How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac for 0.43 ? I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the readme for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems to be no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I could find).
I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found was to delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. Is there a more elegant way to do this?
I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even though every single one of them runs all software on their machine in English only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is that the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to use their software in? Just my two cents.
Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If not, its a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is configured in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess people buy systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't seem to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and your global locale by running this in the Terminal:
defaults read com.apple.dock loc defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale
The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this:
defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US
I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason. As far as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International
Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail to respect the user setting?
.hc
On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote:
How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac for 0.43 ? I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the readme for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems to be no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I could find).
I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found was to delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. Is there a more elegant way to do this?
I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even though every single one of them runs all software on their machine in English only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is that the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to use their software in? Just my two cents.
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How do I switch it back to English? I appreciate the spanish version but English looks much cooler!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escrit:
Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If not, its a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is configured in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess people buy systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't seem to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and your global locale by running this in the Terminal:
defaults read com.apple.dock loc defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale
The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this:
defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US
I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason. As far as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International
Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail to respect the user setting?
.hc
On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote:
How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac for
0.43
? I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the
readme
for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems to
be
no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I could find).
I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found was to delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. Is there a more elegant way to do this?
I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even though every single one of them runs all software on their machine in English only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is that the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to use their software in? Just my two cents.
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Sorry, you've just answered that! Thanx!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Òscar Martínez Carmona ha escrit:
How do I switch it back to English? I appreciate the spanish version but English looks much cooler!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escrit:
Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If not, its a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is configured in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess people buy systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't seem to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and your global locale by running this in the Terminal:
defaults read com.apple.dock loc defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale
The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this:
defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US
I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason. As far as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International
Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail to respect the user setting?
.hc
On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote:
How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac for
0.43
? I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the
readme
for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems to
be
no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I
could
find).
I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found was to delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. Is there a more elegant way to do this?
I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even though every single one of them runs all software on their machine in English only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is
that
the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to
use
their software in? Just my two cents.
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You can also delete the files within the po folder at the installation folder. Then you will have (only) english menus.
I have a related question. I am running a beginners course on Pd (distance course) and in the group there are at least 3 or 4 different languages. Added to that is also that some people are in different countries. So for the students in Sweden (where I am based) most of them get the swedish language selected on install, but by different reasons would like to have english och portuguese. They´re also on different platforms.
My question is this... can it be possible to independently select a preferred language regardless what the OS is suggesting and force another language to be showed?
/Björn Eriksson
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamps23@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, you've just answered that! Thanx!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Òscar Martínez Carmona ha escrit:
How do I switch it back to English? I appreciate the spanish version but English looks much cooler!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escrit:
Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If not, its a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is configured in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess people buy systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't seem to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and your global locale by running this in the Terminal:
defaults read com.apple.dock loc defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale
The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this:
defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US
I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason. As far as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International
Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail to respect the user setting?
.hc
On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote:
How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac for 0.43 ? I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the readme for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems to be no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I could find).
I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found was to delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. Is there a more elegant way to do this?
I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even though every single one of them runs all software on their machine in English only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is that the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to use their software in? Just my two cents.
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Hans-Christoph Steiner made this video explaining how to open Pd from the command line with the preferred language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLkSmIAleMc Although if you open it in English for example and then open a patch you made in another language it will most likely switch to that language, as far as my experience tells me..
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Björn Eriksson miulew@gmail.com wrote:
You can also delete the files within the po folder at the installation folder. Then you will have (only) english menus.
I have a related question. I am running a beginners course on Pd (distance course) and in the group there are at least 3 or 4 different languages. Added to that is also that some people are in different countries. So for the students in Sweden (where I am based) most of them get the swedish language selected on install, but by different reasons would like to have english och portuguese. They´re also on different platforms.
My question is this... can it be possible to independently select a preferred language regardless what the OS is suggesting and force another language to be showed?
/Björn Eriksson
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamps23@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, you've just answered that! Thanx!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Òscar Martínez Carmona ha escrit:
How do I switch it back to English? I appreciate the spanish version but English looks much cooler!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escrit:
Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If
not,
its a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is configured in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess
people
buy systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't seem to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and
your
global locale by running this in the Terminal:
defaults read com.apple.dock loc defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale
The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this:
defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US
I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason. As far as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International
Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail to respect the user setting?
.hc
On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote:
How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac
for
0.43 ? I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the readme for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems
to
be no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I could find).
I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found was
to
delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. Is there a more elegant way to do this?
I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even
though
every single one of them runs all software on their machine in
English
only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is that the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to use their software in? Just my two cents.
