Hi all
Yeah, it's never too late for basic questions. Basically i would like to create file player patch, that let's you pick a soundfile (be it a wav) of any number of channels and a bit depth currently supported by [readsf~] and it should be able to play from any position between the start and the end of the file.
Usually i used a kludge by using [soundfiler] in order to get the number of sample frames of the file and then i calculated the number of bytes to be skipped in order to be able to let [readsf~] play the file from a random position. However, this only works when the actual header size of the file is constant (i.e. known and the same for every file; ok, when the header sizes would be known, they wouldn't need to be the same for all files, but you get the point) and when you know beforehand the bit depth of the file(s), since [readsf~] reads it correctly, but doesn't tell you about it.
Now, i would like to be able to play wav files correctly with arbitrary (unkown) bit depths and arbitrary (unkown) number of channels. Also, i am looking for a way to be able to load both, simple RIFF WAV and so called 'Broadcast WAV' files (the ones with a 'bext' header signature).
I also tried [wavinfo] from ext13. However, this seems to work only with the former (simple) format, but not with broadcast wav-files. Funny enough, [readsf~] seems to have everything needed built-in, since it reads both formats correctly, it just does not expose those functions to the pd patch (as this unfortunately is often the problem with many object classes).
Any idea or pointers to other externals welcome!
Roman
What about readanysf~? You can send it [seek $1( and you can also get the file length in seconds out with [route length]
Quoth Roman Haefeli, on 06/12/09 23:57:
Hi all
Yeah, it's never too late for basic questions. Basically i would like to create file player patch, that let's you pick a soundfile (be it a wav) of any number of channels and a bit depth currently supported by [readsf~] and it should be able to play from any position between the start and the end of the file.
Usually i used a kludge by using [soundfiler] in order to get the number of sample frames of the file and then i calculated the number of bytes to be skipped in order to be able to let [readsf~] play the file from a random position. However, this only works when the actual header size of the file is constant (i.e. known and the same for every file; ok, when the header sizes would be known, they wouldn't need to be the same for all files, but you get the point) and when you know beforehand the bit depth of the file(s), since [readsf~] reads it correctly, but doesn't tell you about it.
Now, i would like to be able to play wav files correctly with arbitrary (unkown) bit depths and arbitrary (unkown) number of channels. Also, i am looking for a way to be able to load both, simple RIFF WAV and so called 'Broadcast WAV' files (the ones with a 'bext' header signature).
I also tried [wavinfo] from ext13. However, this seems to work only with the former (simple) format, but not with broadcast wav-files. Funny enough, [readsf~] seems to have everything needed built-in, since it reads both formats correctly, it just does not expose those functions to the pd patch (as this unfortunately is often the problem with many object classes).
Any idea or pointers to other externals welcome!
Roman
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Hi James
Thanks for that hint. I actually _wanted_ to check [readanysf~], but failed to compile it. But yeah, it would cover some of the given requirments. Unfortunately, it does not seem to return the number of channels of an audio file. Since i cannot test myself now: Is it able at all to play multi-channel-files with a higher number of channels than 2?
I don't see any errors, when running ./configure. However, 'make' fails pretty early:
roman@yoyo2:~/pd-svn/externals/august/readanysf~$ make
make all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory
/home/roman/pd-svn/externals/august/readanysf~' Making all in src make[2]: Entering directory/home/roman/pd-svn/externals/august/readanysf~/src'
g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/include/
-I/usr/local/lib/pd/flext/ -I../include/ -DUNIX -Wno-deprecated -Wall
-Wimplicit -Wunused -Wmissing-prototypes -O1 -DFLEXT_SYS=2
-DFLEXT_THREADS -DFLEXT_SHARED -DFLEXT_USE_CMEM
-I/usr/local/include/flext -DREAD_VORBIS -DREAD_MAD -DREAD_FLAC -MT
Input.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/Input.Tpo -c -o Input.o Input.cpp
cc1plus: warning: command line option "-Wmissing-prototypes" is valid
for Ada/C/ObjC but not for C++
Input.cpp:2:22: error: iostream.h: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [Input.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
/home/roman/pd-svn/externals/august/readanysf~/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory/home/roman/pd-svn/externals/august/readanysf~'
make: *** [all] Error 2
There are several packages delivering a file 'iostream.h', but none of them puts it directly to /usr/include. I also did install all the pre-requisites of readanysf~: libmad, libsamplerate, libflac, libogg, working flext.
