I am trying to make it as simple as possible for "Board Ops" these are people who might not be savvy with pd and need stuff to be as simple as a "GO" button, spacebar or click

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From: tim vets [mailto:timvets@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:36 AM To: Pagano, Patrick; pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] Pd cuer

2010/6/16 Pagano, Patrick <pat@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:pat@digitalworlds.ufl.edu> I am still interested in researching a way for pd to be used more like a software like Isadora that allows different patches to be cued for live and theatrical performance. Basically we would like to use Pure Data to cue a theatre show with the media cued from a mouse/keyboard/HID input that steps through a cue list with different pd patches appearing instantly. Something like playlist~ that can choose different pd patches over an hour long program. Has anyone successfully done this? I wonder why it would be necessary to have whole patches appearing and disappearing on the screen for running a theatre show, but you could try: [; pd open mypatch.pd /path/to/patch/ ( (see pd-msg/2.msg_and_pd/ ) personally I would make one patch that contains everything and activate/deactivate processes inside that. If you really want patches to switch visually , there's also the 'vis 1' and 'vis 0' message. gr, Tim

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I would recommend one big patch. You can make abstractions for the individual parts and a main interface for each so, so each abstraction can be reused by mutliple shows etc.

I made a sound board for a theater show I was in which worked out great and could be easily extended through a midi interface. The buttons are subpatches which contain the sound generation/playback and channel control so everything is automatic.

On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:53 PM, tim vets wrote:

2010/6/16 Pagano, Patrick pat@digitalworlds.ufl.edu I am trying to make it as simple as possible for “Board Ops” these are people who might not be savvy with pd and need stuff to be as simple as a “GO” button, spacebar or click

Yes, you can do all that inside one patch and make an easy to use interface with some key commands and visual feedback for the user... just my 2 cents...

Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com

Pagano, Patrick wrote:

I am trying to make it as simple as possible for "Board Ops" these are people who might not be savvy with pd and need stuff to be as simple as a "GO" button, spacebar or click

For use by someone familiar with operating a lighting or sound desk then a midi controller (I use a BFC2000, but there are lots of other ways to go) controlling a main patch, which has a simple visual feedback layout and keeps all the guts in sub-patches is a nice way to go. A few years ago I set up a 3 camera - 2 output vision mixer with a bunch of visual effects for a show, we set it up in 5 venues and the video guy, who knew almost nothing of pd at the time (but a lot about analogue video) set it up and operated it easily, without any outside help.

I've also given operators a simple keyboard number pad, then set up the patch to run cues with the same logic as most modern lighting desks use - key sequences like 2 digits followed by a + to GO are very familiar to any theatre operator.

Then you can get a bit fancy and use some other controller, I've used Spaceballs and tablets a few times.

Finally if touring a show anything visual that is run using DMX from the lighting desk will be happily operated by the lighting operator, while if you add another interface suddenly you find in many venues you need an extra person to do those cues, so it can be worth it to buy (or make) a USB interface that takes the lighting protocol - DMX - and control your patch using a few lighting channels as part of the lighting plot.

Simon