ola,
mp3live~ has been thought for sending mp3 files over a lan, not the internet.
for sending a mp3 stream through the internet, use mp3cast~ or oggcast~ ( better ), connected to an icecast server..
ah, of course you need an icecast server...
and why don't you try sahabuntu? it has all tools to stream directly, sound or video ( ogg/theora format )..
http://gollum.artefacte.org/sahabuntu-7.04.11-i386.iso
'i am using windows' is not a terminal statement, only a PITA.
from montreal, back from camping, sa'ha! sevy
mami music wrote:
Hi i´m getting this error stream connected. connection lost (too little input) stream connected. connection lost (too little input) stream connected. connection lost (too little input) stream connected. connection lost (too little input)
on the pd window of the remote computer when sending a stream over the
internet using the mp3streamin~ object. It actually reproduces the sound but in an intermitent way, with silences.
Is it problem of the network? any clues on how can i solve this and have a decent smooth stream? maby using other objects?
ah, im working on windows can there be any incompatibility issue?
thanks
daniel
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I tried oggcast~ and mp3cast~ after getting frustrated with mp3live~(which is designet for LAN use as a see now), but latencies with this system(cast streaming) is HUGE. A minimum of 8-10 seconds and it goes up to 15-20 seconds. I've done everything to minimize the buffers but no joy...
What would one need to do to get low latencies(1-2 seconds max) with audio streaming? (sending control values to identical patches is not an option for me, I need to stream audio)
Thanks Batuhan
ydegoyon@free.fr wrote:
ola,
mp3live~ has been thought for sending mp3 files over a lan, not the internet.
for sending a mp3 stream through the internet, use mp3cast~ or oggcast~ ( better ), connected to an icecast server..
ah, of course you need an icecast server...
and why don't you try sahabuntu? it has all tools to stream directly, sound or video ( ogg/theora format )..
http://gollum.artefacte.org/sahabuntu-7.04.11-i386.iso
'i am using windows' is not a terminal statement, only a PITA.
from montreal, back from camping, sa'ha! sevy
mami music wrote:
Hi i´m getting this error stream connected. connection lost (too little input) stream connected. connection lost (too little input) stream connected. connection lost (too little input) stream connected. connection lost (too little input)
on the pd window of the remote computer when sending a stream over the
internet using the mp3streamin~ object. It actually reproduces the sound but in an intermitent way, with silences.
Is it problem of the network? any clues on how can i solve this and have a decent smooth stream? maby using other objects?
ah, im working on windows can there be any incompatibility issue?
thanks
daniel
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hallo IVES thanks for your fast and enlightening response. im downloading right now the sahabuntu, thakns for the advise. Ill be reviewing the tools and meanwhile trying to turn my PITA windows machine into an icecast server.
maby BATUHAN can be of some help in pinpointing a nice inf on personal icecast.
thanks guys
see ya
2007/9/4, Batuhan Bozkurt batuhan@batuhanbozkurt.com:
I tried oggcast~ and mp3cast~ after getting frustrated with mp3live~(which is designet for LAN use as a see now), but latencies with this system(cast streaming) is HUGE. A minimum of 8-10 seconds and it goes up to 15-20 seconds. I've done everything to minimize the buffers but no joy...
What would one need to do to get low latencies(1-2 seconds max) with audio streaming? (sending control values to identical patches is not an option for me, I need to stream audio)
Thanks Batuhan
ydegoyon@free.fr wrote:
ola,
mp3live~ has been thought for sending mp3 files over a lan, not the internet.
for sending a mp3 stream through the internet, use mp3cast~ or oggcast~ ( better ), connected to an icecast server..
ah, of course you need an icecast server...
and why don't you try sahabuntu? it has all tools to stream directly, sound or video ( ogg/theora format )..
http://gollum.artefacte.org/sahabuntu-7.04.11-i386.iso
'i am using windows' is not a terminal statement, only a PITA.
from montreal, back from camping, sa'ha! sevy
mami music wrote:
Hi i´m getting this error stream connected. connection lost (too little input) stream connected. connection lost (too little input) stream connected. connection lost (too little input) stream connected. connection lost (too little input)
on the pd window of the remote computer when sending a stream over
the
internet using the mp3streamin~ object. It actually reproduces the sound
but in
an intermitent way, with silences.