Help would be much appreciated.
Roman
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 16:43 +0000, James Dunn wrote:
What about readanysf~? You can send it [seek $1( and you can also get the file length in seconds out with [route length]
Quoth Roman Haefeli, on 06/12/09 23:57:
Hi all
Yeah, it's never too late for basic questions. Basically i would like to create file player patch, that let's you pick a soundfile (be it a wav) of any number of channels and a bit depth currently supported by [readsf~] and it should be able to play from any position between the start and the end of the file.
Usually i used a kludge by using [soundfiler] in order to get the number of sample frames of the file and then i calculated the number of bytes to be skipped in order to be able to let [readsf~] play the file from a random position. However, this only works when the actual header size of the file is constant (i.e. known and the same for every file; ok, when the header sizes would be known, they wouldn't need to be the same for all files, but you get the point) and when you know beforehand the bit depth of the file(s), since [readsf~] reads it correctly, but doesn't tell you about it.
Now, i would like to be able to play wav files correctly with arbitrary (unkown) bit depths and arbitrary (unkown) number of channels. Also, i am looking for a way to be able to load both, simple RIFF WAV and so called 'Broadcast WAV' files (the ones with a 'bext' header signature).
I also tried [wavinfo] from ext13. However, this seems to work only with the former (simple) format, but not with broadcast wav-files. Funny enough, [readsf~] seems to have everything needed built-in, since it reads both formats correctly, it just does not expose those functions to the pd patch (as this unfortunately is often the problem with many object classes).
Any idea or pointers to other externals welcome!
Roman
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Hi Roman,
I just installed readanysf~ again on my new install of Ubuntu 9.10 and had no problems. Obviously you need gavl and gmerlin-avdecode. I also had to install libgmerlin0. It doesn't return the number of channels but you can specify a number (default is 2) and it will upmix or downmix all channels accordingly. I don't know about the iostream.h error.
James
Quoth Roman Haefeli, on 07/12/09 21:55:
Hi James
Thanks for that hint. I actually _wanted_ to check [readanysf~], but failed to compile it. But yeah, it would cover some of the given requirments. Unfortunately, it does not seem to return the number of channels of an audio file. Since i cannot test myself now: Is it able at all to play multi-channel-files with a higher number of channels than 2?
I don't see any errors, when running ./configure. However, 'make' fails pretty early:
roman@yoyo2:~/pd-svn/externals/august/readanysf~$ make make all-recursive make[1]: Entering directory
/home/roman/pd-svn/externals/august/readanysf~' Making all in src make[2]: Entering directory/home/roman/pd-svn/externals/august/readanysf~/src' g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/include/ -I/usr/local/lib/pd/flext/ -I../include/ -DUNIX -Wno-deprecated -Wall -Wimplicit -Wunused -Wmissing-prototypes -O1 -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -DFLEXT_THREADS -DFLEXT_SHARED -DFLEXT_USE_CMEM -I/usr/local/include/flext -DREAD_VORBIS -DREAD_MAD -DREAD_FLAC -MT Input.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/Input.Tpo -c -o Input.o Input.cpp cc1plus: warning: command line option "-Wmissing-prototypes" is valid for Ada/C/ObjC but not for C++ Input.cpp:2:22: error: iostream.h: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [Input.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory/home/roman/pd-svn/externals/august/readanysf~/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory/home/roman/pd-svn/externals/august/readanysf~' make: *** [all] Error 2There are several packages delivering a file 'iostream.h', but none of them puts it directly to /usr/include. I also did install all the pre-requisites of readanysf~: libmad, libsamplerate, libflac, libogg, working flext.
