Hey All,
I'm currently researching Laptop HW for pd/Gem studd and wanted to get the opinions of the developers/users. The machine should support all the future goodies of pd/Gem for the next couple years, including the eventual addition of pixel/vertex-shader stuff.
I've really got two choices, apple powerbook (15") and a PC laptop with a Nvidia card under linux. I do think the Radeon 9600 is certainly a better card (by far), but for linux I'm stuck with the Nvidia HW because they have the only fully-functional drivers.
I have not found much in PC land that is comparable to the powerbook (in terms of graphics performance (is Geforce FX 5600 Go the best?) and size to performance ratio.) A laptop that is easily traveled with a nice 15" display would be needed. Firewire would be nessesary (but with a chipset supported by linux dv1394). Anyone having any recomondations on such a PC laptop, preferably from someone who is running linux and Gem on it now.
There are pretty well only 2-3 main things keeping me away from the powerbook:
#1 The PD gui is terrible, the slowest and buggiest tcl/tk of all the platforms. :( #2 I would prefer to run a fully open-source OS...
#3 I am doing a lot of serial interface stuff with HW, and until we get a keyspan compatible comport object for PD on OSX there is not much I can do on that end.
The HW is really nice, and as far as I can tell the radeon 9600 is way ahead of the nvidia 5600 go. But I'm not sure if this is enough to offset the issues with the pd gui... (yes I could run GripD, but that is a seperate interfacing problem) I can't hardly use my Gem GOPs on OSX (512Ram, 733Mhz, Geforce2 MX), compared to great results on my old Duron 800 with the same graphics card at home...
So I'm really torn here, anyone have an suggestions?
Thanks Ben
a certain ben@ekran.org wrote:
I've really got two choices, apple powerbook (15") and a PC laptop with a Nvidia card under linux. I do think the Radeon 9600 is certainly a better card (by far), but for linux I'm stuck with the Nvidia HW because they have the only fully-functional drivers.
Aren't the drivers supplied by Ati fully functional?
Just a question out of curiosity.
m
You could install Debian-powerpc on a PowerBook. It takes some
patience to work out the details, but it works. I have both MacOS X
and Linux installed on mine. You can see me playing live using Linux
and Pd here:
http://works.at.or.at/stickmusic/tonic1.jpg
(Ok, there was no reason for that picture, but I was actually using Pd
on Linux/PowerBook there).
.hc
On Thursday, Oct 2, 2003, at 14:01 America/New_York, ben@ekran.org
wrote:
Hey All,
I'm currently researching Laptop HW for pd/Gem studd and wanted to get the opinions of the developers/users. The machine should support all
the future goodies of pd/Gem for the next couple years, including the eventual addition of pixel/vertex-shader stuff.I've really got two choices, apple powerbook (15") and a PC laptop with a Nvidia card under linux. I do think the Radeon 9600 is certainly a better card (by far), but for linux I'm stuck with the Nvidia HW
because they have the only fully-functional drivers.I have not found much in PC land that is comparable to the powerbook
(in terms of graphics performance (is Geforce FX 5600 Go the best?) and
size to performance ratio.) A laptop that is easily traveled with a nice 15" display would be needed. Firewire would be nessesary (but with a
chipset supported by linux dv1394). Anyone having any recomondations on such a PC laptop, preferably from someone who is running linux and Gem on it now.There are pretty well only 2-3 main things keeping me away from the powerbook:
#1 The PD gui is terrible, the slowest and buggiest tcl/tk of all the platforms. :( #2 I would prefer to run a fully open-source OS...
#3 I am doing a lot of serial interface stuff with HW, and until we get a keyspan compatible comport object for PD on OSX there is not much I can do on that end.
The HW is really nice, and as far as I can tell the radeon 9600 is way ahead of the nvidia 5600 go. But I'm not sure if this is enough to offset the issues with the pd gui... (yes I could run GripD, but that
is a seperate interfacing problem) I can't hardly use my Gem GOPs on OSX (512Ram, 733Mhz, Geforce2 MX), compared to great results on my old
Duron 800 with the same graphics card at home...So I'm really torn here, anyone have an suggestions?
Thanks Ben
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