Hi all, Is there any way to get a true fullscreen pdp-xv window, without any borders etc.? I guess I could try to use a windowmanager wich offers this (suggestions for this route are welcome too), but I wonder if there is a pd way to do this for just the output window of my pd-pdp project.
This is going to be window manager territory. Most WM should allow you to set an existing window to have no border/decorations, and maybe even set up some rules to make all of a certain app type draw without borders.
I currently use wmi (wmi.modprobe.de) and I have a hotkey set up to do this.
m.
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:44:40 +0100, Marc Boon marcboon@dds.nl wrote:
Hi all, Is there any way to get a true fullscreen pdp-xv window, without any borders etc.? I guess I could try to use a windowmanager wich offers this (suggestions for this route are welcome too), but I wonder if there is a pd way to do this for just the output window of my pd-pdp project.
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I know this is of no help but - since I have this 'problem' a lot - I prefer to use X without *any* windowmanager. I put some xterms on screen ( preferably with different colours for different tasks etc...) and the pd gui using my .xinitrc file; the --geometry 100+40+0+0 option is what you need for this :)
however, the older version of enlightenment (6 I guess) has this built in the options for each window and can 'remember' those settings. Blackbox has some extra utils where you can bind 'remove window decorations' to a short-key.
anyway, I prefer the .xinitrc approach. make one that works for your performance, and just replace your regular .xinitrc with that when you need it.
Matthew Allen wrote:
This is going to be window manager territory. Most WM should allow you to set an existing window to have no border/decorations, and maybe even set up some rules to make all of a certain app type draw without borders.
I currently use wmi (wmi.modprobe.de) and I have a hotkey set up to do this.
m.
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Hi all, Is there any way to get a true fullscreen pdp-xv window, without any borders etc.? I guess I could try to use a windowmanager wich offers this (suggestions for this route are welcome too), but I wonder if there is a pd way to do this for just the output window of my pd-pdp project.
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Hallo, MvH hat gesagt: // MvH wrote:
I know this is of no help but - since I have this 'problem' a lot - I prefer to use X without *any* windowmanager. I put some xterms on screen ( preferably with different colours for different tasks etc...) and the pd gui using my .xinitrc file; the --geometry 100+40+0+0 option is what you need for this :)
This is a cute solution, however there are a lot of window managers, which are almost like that with a little bit of added comfort. WMI was mentioned, other alternatives might include Ion or evilwm, which is Tom's WM of choice, AFAIK. Evilwm even is included as a packet forth module in latest pdp cvs, for those, who like to take it to the extreme. :) Evilwm already is available as a Python module, which is what I also played with. I like the idea of starting X without WM, just a Python shell in a terminal, then doing a
import EvilWM e = EvilWM.WM e.run()
or similar. Good to shock friends who complain about Linux not being user friendly. It's so nerdy. ;)
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
hey, did we tell you that pdp_xv and pdp_glx accept messages like 'pos 0 0' and 'dim 1024 768' ??
sevy
MvH wrote:
I know this is of no help but - since I have this 'problem' a lot - I prefer to use X without *any* windowmanager. I put some xterms on screen ( preferably with different colours for different tasks etc...) and the pd gui using my .xinitrc file; the --geometry 100+40+0+0 option is what you need for this :)
however, the older version of enlightenment (6 I guess) has this built in the options for each window and can 'remember' those settings. Blackbox has some extra utils where you can bind 'remove window decorations' to a short-key.
anyway, I prefer the .xinitrc approach. make one that works for your performance, and just replace your regular .xinitrc with that when you need it.
Matthew Allen wrote:
This is going to be window manager territory. Most WM should allow you to set an existing window to have no border/decorations, and maybe even set up some rules to make all of a certain app type draw without borders.
I currently use wmi (wmi.modprobe.de) and I have a hotkey set up to do this.
m.
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:44:40 +0100, Marc Boon marcboon@dds.nl wrote:
Hi all, Is there any way to get a true fullscreen pdp-xv window, without any borders etc.? I guess I could try to use a windowmanager wich offers this (suggestions for this route are welcome too), but I wonder if there is a pd way to do this for just the output window of my pd-pdp project.
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Yves Degoyon wrote:
hey, did we tell you that pdp_xv and pdp_glx accept messages like 'pos 0 0' and 'dim 1024 768' ??
I was using the 'fullscreen' message with pd_xv, but still have borders.
I think I will try the .xinitrc way which MvH suggested, which seems most suited to my setup, since it's an embedded application, without keyboard/mouse.
The Python EvilWM trick from Frank also sounds attractive to me though, in a nerdy kind of way ;)
thanks!
MvH wrote:
I know this is of no help but - since I have this 'problem' a lot - I prefer to use X without *any* windowmanager. I put some xterms on screen ( preferably with different colours for different tasks etc...) and the pd gui using my .xinitrc file; the --geometry 100+40+0+0 option is what you need for this :)
I can't get this to work. Setting up a .xinitrc in my home dir doesn't do anything. I just get the usual KDE desktop. Is there anything else I have to do?
Pleae note that I also need autologon, since the box has no keyboard/mouse and no human operator. It has to start with fullscreen Pd running after power-up without any human intervention.
Maybe a copy of your .xinitrc that you use in situations like this could help.
Marc Boon wrote:
MvH wrote:
I can't get this to work. Setting up a .xinitrc in my home dir doesn't do anything. I just get the usual KDE desktop. Is there anything else I have to do?
i never hazzle with things like that, but it seems like your .xinitrc does not get executed. .xinitrc will be executed when you call "xinit" (from the console) (e.g. you stop all display managers, login to a console, and type xinit)
if you do a normal graphical login the following is going on: root starts the display-manager (which is similar to running xinit; so everything that happens afterwards is already too late for your .xinitrc to be read); when you log in, your task will be forked off the main X-session
mfg.ads.r IOhannes
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
i never hazzle with things like that, but it seems like your .xinitrc does not get executed. .xinitrc will be executed when you call "xinit" (from the console) (e.g. you stop all display managers, login to a console, and type xinit)
It might also be, that the system is set up to use .xsession instead, as Debian is for graphical logins.
Ciao
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