I'm gathering information currently for a potential exhibition involving mobile sound devices for 2010. My criteria are as follows:
- Gathering and processing of environmental sounds
- Open source software and open and/or accessible hardware
- Doesn't make only techno music! ;-)
and optional:
- User's location and/or movement become processing criteria
- Ability to network with other devices to share sounds and information
The RJDJ project sounds like it fits the first and fourth, I don't know about the others. I agree with several of the posters on this list who were suspicious of a project using free software but geared only towards expensive hardware like iPhones. But I don't want to totally discredit the momentum that's gone into this project. So my questions are:
- Can RJDJ "scenes" run on other platforms (Palm, iPaq, Gumstix, Linux
iPod, whatever?) 2) Is anyone working on an RJDJ-like/compatible platform which is actually open and accessible?
I will drop by the Berlin RJDJ sprint with these kind of questions in mind in case anyone wants to discuss them in person.
best! Derek
Derek Holzer wrote:
hi Derek,
the long-term plan with RjDj is to take it on to other platforms, both open and closed. the iPhone was chosen as an initial platform for a number of reasons, one of the strongest being a built-in 12-million user market, its position as the strongest selling smartphone in the US at least, and a clearly defined, efficient, and effective application distribution system. but by no means is the system to be closed and restricted. most of the developers are as unhappy with Apple about their closed-ness as anyone else here might be, and the plan is certainly to take it to more open platforms.
what's more, it is possible for anyone with a non-jailbroken iPhone to install their own homebrew scenes onto the phone. due to Apple's draconian content controls and restrictions, at the moment it's not possible to directly transfer scenes from your computer to the phone, so you need to be able to host them on a website somewhere, but if this is done you can simply provide an rjdj:// url (eg rjdj://www.mysite.com/scenes/blahlbah.rj), and by browsing to this url in the iPhone's web browser you can install any scene you want.
- Can RJDJ "scenes" run on other platforms (Palm, iPaq, Gumstix, Linux
iPod, whatever?)
since an RjDj 'scene' is nothing more than a straightforward Pd patch (with a few abstractions and externals to handle playback control and basic audio analysis), and since the RjDj application itself is nothing more than pdlib with a scene-selection GUI, then yes, RjDj 'scenes' will run on any hardware that can run Pd.
- Is anyone working on an RJDJ-like/compatible platform which is
actually open and accessible?
at the moment, there is nothing that i know of. as i mentioned, though, the plan for RjDj is to port the application to other platforms, at which time the player code for these new platforms (especially for open platforms like the OpenMoko) will be released under the GPL. releasing the iPhone codebase under the GPL is also planned, but this step is still in the future.
I will drop by the Berlin RJDJ sprint with these kind of questions in mind in case anyone wants to discuss them in person.
please do, i'm sure Michael will be more than happy to talk about it.
cheers d
Hey,
I don't know if you have been following the Reware project, but that
is a core idea of it. Check out our first HOWTO for an intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMnIh2lWB6M
We got some Palms and iPaqs going, then there is the Nokia
Webtablets, iPods, and the BeagleBoard. Gumstix are also possible, I
have one, but I haven't had a chance to work on it yet. Our core
idea is to make a whole linux distro with Pd, Python, and Lua that
has nothing at all running, except your code. Something like Arduino
for hacking PDAs.
It is also possible to install Pd-anywhere packages on a number of
existing distros, like Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, etc.
.hc
On Dec 3, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Derek Holzer wrote:
I'm gathering information currently for a potential exhibition
involving mobile sound devices for 2010. My criteria are as follows:
- Gathering and processing of environmental sounds
- Open source software and open and/or accessible hardware
- Doesn't make only techno music! ;-)
and optional:
- User's location and/or movement become processing criteria
- Ability to network with other devices to share sounds and
information
The RJDJ project sounds like it fits the first and fourth, I don't
know about the others. I agree with several of the posters on this list who were suspicious of a project using free software but geared only
towards expensive hardware like iPhones. But I don't want to totally discredit the momentum that's gone into this project. So my questions are:
- Can RJDJ "scenes" run on other platforms (Palm, iPaq, Gumstix,
Linux iPod, whatever?) 2) Is anyone working on an RJDJ-like/compatible platform which is actually open and accessible?
I will drop by the Berlin RJDJ sprint with these kind of questions in mind in case anyone wants to discuss them in person.
best! Derek
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