Hallo again !

I added now quite some projects from last year to the WIKI page: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 Please look through them and correct my bad english and/or add additional resources and ideas !

@Hans: I added you to some projects as mentor, I hope you don't mind ;)

@IOhannes: same for you ;) - but you can of course join more projects (now I added you only to the gem multiwindow project, because here you are the only possible author)

To all other mentors: please add you to the wiki and also add projects !

Thanks, LG Georg

Georg Holzmann schrieb:

Hallo!

I started to put ideas together at the following WIKI page: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 If you are interested joining one project as a mentor, please just add your name in the list of possible mentors ...

Please also add your projects using the following template: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/ProjectTemplate (and look at the description of my already added projects) It should be as clear as possible for students how to start, where are the resources and etc.

There are also still a lot of old projects from last year here: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas which should be copied (and polished) to the new WIKI page - so some help is really needed !

Thanks for any contribution, LG Georg

Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:

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Hey all,

The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application
is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you
just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll
choose projects and who will mentor them. You will then work with a
student, either locally or remotely.

Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student
anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored
projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. If
you are a student, then you should apply as a student to get funded.
Mentors get $500 and students get $4500 for working on something Pd
related.

.hc

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Hallo!

i added my name to two existing projects matching my competences. Just in case Georg is too busy with all the other ones he is part of.

Yes of course, feel free to add you to the projects !

I think we should have at least two mentors for each project, at least for the application now.

LG Georg

On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote:

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

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The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application
is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you
just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll
choose projects and who will mentor them.

...

Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student
anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored
projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students.

Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys?

add your names, hurry! :)

yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for me to take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c coding. from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which seems to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor. does it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project?

roman

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On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote:

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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

...

The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point,
you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in,
we'll choose projects and who will mentor them.

...

Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not
student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students.

Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys?

add your names, hurry! :)

yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for
me to take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c
coding. from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which
seems to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor.
does it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project?

You could also create a new project based on something like creating
libraries out of all that useful code in netpd. Basically, think of
something that you would like implemented in Pd that you could mentor.

.hc

roman

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the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself
of it. - Thomas Jefferson

hi Kyle

i love the idea of a Classic Unit Library (CUL?) BBB - Beginners Building Blocks WSP - (Where to Start with Pd) WSP - warm swimming pool :)

for me the first step would be to write some specs:

• coding style guide (who did it? luke?), license, naming convention,

howto contribute and also analyze existing libs: pdmtl, rjlib maybe you could even just build on them?

i'd like to see the WSP Lib:

• bsd
• flat
• super simple black&white interfaces
• as pure as possible
• a minimum of possible dependencies
• not gopish ?
• howto contribute?
• with self explaining naming?

i'm just about to upload my zipped netpd directory. http://netpd.org/eni/downloads/?C=M;O=D (8.9MB because there are some samples)

eni

Kyle Klipowicz wrote:

How about this project: Beginners Building Blocks.

Right now, If I want to even make a simple sine oscillator synth with an ADSR envelope on it, it's not very easy to do out of the box. What if there were some entry-level abstractions in a very OBVIOUS location that people could instantly piece together some classic Unit Generators. Important for these would be the ability to copy/paste items from a main page of abstractions. Also, they should have a simple GUI interface, and possibly be set up automatically to use SSAD.

I'm thinking stuff like:

-basic envelope generators -basic oscillators (bandlimited ones would be nice): sine, square, triangle, sawtooth -basic i/o that is more intuitive to newbies -basic sample players (one shot, looping, pitch shifting, multi-sample a la fluidsynth) -basic MIDI controller mapping tools (so people could just twist a knob to assign a parameter) -basic step, piano roll, &c sequencers -basic pitch/rhythm analysis (wrappers for sigmund~, fiddle~, and bonk~) -basic modular counters -an extensive collection of examples using these objects, documenting parameters, as well as ways to connect and/or modify and save new versions of objects using SSAD -video stuff would also be great, something akin to a freshened up PixelTango.

Anyway, I just thought these things would be really nice to have in an accessible place in Pd-extended. Because right now whenever I just want to make something very simple, i end up having to click a mouse about 200 times which is annoying and makes me worried about RTS!

Pd and Pd-extended are so difficult to navigate for newbies. There need to be more "pick up and go" audio tools. I'm thinking of how Reaktor and Max/MSP are so easy to dive into. Pd is a lot like a cold cold ocean whereas the other two are nice warm swimming pools. Pd is deeper and more exciting by far, but you can get swept away in an undertow never to return!