Help would be much appreciated.
Roman
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 16:43 +0000, James Dunn wrote:
What about readanysf~? You can send it [seek $1( and you can also get the file length in seconds out with [route length]
Quoth Roman Haefeli, on 06/12/09 23:57:
Hi all
Yeah, it's never too late for basic questions. Basically i would like to create file player patch, that let's you pick a soundfile (be it a wav) of any number of channels and a bit depth currently supported by [readsf~] and it should be able to play from any position between the start and the end of the file.
Usually i used a kludge by using [soundfiler] in order to get the number of sample frames of the file and then i calculated the number of bytes to be skipped in order to be able to let [readsf~] play the file from a random position. However, this only works when the actual header size of the file is constant (i.e. known and the same for every file; ok, when the header sizes would be known, they wouldn't need to be the same for all files, but you get the point) and when you know beforehand the bit depth of the file(s), since [readsf~] reads it correctly, but doesn't tell you about it.
Now, i would like to be able to play wav files correctly with arbitrary (unkown) bit depths and arbitrary (unkown) number of channels. Also, i am looking for a way to be able to load both, simple RIFF WAV and so called 'Broadcast WAV' files (the ones with a 'bext' header signature).
I also tried [wavinfo] from ext13. However, this seems to work only with the former (simple) format, but not with broadcast wav-files. Funny enough, [readsf~] seems to have everything needed built-in, since it reads both formats correctly, it just does not expose those functions to the pd patch (as this unfortunately is often the problem with many object classes).
Any idea or pointers to other externals welcome!
Roman
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On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 11:47 +0000, James Dunn wrote:
Hi Roman,
I just installed readanysf~ again on my new install of Ubuntu 9.10 and had no problems. Obviously you need gavl and gmerlin-avdecode. I also had to install libgmerlin0. It doesn't return the number of channels but you can specify a number (default is 2) and it will upmix or downmix all channels accordingly. I don't know about the iostream.h error.
Thank you a lot. Your help shed quite some light on many issues I encountered with getting readanysf~ running. I was wrongly assuming, that I find the newest version in Pd svn. However, in the svn version, there is no mention of the version whatsoever. The mention of flext and the lack of mention of gmerlin made it finally clear, that this likely is a very old version. On 1 I could find a more recent version, which is most likely the one you were referring to. Compiling gmerlin_avdecoder was also very difficult, at least on ubuntu 9.10 (haven't tried on another OS). I tried four different versions (including a current cvs checkout) and when doing 'make' all failed with different errors. From googling around a bit, it seems, that the version of gcc shipped with ubuntu 9.10 (4.4.1) is pretty picky. I just commented out the offending lines in the source code (yeah, this is crude, but i didn't know what else to do) and finally it compiled. After all, [readanysf~] compiled and loads. You must be lucky or smart and i must be dumb or i made something terribly wrong.
@August (or any dev who took over the maintenance of readanysf~): Would it be possible to check in the new sources of readanysf~? I mean, if there is no reason for not having them there. Thanks!
Roman
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 11:47 +0000, James Dunn wrote:
Hi Roman,
I just installed readanysf~ again on my new install of Ubuntu 9.10 and had no problems. Obviously you need gavl and gmerlin-avdecode. I also had to install libgmerlin0. It doesn't return the number of channels but you can specify a number (default is 2) and it will upmix or downmix all channels accordingly. I don't know about the iostream.h error.
