which was 8,00 $ back then, I think (it's 9,65 $ now).
BTW, 1 $ canadian was 0,69½ € back then, 0,72 € now.
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Hey Max When do we start reading them?
pp
On 4/14/11 6:26 AM, "Max" abonnements@revolwear.com wrote:
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Dear Mathieu,
I know you like precise information. Hence I'll give you the facts so you don't have to speculate about them: we received 42 Submissions, yours was #39 and you weren't the last one who submitted in time. Another respected community member from Poland submitted at exactly 24:00. Since we have a warm heart we did accept additional 3 submissions which didn't meet the deadline. Thus the last ID is #43.
(ID #1 was just a dummy, ID #37 was a workshop which we handle without review)
Greetings,
Max
Am 11.04.2011 um 00:39 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of April 24:00h (UTS +2)
reminder
BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. This should give you an idea of how many people submitted, though this may count some cancelled submissions, multiple submissions by same people, and it doesn't count anyone who submit after 24h00.
(I'm only talking about papers ; other submissions are handled separately)
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Review has already started!
Am 18.04.2011 um 03:25 schrieb Pagano, Patrick:
Hey Max When do we start reading them?
pp
On 4/14/11 6:26 AM, "Max" abonnements@revolwear.com wrote:
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Dear Mathieu,
I know you like precise information. Hence I'll give you the facts so you don't have to speculate about them: we received 42 Submissions, yours was #39 and you weren't the last one who submitted in time. Another respected community member from Poland submitted at exactly 24:00. Since we have a warm heart we did accept additional 3 submissions which didn't meet the deadline. Thus the last ID is #43.
(ID #1 was just a dummy, ID #37 was a workshop which we handle without review)
Greetings,
Max
Am 11.04.2011 um 00:39 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of April 24:00h (UTS +2)
reminder
BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. This should give you an idea of how many people submitted, though this may count some cancelled submissions, multiple submissions by same people, and it doesn't count anyone who submit after 24h00.
(I'm only talking about papers ; other submissions are handled separately)
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