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You can also do that LANG=pt trick on Windows and Mac OS X, but you have to use the full path to pd/bin/pd instead of just 'pd-extended'.
If someone has written in a patch in their own language, the patch will always be in that language. There is currently no way to have patches with translations of the text. Its something I think we should add for tutorials and reference docs.
.hc
On 02/16/2013 01:37 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner made this video explaining how to open Pd from the command line with the preferred language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLkSmIAleMc Although if you open it in English for example and then open a patch you made in another language it will most likely switch to that language, as far as my experience tells me..
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Björn Eriksson miulew@gmail.com wrote:
You can also delete the files within the po folder at the installation folder. Then you will have (only) english menus.
I have a related question. I am running a beginners course on Pd (distance course) and in the group there are at least 3 or 4 different languages. Added to that is also that some people are in different countries. So for the students in Sweden (where I am based) most of them get the swedish language selected on install, but by different reasons would like to have english och portuguese. They´re also on different platforms.
My question is this... can it be possible to independently select a preferred language regardless what the OS is suggesting and force another language to be showed?
/Björn Eriksson
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamps23@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, you've just answered that! Thanx!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Òscar Martínez Carmona ha escrit:
How do I switch it back to English? I appreciate the spanish version but English looks much cooler!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escrit:
Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If
not,
its a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is configured in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess
people
buy systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't seem to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and
your
global locale by running this in the Terminal:
defaults read com.apple.dock loc defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale
The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this:
defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US
I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason. As far as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International
Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail to respect the user setting?
.hc
On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote:
How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac
for
0.43 ? I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the readme for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems
to
be no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I could find).
I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found was
to
delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. Is there a more elegant way to do this?
I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even
though
every single one of them runs all software on their machine in
English
only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is that the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to use their software in? Just my two cents.
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Thank you for this news!! The youtube was excellent in explaining some things aswell! I should know better but I am not using the command line so much in the win7 machine i am on, should i write "LANG=pt c:/program/pd/pd-extended" The folder pd is installed at is program/pd but seems i have some problems with the syntax... should it be backslashes?
All the best, /björn
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
You can also do that LANG=pt trick on Windows and Mac OS X, but you have to use the full path to pd/bin/pd instead of just 'pd-extended'.
If someone has written in a patch in their own language, the patch will always be in that language. There is currently no way to have patches with translations of the text. Its something I think we should add for tutorials and reference docs.
.hc
On 02/16/2013 01:37 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner made this video explaining how to open Pd from the command line with the preferred language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLkSmIAleMc Although if you open it in English for example and then open a patch you made in another language it will most likely switch to that language, as far as my experience tells me..
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Björn Eriksson miulew@gmail.com wrote:
You can also delete the files within the po folder at the installation folder. Then you will have (only) english menus.
I have a related question. I am running a beginners course on Pd (distance course) and in the group there are at least 3 or 4 different languages. Added to that is also that some people are in different countries. So for the students in Sweden (where I am based) most of them get the swedish language selected on install, but by different reasons would like to have english och portuguese. They´re also on different platforms.
My question is this... can it be possible to independently select a preferred language regardless what the OS is suggesting and force another language to be showed?
/Björn Eriksson
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamps23@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, you've just answered that! Thanx!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Òscar Martínez Carmona ha escrit:
How do I switch it back to English? I appreciate the spanish version but English looks much cooler!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escrit:
Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If
not,
its a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is configured in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess
people
buy systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't seem to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and
your
global locale by running this in the Terminal:
defaults read com.apple.dock loc defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale
The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this:
defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US
I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason. As far as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International
Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail to respect the user setting?
.hc
On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote: > How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac
for
> 0.43 > ? > I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the > readme > for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems
to
> be > no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I > could > find). > > I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found was
to
> delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. > Is there a more elegant way to do this? > > I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that > "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native > language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines > and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even
though
> every single one of them runs all software on their machine in
English
> only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is > that > the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to > use > their software in? > Just my two cents. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >
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When I say that it switches back to that language I mean Pd itself, not just comments, but the menus and everything..
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Björn Eriksson miulew@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for this news!! The youtube was excellent in explaining some things aswell! I should know better but I am not using the command line so much in the win7 machine i am on, should i write "LANG=pt c:/program/pd/pd-extended" The folder pd is installed at is program/pd but seems i have some problems with the syntax... should it be backslashes?
All the best, /björn
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
You can also do that LANG=pt trick on Windows and Mac OS X, but you have
to
use the full path to pd/bin/pd instead of just 'pd-extended'.