Thank you a lot. Your help shed quite some light on many issues I encountered with getting readanysf~ running. I was wrongly assuming, that I find the newest version in Pd svn. However, in the svn version, there is no mention of the version whatsoever. The mention of flext and the lack of mention of gmerlin made it finally clear, that this likely is a very old version. On 1 I could find a more recent version, which is most likely the one you were referring to. Compiling gmerlin_avdecoder was also very difficult, at least on ubuntu 9.10 (haven't tried on another OS). I tried four different versions (including a current cvs checkout) and when doing 'make' all failed with different errors. From googling around a bit, it seems, that the version of gcc shipped with ubuntu 9.10 (4.4.1) is pretty picky. I just commented out the offending lines in the source code (yeah, this is crude, but i didn't know what else to do) and finally it compiled. After all, [readanysf~] compiled and loads. You must be lucky or smart and i must be dumb or i made something terribly wrong.
@August (or any dev who took over the maintenance of readanysf~): Would it be possible to check in the new sources of readanysf~? I mean, if there is no reason for not having them there. Thanks!
Roman
Roman,
Sorry for the hassle. I don't really have access to the PD svn. However,
I'm sure I could be given access. Who can do that?
-august.
Am 09.12.09 08:55 schrieb "august" unter august@alien.mur.at:
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 11:47 +0000, James Dunn wrote:
Hi Roman,
I just installed readanysf~ again on my new install of Ubuntu 9.10 and had no problems. Obviously you need gavl and gmerlin-avdecode. I also had to install libgmerlin0. It doesn't return the number of channels but you can specify a number (default is 2) and it will upmix or downmix all channels accordingly. I don't know about the iostream.h error.
Thank you a lot. Your help shed quite some light on many issues I encountered with getting readanysf~ running. I was wrongly assuming, that I find the newest version in Pd svn. However, in the svn version, there is no mention of the version whatsoever. The mention of flext and the lack of mention of gmerlin made it finally clear, that this likely is a very old version. On 1 I could find a more recent version, which is most likely the one you were referring to. Compiling gmerlin_avdecoder was also very difficult, at least on ubuntu 9.10 (haven't tried on another OS). I tried four different versions (including a current cvs checkout) and when doing 'make' all failed with different errors. From googling around a bit, it seems, that the version of gcc shipped with ubuntu 9.10 (4.4.1) is pretty picky. I just commented out the offending lines in the source code (yeah, this is crude, but i didn't know what else to do) and finally it compiled. After all, [readanysf~] compiled and loads. You must be lucky or smart and i must be dumb or i made something terribly wrong.
@August (or any dev who took over the maintenance of readanysf~): Would it be possible to check in the new sources of readanysf~? I mean, if there is no reason for not having them there. Thanks!
Roman
Roman,
Sorry for the hassle. I don't really have access to the PD svn. However, I'm sure I could be given access. Who can do that?
Sorry, if this sounded like a rant. [readanysf~] is really handy. Thanks for writing it.
Usually, if people want to have write access to svn, they ask on pd-dev list and after the usual 'period of objection' one of the devs can grant you access.
Roman
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Am 08.12.09 12:47 schrieb "James Dunn" unter james@4thharmonic.com:
Hi Roman,
I just installed readanysf~ again on my new install of Ubuntu 9.10 and had no problems. Obviously you need gavl and gmerlin-avdecode. I also had to install libgmerlin0.
Sorry for becoming slightly off-topic, but could you compile gmerlin-avdecode out-of-the-box on ubuntu 9.10? May i ask which version you decided?
I get: i_avdec.c:424: error: unknown field has_still¹ specified in initializer
I just commented out this line in plugins/i_avdec.c and then got similar errors on other similiar lines, which I also commented out. Finally it compiled, but i don't know what I have done. I hope not something very bad.
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Quoth Roman Haefeli, on 09/12/09 08:58:
Am 08.12.09 12:47 schrieb "James Dunn" unter james@4thharmonic.com:
Hi Roman,
I just installed readanysf~ again on my new install of Ubuntu 9.10 and had no problems. Obviously you need gavl and gmerlin-avdecode. I also had to install libgmerlin0.
Sorry for becoming slightly off-topic, but could you compile gmerlin-avdecode out-of-the-box on ubuntu 9.10? May i ask which version you decided?