Is it problem of the network? any clues on how can i solve this and have a decent smooth stream? maby using other objects?
ah, im working on windows can there be any incompatibility issue?
thanks
daniel
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On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 18:21 +0300, Batuhan Bozkurt wrote:
(sending control values to identical patches is not an option for me, I need to stream audio)
why? are you using live input? in any other case, you might want to use netpd [1] for your purpose. it is actually quite easy to use/write your patch to be used in it. though, i would assist you in the beginning, if you want.
roman
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Thanks Roman, I know about netpd and thanks for offering to give a hand. Yes we use live audio and we need audio streaming. I think technically on stable internet connections, technically low(2-3 seconds) latencies should not be an issue(occasional dropouts are welcome of course, this is for rehersing with my bandmate or friends). But icecast and mp3cast servers are buffering way too much whatever I do, and add that to the playbackbuffer on the target system... It makes a huuge latency...
Any clues on overcoming this thing?
Oh and I can help anyone trying to build an ogg-mp3cast server but if latency is an issue, it's better to forget about it. Other than that, I can help.
Batuhan
Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 18:21 +0300, Batuhan Bozkurt wrote:
(sending control values to identical patches is not an option for me, I need to stream audio)
why? are you using live input? in any other case, you might want to use netpd [1] for your purpose. it is actually quite easy to use/write your patch to be used in it. though, i would assist you in the beginning, if you want.
roman
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thanks batuhan well latency is not an issue at this point. I would be glad if you could help me out in setting the ogg-icecast server.
im all ears
thanks
daniel
2007/9/4, Batuhan Bozkurt batuhan@batuhanbozkurt.com:
Thanks Roman, I know about netpd and thanks for offering to give a hand. Yes we use live audio and we need audio streaming. I think technically on stable internet connections, technically low(2-3 seconds) latencies should not be an issue(occasional dropouts are welcome of course, this is for rehersing with my bandmate or friends). But icecast and mp3cast servers are buffering way too much whatever I do, and add that to the playbackbuffer on the target system... It makes a huuge latency...
Any clues on overcoming this thing?
Oh and I can help anyone trying to build an ogg-mp3cast server but if latency is an issue, it's better to forget about it. Other than that, I can help.
Batuhan
Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 18:21 +0300, Batuhan Bozkurt wrote:
(sending control values to identical patches is not an option for me, I need to stream audio)
why? are you using live input? in any other case, you might want to use netpd [1] for your purpose. it is actually quite easy to use/write your patch to be used in it. though, i would assist you in the beginning, if you want.
roman
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mami music wrote:
thanks batuhan well latency is not an issue at this point. I would be glad if you could help me out in setting the ogg-icecast server.
im all ears
thanks
daniel
Daniel, sorry for the late response. I've been trying to get it to run again so I can show you how to do it step by step but somehow i can't get it to work. I've lost my notes about running that thing. BTW I'm running linux and the main software I used for streaming was something called "Internet DJ console" client that was connecting to a running icecast server running in localhost, and that was all there is to it. Icecast needs a config file which I wrote by hand(and it is lost) and I can't get it to work right now. I'll keep trying.
What is your OS?
My os is windows. i´ve been looking about icecast and understood how it works. im conncetig to an external icecast seerver using oddcast/winamp and it works ok.
but have not been able to connect to the icecast server (nor for sending the stream or for listening any stream) using the pd objects. can it be possisble that being behind a proxy server is dissabling the conection from the icecast server to the PD object? thats a question for IVES too. if that i so is there a way of overcomming the proxyserver so i can make it work ok?
thanks guys!!!
2007/9/9, Batuhan Bozkurt batuhan@batuhanbozkurt.com:
mami music wrote:
thanks batuhan well latency is not an issue at this point. I would be glad if you could help me out in setting the ogg-icecast server.
im all ears
thanks
daniel
Daniel, sorry for the late response. I've been trying to get it to run again so I can show you how to do it step by step but somehow i can't get it to work. I've lost my notes about running that thing. BTW I'm running linux and the main software I used for streaming was something called "Internet DJ console" client that was connecting to a running icecast server running in localhost, and that was all there is to it. Icecast needs a config file which I wrote by hand(and it is lost) and I can't get it to work right now. I'll keep trying.
What is your OS?
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On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 18:21 +0300, Batuhan Bozkurt wrote:
What would one need to do to get low latencies(1-2 seconds max) with audio streaming? (sending control values to identical patches is not an option for me, I need to stream audio)
blame me for this suggestion, but why not using skype or any other voip software? i managed to run skype over jack with the jackplugin from alsa. the quality isn't exhilarating, though. maybe there is another voip software, that could be tweaked more freely than skype?
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