If someone has written in a patch in their own language, the patch will
always
be in that language. There is currently no way to have patches with translations of the text. Its something I think we should add for
tutorials
and reference docs.
.hc
On 02/16/2013 01:37 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner made this video explaining how to open Pd from
the
command line with the preferred language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLkSmIAleMc Although if you open it in English for example and then open a patch you made in another language it will most likely switch to that language, as far as my experience tells me..
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Björn Eriksson miulew@gmail.com
wrote:
You can also delete the files within the po folder at the installation folder. Then you will have (only) english menus.
I have a related question. I am running a beginners course on Pd (distance course) and in the group there are at least 3 or 4 different languages. Added to that is also that some people are in different countries. So for the students in Sweden (where I am based) most of them get the swedish language selected on install, but by different reasons would like to have english och portuguese. They´re also on different platforms.
My question is this... can it be possible to independently select a preferred language regardless what the OS is suggesting and force another language to be showed?
/Björn Eriksson
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamps23@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, you've just answered that! Thanx!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Òscar Martínez Carmona ha escrit:
How do I switch it back to English? I appreciate the spanish version but English looks much cooler!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escrit: > > > Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If
not,
> its > a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is > configured > in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess
people
> buy > systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock
doesn't
> seem > to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and
your
> global locale by running this in the Terminal: > > defaults read com.apple.dock loc > defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale > > The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like
this:
> > defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US > > I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar
reason.
> As far > as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value: > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International > > Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail
to
> respect > the user setting? > > .hc > > On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote: >> How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac
for
>> 0.43 >> ? >> I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the >> readme >> for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also
seems
to
>> be >> no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I >> could >> find). >> >> I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found was
to
>> delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. >> Is there a more elegant way to do this? >> >> I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that >> "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their
native
>> language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines >> and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even
though
>> every single one of them runs all software on their machine in
English
>> only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language
is
>> that >> the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want
to
>> use >> their software in? >> Just my two cents. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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If you are running the command in the cmd.exe shell, it'll be something like this:
LANG=pt "C:\Program Files\pd\bin\pd" or LANG=pt "%ProgramFiles%\pd\bin\pd"
From Cygwin or MinGW, it'll be with forward slashes (/)
.hc
On 02/16/2013 02:28 PM, Björn Eriksson wrote:
Thank you for this news!! The youtube was excellent in explaining some things aswell! I should know better but I am not using the command line so much in the win7 machine i am on, should i write "LANG=pt c:/program/pd/pd-extended" The folder pd is installed at is program/pd but seems i have some problems with the syntax... should it be backslashes?
All the best, /björn
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
You can also do that LANG=pt trick on Windows and Mac OS X, but you have to use the full path to pd/bin/pd instead of just 'pd-extended'.
If someone has written in a patch in their own language, the patch will always be in that language. There is currently no way to have patches with translations of the text. Its something I think we should add for tutorials and reference docs.
.hc
On 02/16/2013 01:37 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner made this video explaining how to open Pd from the command line with the preferred language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLkSmIAleMc Although if you open it in English for example and then open a patch you made in another language it will most likely switch to that language, as far as my experience tells me..
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Björn Eriksson miulew@gmail.com wrote:
You can also delete the files within the po folder at the installation folder. Then you will have (only) english menus.
I have a related question. I am running a beginners course on Pd (distance course) and in the group there are at least 3 or 4 different languages. Added to that is also that some people are in different countries. So for the students in Sweden (where I am based) most of them get the swedish language selected on install, but by different reasons would like to have english och portuguese. They´re also on different platforms.
My question is this... can it be possible to independently select a preferred language regardless what the OS is suggesting and force another language to be showed?
/Björn Eriksson
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamps23@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, you've just answered that! Thanx!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Òscar Martínez Carmona ha escrit:
How do I switch it back to English? I appreciate the spanish version but English looks much cooler!
El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escrit: > > > Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If
not,
> its > a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is > configured > in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess
people
> buy > systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't > seem > to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and
your
> global locale by running this in the Terminal: > > defaults read com.apple.dock loc > defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale > > The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this: > > defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US > > I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason. > As far > as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value: > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International > > Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail to > respect > the user setting? > > .hc > > On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote: >> How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac
for
>> 0.43 >> ? >> I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the >> readme >> for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems
to
>> be >> no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I >> could >> find). >> >> I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found was
to
>> delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. >> Is there a more elegant way to do this? >> >> I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that >> "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native >> language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines >> and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even
though
>> every single one of them runs all software on their machine in
English
>> only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is >> that >> the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to >> use >> their software in? >> Just my two cents. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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