I get: i_avdec.c:424: error: unknown field OEhas_still¹ specified in initializer
I just commented out this line in plugins/i_avdec.c and then got similar errors on other similiar lines, which I also commented out. Finally it compiled, but i don't know what I have done. I hope not something very bad.
Roman
Just checking through my bash history...
First I installed gavl 1.1.1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmerlin/files/gavl/1.1.1/gavl-1.1.1.tar.gz/d... then texinfo (sudo apt-get install texinfo) as prompted by the ./configure stage of gmerlin 0.4.1 then gmerlin 0.4.1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmerlin/files/gmerlin/0.4.1/gmerlin-0.4.1.ta... then gmerlin-avdecoder 1.0.1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmerlin/files/gmerlin-avdecoder/1.0.1/gmerli... finally I compiled readanysf~ 0.36 http://aug.ment.org/software/readanysf~0.36.tar.gz http://aug.ment.org/software/readanysf%7E0.36.tar.gz and copied the ,pd_linux file to /usr/lib/pd/extra
I had an error message in the pd console: libgmerlin_avdec.so.1 not found or something, so I installed libgmerlin0 via synaptic and then it worked.
Hope this helps!
A lot!
It seems, that this is way is _much_ cleaner (without having to do nasty things to the sources). I didn't compile gmerlin, since there is a ubuntu package, but obviously it's better compile it as well.
Thanks Roman
Am 09.12.09 11:31 schrieb "James Dunn" unter james@4thharmonic.com:
First I installed gavl 1.1.1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmerlin/files/gavl/1.1.1/gavl-1.1.1.tar.gz/d... nload then texinfo (sudo apt-get install texinfo) as prompted by the ./configure stage of gmerlin 0.4.1 then gmerlin 0.4.1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmerlin/files/gmerlin/0.4.1/gmerlin-0.4.1.ta.... gz/download then gmerlin-avdecoder 1.0.1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmerlin/files/gmerlin-avdecoder/1.0.1/gmerli... avdecoder-1.0.1.tar.gz/download finally I compiled readanysf~ 0.36 http://aug.ment.org/software/readanysf~0.36.tar.gz http://aug.ment.org/software/readanysf%7E0.36.tar.gz and copied the ,pd_linux file to /usr/lib/pd/extra
I had an error message in the pd console: libgmerlin_avdec.so.1 not found or something, so I installed libgmerlin0 via synaptic and then it worked.
Hope this helps!
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I just now have a fresh install of Karmic.
Since there is no libgmerlin_avdec-dev package for ubuntu, I have decided to install it all from source. I don't want a mix of packaged and unpackaged software. Also, you only need gavl and gmerlin_avdecoder. You do not need Gmerlin.
gavl is very easy to install.
for gmerlin_avdecoder source, install these first:
sudo apt-get install libz-dev sudo apt-get install libavcodec-dev libswscale-dev sudo apt-get install libavformat-dev libpostproc-dev libspeex-dev sudo apt-get install libmjpegtools-dev libtheora-dev libvorbis-dev sudo apt-get install libschroedinger-dev libfaad-dev libflac-dev sudo apt-get install libtiff4-dev libopenjpeg-dev liba52-dev sudo apt-get install libmad0-dev libdvdread-dev libcdio-dev sudo apt-get install libmpeg2-4-dev libmpcdec-dev
(do not install libdca-dev)
then, get the gmerlin_avdecoder source. I prefer from CVS, but you can also download the tar.gz package.
then ./configure then make then make install
make sure to do: sudo ldconfig
then get readanysf with: wget http://aug.ment.org/software/readanysf~0.36.tar.gz
untar it, cd into readanysf, and do "make"
now you should have it. (I just did that from a clean Ubuntu Karmic install)
sorry its not easier, but packaging software is very unrewarding and time consuming.
best -august.
A lot!
It seems, that this is way is _much_ cleaner (without having to do nasty things to the sources). I didn't compile gmerlin, since there is a ubuntu package, but obviously it's better compile it as well.
