Hi, you may already know, but for the sake of information.
I was surfing for pd papers and found this http://pdcon.org/ for the conference in Brazil, but it's offline. There's a fancy, spammy pink page instead.
Sadly, http://pdcon.org/ is linked from puredata.info and from other sites too (including http://umlaeute.mur.at/Members/zmoelnig/projects/pdgst/pdcon09/). Couldn't check other sources.
M
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
I was surfing for pd papers and found this http://pdcon.org/%C2%A0for the conference in Brazil, but it's offline. There's a fancy, spammy pink page instead.
Same thing happened to the 2ième congrès in Montréal, and I don't remember how I found the former IP address of pure-data.ca, but I did find it after about one hour of searching.
After that, I edited my /etc/hosts file in order to fake the old DNS (that part is really easy). I couldn't just type the IP address in the browser, because for that IP addresses there were many domains and the webserver had to know that I wanted pure-data.ca.
Then I made an automated copy of much of the site's content, and put it at http://pure-data.artengine.ca/ , but only as static, because I didn't have FTP access... note that I did that without any help from anyone, which means that it might be possible for someone to make a backup of much of the 3rd convention's site without any help from anyone either (?).
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On 2011-07-09 18:29, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
I was surfing for pd papers and found this http://pdcon.org/ for the conference in Brazil, but it's offline. There's a fancy, spammy pink page instead.
Same thing happened to the 2ième congrès in Montréal, and I don't remember how I found the former IP address of pure-data.ca, but I did find it after about one hour of searching.
i always suggested to use DNS names which are owned by the "community" as "fallbacks", so the pdcon organizers don't have to pay forever.
e.g. "we" (technically the "iem", administered by "me", dedicated to the "pd community"), can offer any subdomain of "puredata.info". for the conventions, there have always been DNS entries of the form conventionXY.puredata.info (with XY being the year).
unfortunately it seems that mostly the offer is not understood/deemed unimportant/forgotten/impossible to implement with the technical skills available; which results in:
http://convention04.puredata.info/ (Graz) hosted at puredata.info, still working :-)
http://convention07.puredata.info/ (Montreal) is an alias for art-engine.ca, which still runs, but unfortunately ceased to do anything meaningful with requests for this side, so we only get an "intentionally left blank" page
http://convention09.puredata.info/ (Sao Paolo) is a redirection to pdcon.org (since i couldn't persuade anybody to setup a VirtualHost configuration on their webserver that would accept requests for this address); since pdcon.org is now expired and now offers nonsense, the convention09... url does the same.
http://convention11.puredata.info/ (Weimar) is a redirection to the uni-weimar server; i fear that it will face a similar fate than convention09 (that is the site will be turned off after a while; i think it's rather unlikely that we will see scantily dressed bodies on the uni-weimar website anytime soon)
http://convention??.puredata.info/ (who knows)
personally i find the puredata.info URL easier to remember (though longer to type) than most other URLs, but then i am involved a lot with puredata.info...
as for sustainability of the old websites, i _can_ offer hosting static exports of the websites once the events are done (and make them accessible under the above links)
anybody interested please understand, that this offer can only be made - for _static_ sites (self contained HTML-exports! absolutely no database backends! no PHP! everything running on Apache. only transient ssh access to the host until things are running)
- for small sites (anything less than 100MB or so)
a preferred way (ressources permitting) would be to make a http://convention??.puredata.info a permanent virtual host on _your_ infrastructure)
fgmasdr IOhannes
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
http://convention07.puredata.info/ (Montreal) is an alias for art-engine.ca, which still runs, but unfortunately ceased to do anything meaningful with requests for this side, so we only get an "intentionally left blank" page
What are you talking about ?
It should get you to a directory listing in which you have «fr» for the french version and «en» for the english version.
(as well as 3 other folders you shouldn't go into directly)
It would be nicer if it only said «french» and «english» at the beginning and people would pick one, but if you get a blank page instead, there's a much bigger problem to be dealt with beforehand !
http://convention09.puredata.info/ (Sao Paolo) is a redirection to pdcon.org (since i couldn't persuade anybody to setup a VirtualHost configuration on their webserver that would accept requests for this address); since pdcon.org is now expired and now offers nonsense, the convention09... url does the same.
do you have the IP address of the former pdcon.org ?
as for sustainability of the old websites, i _can_ offer hosting static exports of the websites once the events are done (and make them accessible under the above links) anybody interested please understand, that this offer can only be made - for _static_ sites (self contained HTML-exports! absolutely no database backends! no PHP! everything running on Apache. only transient ssh access to the host until things are running) - - for small sites (anything less than 100MB or so)
Artengine does that too (obviously, as pure-data.artengine.ca alias convention09.puredata.info) but it could also happen for a pd convention site much bigger than 100 MB.
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
http://convention07.puredata.info/ (Montreal) is an alias for art-engine.ca, which still runs, but unfortunately ceased to do anything meaningful with requests for this side, so we only get an "intentionally left blank" page
What are you talking about ?
So in the end it was just a config on Johannes' computer, just to say that it hasn't stopped working.
It should get you to a directory listing in which you have «fr» for the french version and «en» for the english version.
(as well as 3 other folders you shouldn't go into directly)
It would be nicer if it only said «french» and «english» at the beginning and people would pick one, but if you get a blank page instead, there's a much bigger problem to be dealt with beforehand !
I added redirection by preferred language, thanks to a guy on #dataflow whom I don't know.
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