This project could be accomplished by merging elements from NetPd, Pdmtl, and various slick patches made by the resident list geniuses. (Another thing about NetPd if Roman and Eni are listening: can you make a tar.gz or zip download of ALL current NetPd patches? I hate having to download 30+ items one at a time. RTS fears again!)

So there's my way more than 2 cents. Take what you will from it.

~Kyle

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:

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On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

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On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote:

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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

...

The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students.

Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys?

add your names, hurry! :)

yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for me to take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c coding. from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which seems to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor. does it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project?

You could also create a new project based on something like creating libraries out of all that useful code in netpd. Basically, think of something that you would like implemented in Pd that you could mentor.

.hc

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roman

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Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote:

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• with self explaining naming?

The problem with that is that long names still don't say how it works, and as people learn how it works, they don't need long names anymore, and it gets in the way a bit. What you need is not long names, it's a system so that mouseover would show the descriptions that you'd otherwise look up in help-intro.pd, and that are often missing for externals.

wasn't that tooltip feature implement in desiredata? maybe one could port this as a own GSoC project to puredata.

i don't think names have to be fully self explaining, but at least that you get the clue of what the abstraction might do. rjlib and pdmtl seems pretty nice.

Hallo, Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote:

How about this project: Beginners Building Blocks.

A lot of the goals you describe overlap with goals of the RjDj library, that the RjDj team (like Gunter Geiger, Amaury Hazan, Paul Brossier, myself and others) is working on. It's generally sssad-enabled and pure vanilla (even omitting expr). Some parts are specific to the targetted platform (mobile devices like iPod Touch and iPhone), so e.g. the touch screen interfacing is useless outside of that.

Ciao

Frank Barknecht Do You RjDj.me? _ ______footils.org__

Sorry for the silence, I am quite busy at the moment, but to explain the situation viz GSoC mentoring, Google unilaterally and without warning disabled my account.

Attempts to contact Google to remedy this result in a cul-de-sac web form that refuses to accept the email I registered with. I would very much like to offer my help to mentor students on Pd projects, but I don't have time to bang my head against a wall of listless corporate ambivalence.

If any students want help on Pd audio related matters, as per normal please don't hesitate to contact me at the usual address.

On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:27:39 -0500 (EST) Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca wrote:

On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote:

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Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys?

Where should I be?

...

add your names, hurry! :)

Why should I add my name?

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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote:

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

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Why should I add my name?

you could be mentor for a project.

I mean, why should I be mentor for a project?

how about LibPDEngine? :)

That's not really related to anything I do. Well, I did a quick test of making and using libpd.so in DD, but I didn't have any real use for this in mind.

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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote:

what about MoreGUIs since that is kind of related to DD, isn't it?

Due to the GUI API being used by that project proposal, no, it's probably less related to DD than most any other GSoC submission. I mean, it's negatively related, whereas other proposals are just neutral towards it.

even though it has already 2 mentors... the more the better right?

Well, after 2 applicants, it doesn't really matter. It's not like both are going to desist. Only one gets to be the mentor, in the end.

it seems a pretty opportunity to add a project of your choice and add yourself as a mentor. you can only win or not?

I have no idea what I could submit, that could be reasonably accepted and that could be reasonably completed by an unspecified student.

So, what was the outcome of the previously accepted projects? Were the goals completed? How did it happen? I don't really recall reading about this.

How do students get chosen?

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oh sorry, have to add we had a good laugh with alexei shulguin once saying 'Google is GOD'

i find it more accurate now

xiaoo, sevy

ydegoyon@gmail.com wrote:

ola,

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Well, after 2 applicants, it doesn't really matter. It's not like both are going to desist. Only one gets to be the mentor, in the end.

hey you're almost as a bad asssssssss as me.

i would say 'fuck off corporate google collaborating on censorship in china', and 'you're still in a mentor/students relationship model, wow, 18th century'

oops, can i ask to noone to make pdp run on windows ? and to windows to run a bulldozer, thanks

sevy

i just added a pd patching idea, to build a library of filters.

i think this idea would also work really well if merged with the 'blosc' one, because frankly $4500 for a student to make some bandlimited oscillators is pretty expensive!

http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/PurePDFilters

On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, ydegoyon@gmail.com wrote:

hey you're almost as a bad asssssssss as me.

I didn't want any of your mail, I don't want any of your mail, and I won't want any of your mail.

that's all.

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