Thanks Roman
Am 09.12.09 11:31 schrieb "James Dunn" unter james@4thharmonic.com:
First I installed gavl 1.1.1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmerlin/files/gavl/1.1.1/gavl-1.1.1.tar.gz/d... nload then texinfo (sudo apt-get install texinfo) as prompted by the ./configure stage of gmerlin 0.4.1 then gmerlin 0.4.1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmerlin/files/gmerlin/0.4.1/gmerlin-0.4.1.ta.... gz/download then gmerlin-avdecoder 1.0.1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmerlin/files/gmerlin-avdecoder/1.0.1/gmerli... avdecoder-1.0.1.tar.gz/download finally I compiled readanysf~ 0.36 http://aug.ment.org/software/readanysf~0.36.tar.gz http://aug.ment.org/software/readanysf%7E0.36.tar.gz and copied the ,pd_linux file to /usr/lib/pd/extra
I had an error message in the pd console: libgmerlin_avdec.so.1 not found or something, so I installed libgmerlin0 via synaptic and then it worked.
Hope this helps!
Hi August
Thanks a lot for your resumé.
Am 09.12.09 15:48 schrieb "august" unter august@alien.mur.at:
Since there is no libgmerlin_avdec-dev package for ubuntu, I have decided to install it all from source. I don't want a mix of packaged and unpackaged software.
You're right. It turned out that this was the cause of my troubles.
Also, you only need gavl and gmerlin_avdecoder. You do not need Gmerlin.
I see.
for gmerlin_avdecoder source, install these first:
sudo apt-get install libz-dev sudo apt-get install libavcodec-dev libswscale-dev sudo apt-get install libavformat-dev libpostproc-dev libspeex-dev sudo apt-get install libmjpegtools-dev libtheora-dev libvorbis-dev sudo apt-get install libschroedinger-dev libfaad-dev libflac-dev sudo apt-get install libtiff4-dev libopenjpeg-dev liba52-dev sudo apt-get install libmad0-dev libdvdread-dev libcdio-dev sudo apt-get install libmpeg2-4-dev libmpcdec-dev
I remember having had to install libdts-dev, which was not detected by ./configure script. During 'make' i got something like:
Error: dts.h: no such file or directory
The rest is indeed easy
I really shouldn't have mixed packaged binaries with self-compiled versions.
sorry its not easier, but packaging software is very unrewarding and time consuming.
I hear you. I don't think that is necessary anymore with your guide :-)
Thanks for your help Best Roman
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Could y'all turn this into a readanysf~ howto and stick it somewhere?
somewhere on puredata.info would work.
.hc
On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
Hi August
Thanks a lot for your resumé.
Am 09.12.09 15:48 schrieb "august" unter august@alien.mur.at:
Since there is no libgmerlin_avdec-dev package for ubuntu, I have decided to install it all from source. I don't want a mix of
packaged and unpackaged software.You're right. It turned out that this was the cause of my troubles.
Also, you only need gavl and gmerlin_avdecoder. You do not need Gmerlin.
I see.
for gmerlin_avdecoder source, install these first:
sudo apt-get install libz-dev sudo apt-get install libavcodec-dev libswscale-dev sudo apt-get install libavformat-dev libpostproc-dev libspeex-dev sudo apt-get install libmjpegtools-dev libtheora-dev libvorbis-dev sudo apt-get install libschroedinger-dev libfaad-dev libflac-dev sudo apt-get install libtiff4-dev libopenjpeg-dev liba52-dev sudo apt-get install libmad0-dev libdvdread-dev libcdio-dev sudo apt-get install libmpeg2-4-dev libmpcdec-dev
I remember having had to install libdts-dev, which was not detected by ./configure script. During 'make' i got something like:
Error: dts.h: no such file or directory
The rest is indeed easy
I really shouldn't have mixed packaged binaries with self-compiled
versions.sorry its not easier, but packaging software is very unrewarding and time consuming.
I hear you. I don't think that is necessary anymore with your
guide :-)Thanks for your help Best Roman
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