Hey everyone,
I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly.
Any ideas? Anything would be helpful.
Thank you for your time, Sebastian
Hello Sebastian,
Couple of years ago I tried to use a bluetooth stereo device for wireless monitoring in Pd. Nice thing about OSX is you can create an 'Aggregated Device' in 'Audio MIDI Setup' to include the bluetooth stereo to the regular sound card and use the extra channels in Pd. However, I soon found that bluetooth stereo had over half a second latency, so it was not useful for my purpose of monitoring. Besides that, bluetooth audio pairing was really a pain in OSX (back then at least).
Another thing, when connecting a phone as bluetooth device to MacBook, I see the following services: Dial-up Networking, Human interface device, OBEX File Transfer, OBEX Object Push. None of these makes the phone available as an extra audio interface. No way to capture it's audio in Pd, like it can be done with bluetooth headsets.
With WIFI-enabled cell phones there may be better possibilities, using Skype or similar, and route audio to Pd with Jack or Soundflower.
Katja
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamusic@gmail.com wrote:
Hey everyone,
I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly.
Any ideas? Anything would be helpful.
Thank you for your time, Sebastian
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I think the obvious way to do this is to hack a Bluetooth headset. You could attach the headset with cables to an existing audiointerface... The user just connects to a regular headset. On Oct 29, 2012 12:56 PM, "katja" katjavetter@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Sebastian,
Couple of years ago I tried to use a bluetooth stereo device for wireless monitoring in Pd. Nice thing about OSX is you can create an 'Aggregated Device' in 'Audio MIDI Setup' to include the bluetooth stereo to the regular sound card and use the extra channels in Pd. However, I soon found that bluetooth stereo had over half a second latency, so it was not useful for my purpose of monitoring. Besides that, bluetooth audio pairing was really a pain in OSX (back then at least).
Another thing, when connecting a phone as bluetooth device to MacBook, I see the following services: Dial-up Networking, Human interface device, OBEX File Transfer, OBEX Object Push. None of these makes the phone available as an extra audio interface. No way to capture it's audio in Pd, like it can be done with bluetooth headsets.
With WIFI-enabled cell phones there may be better possibilities, using Skype or similar, and route audio to Pd with Jack or Soundflower.
Katja
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamusic@gmail.com wrote:
Hey everyone,
I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask
this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly.
Any ideas? Anything would be helpful.
Thank you for your time, Sebastian
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On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Simon Iten itensimon@gmail.com wrote:
I think the obvious way to do this is to hack a Bluetooth headset. You could attach the headset with cables to an existing audiointerface... The user just connects to a regular headset.
That's slightly less obvious than plugging in a stereo output cable from phone to sound card.
There are also bluetooth audio devices (headset omitted) that have stereo outputs (here's one example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875981014&nm_mc=KN... )
A software only solution is more interesting though--good luck, I have no clue how you might do it, but I'll be reading to know if/how you do.
Chuck
On Oct 29, 2012 12:56 PM, "katja" katjavetter@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Sebastian,
Couple of years ago I tried to use a bluetooth stereo device for wireless monitoring in Pd. Nice thing about OSX is you can create an 'Aggregated Device' in 'Audio MIDI Setup' to include the bluetooth stereo to the regular sound card and use the extra channels in Pd. However, I soon found that bluetooth stereo had over half a second latency, so it was not useful for my purpose of monitoring. Besides that, bluetooth audio pairing was really a pain in OSX (back then at least).
Another thing, when connecting a phone as bluetooth device to MacBook, I see the following services: Dial-up Networking, Human interface device, OBEX File Transfer, OBEX Object Push. None of these makes the phone available as an extra audio interface. No way to capture it's audio in Pd, like it can be done with bluetooth headsets.
With WIFI-enabled cell phones there may be better possibilities, using Skype or similar, and route audio to Pd with Jack or Soundflower.
Katja
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamusic@gmail.com wrote:
Hey everyone,
I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly.
Any ideas? Anything would be helpful.
Thank you for your time, Sebastian
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- Charles Henry czhenry@gmail.com [2012-10-29 21:12]:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Simon Iten itensimon@gmail.com wrote:
I think the obvious way to do this is to hack a Bluetooth headset. You could attach the headset with cables to an existing audiointerface... The user just connects to a regular headset.
That's slightly less obvious than plugging in a stereo output cable from phone to sound card.
There are also bluetooth audio devices (headset omitted) that have stereo outputs (here's one example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875981014&nm_mc=KN... )
A software only solution is more interesting though--good luck, I have no clue how you might do it, but I'll be reading to know if/how you do.
Has anyone already suggested a SIP software phone that can talk to jack (perhaps via one of the alsa bridges)?
best, Jo
Chuck
On Oct 29, 2012 12:56 PM, "katja" katjavetter@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Sebastian,
Couple of years ago I tried to use a bluetooth stereo device for wireless monitoring in Pd. Nice thing about OSX is you can create an 'Aggregated Device' in 'Audio MIDI Setup' to include the bluetooth stereo to the regular sound card and use the extra channels in Pd. However, I soon found that bluetooth stereo had over half a second latency, so it was not useful for my purpose of monitoring. Besides that, bluetooth audio pairing was really a pain in OSX (back then at least).
Another thing, when connecting a phone as bluetooth device to MacBook, I see the following services: Dial-up Networking, Human interface device, OBEX File Transfer, OBEX Object Push. None of these makes the phone available as an extra audio interface. No way to capture it's audio in Pd, like it can be done with bluetooth headsets.
With WIFI-enabled cell phones there may be better possibilities, using Skype or similar, and route audio to Pd with Jack or Soundflower.
Katja
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamusic@gmail.com wrote:
Hey everyone,
I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly.
Any ideas? Anything would be helpful.
Thank you for your time, Sebastian
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On 30/10/12 06:13, Johanna Nowak wrote:
- Charles Henryczhenry@gmail.com [2012-10-29 21:12]:
A software only solution is more interesting though--good luck, I have no clue how you might do it, but I'll be reading to know if/how you do.
Has anyone already suggested a SIP software phone that can talk to jack (perhaps via one of the alsa bridges)?
Asterisk can talk to jack directly, and is very capable. It can make and receive calls, generate voice menus, deal with SIP, SMS etc etc.
I did a project using some of that capacity along with Pd a few years ago.
Simon
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