Dear list,
already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions, namely, none of the shortcuts work for me. To put in any object, message or number etc elements is possible only from the menu line. Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash again and again. What else I have realised, if I have all patch windows on a second screen, resizing the window made my window disappear totally, or appeared down of the screen.
I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5
Best,
Popesz
On 07/12/2018 03:12 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
Dear list,
already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions, namely, none of the shortcuts work for me.
all of them work for me. i also suspect, that they work for most other people, as otherwise their would have been at least one other complaint.
Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash again and again.
again and again? how often can you crash Pd?
but seriously, i doesn't crash for me. also, i have no clue how you interact with the patch to make it crash. please add a step-by-step guide to your patch, so people can (try to) reproduce your problem. something like: #1 click here #2 click here #3 click here to make it crash
I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5
self compiled, or the binaries from miller's website, or from somewhere else? 64bit or 32bit?
gfamdsr IOhannes
IOhannes,
thanks for your reply. There is no instruction about clicking in the right order, as Pd crashes at opening the patch itself. I am on 64bit version from binary.
Regarding the shortcuts, I had already this before on pd-extended, first time today it happened using 0.48.1. It must be something local then.
Popesz
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:26 PM IOhannes m zmölnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
On 07/12/2018 03:12 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
Dear list,
already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions,
namely,
none of the shortcuts work for me.
all of them work for me. i also suspect, that they work for most other people, as otherwise their would have been at least one other complaint.
Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash again and again.
again and again? how often can you crash Pd?
but seriously, i doesn't crash for me. also, i have no clue how you interact with the patch to make it crash. please add a step-by-step guide to your patch, so people can (try to) reproduce your problem. something like: #1 click here #2 click here #3 click here to make it crash
I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5
self compiled, or the binaries from miller's website, or from somewhere else? 64bit or 32bit?
gfamdsr IOhannes
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On 07/12/2018 03:32 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
IOhannes,
thanks for your reply. There is no instruction about clicking in the right order, as Pd crashes at opening the patch itself.
then you should:
- open a terminal
- start Pd from the console and tell it to print to stderr. something like:
$ /Applications/Pd-0.48-1.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -verbose -stderr /path/to/texttest.pd
see whether it gives you something meaningful. if it doesn't, try hooking up a debugger, like gdb or lldb.
gfdasr IOhannes
@Csaba:
Your test patch does not crash my windows machine.
I have problems visualizing it because is outside of the bounds of my monitor.
Open your patch with a text editor and change the first line:
#N canvas 1306 -1075 590 601 10;
to
#N canvas 1 1 590 601 10;
May be is just that?
--
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
On 7/12/2018 10:32 AM, Csaba Láng wrote: IOhannes,
thanks for your reply. There is no instruction about clicking in the right order, as Pd crashes at opening the patch itself. I am on 64bit version from binary.
Regarding the shortcuts, I had already this before on pd-extended, first time today it happened using 0.48.1. It must be something local then.
Popesz
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:26 PM IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig@iem.atmailto:zmoelnig@iem.at> wrote: On 07/12/2018 03:12 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
Dear list,
already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions, namely, none of the shortcuts work for me.
all of them work for me. i also suspect, that they work for most other people, as otherwise their would have been at least one other complaint.
Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash again and again.
again and again? how often can you crash Pd?
but seriously, i doesn't crash for me. also, i have no clue how you interact with the patch to make it crash. please add a step-by-step guide to your patch, so people can (try to) reproduce your problem. something like: #1 click here #2 click here #3 click here to make it crash
I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5
self compiled, or the binaries from miller's website, or from somewhere else? 64bit or 32bit?
gfamdsr IOhannes
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Thanks, that helped. Back to the malfunction part of my mail, which anyway could cause the strange behaving of the canvas size, is the next:
if I patch on a second screen and resizing the window, when crossing an object with the edge of the window, then the window jumps into a minimal size, which is only the minimise, maximise and close buttons, and when I release the mouse button, the whole window jumps down to the bottom of the main screen.
Let me know if anyone can this reproduce.
Popesz
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:03 AM Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com wrote:
@Csaba:
Your test patch does not crash my windows machine.
I have problems visualizing it because is outside of the bounds of my monitor.
Open your patch with a text editor and change the first line:
#N canvas 1306 -1075 590 601 10;
to
#N canvas 1 1 590 601 10;
May be is just that?
--
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
On 7/12/2018 10:32 AM, Csaba Láng wrote:
IOhannes,
thanks for your reply. There is no instruction about clicking in the right order, as Pd crashes at opening the patch itself. I am on 64bit version from binary.
Regarding the shortcuts, I had already this before on pd-extended, first time today it happened using 0.48.1. It must be something local then.
Popesz
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:26 PM IOhannes m zmölnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
On 07/12/2018 03:12 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
Dear list,
already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions,
namely,
none of the shortcuts work for me.
all of them work for me. i also suspect, that they work for most other people, as otherwise their would have been at least one other complaint.
Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash again and again.
again and again? how often can you crash Pd?
but seriously, i doesn't crash for me. also, i have no clue how you interact with the patch to make it crash. please add a step-by-step guide to your patch, so people can (try to) reproduce your problem. something like: #1 click here #2 click here #3 click here to make it crash
I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5
self compiled, or the binaries from miller's website, or from somewhere else? 64bit or 32bit?
gfamdsr IOhannes
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So it looks like the crash is caused by saving the patch on a second screen. After that I am unable to reopen the patch, and pd quits unexpectedly.. Changing the first line back as Lucas suggested, opens the patch again on the first screen. is it a bug?
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:49 PM Csaba Láng langcsaba@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, that helped. Back to the malfunction part of my mail, which anyway could cause the strange behaving of the canvas size, is the next:
if I patch on a second screen and resizing the window, when crossing an object with the edge of the window, then the window jumps into a minimal size, which is only the minimise, maximise and close buttons, and when I release the mouse button, the whole window jumps down to the bottom of the main screen.
Let me know if anyone can this reproduce.
Popesz
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:03 AM Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com wrote:
@Csaba:
Your test patch does not crash my windows machine.
I have problems visualizing it because is outside of the bounds of my monitor.
Open your patch with a text editor and change the first line:
#N canvas 1306 -1075 590 601 10;
to
#N canvas 1 1 590 601 10;
May be is just that?
--
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
On 7/12/2018 10:32 AM, Csaba Láng wrote:
IOhannes,
thanks for your reply. There is no instruction about clicking in the right order, as Pd crashes at opening the patch itself. I am on 64bit version from binary.
Regarding the shortcuts, I had already this before on pd-extended, first time today it happened using 0.48.1. It must be something local then.
Popesz
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:26 PM IOhannes m zmölnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
On 07/12/2018 03:12 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
Dear list,
already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions,
namely,
none of the shortcuts work for me.
all of them work for me. i also suspect, that they work for most other people, as otherwise their would have been at least one other complaint.
Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash
again
and again.
again and again? how often can you crash Pd?
but seriously, i doesn't crash for me. also, i have no clue how you interact with the patch to make it crash. please add a step-by-step guide to your patch, so people can (try to) reproduce your problem. something like: #1 click here #2 click here #3 click here to make it crash
I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5
self compiled, or the binaries from miller's website, or from somewhere else? 64bit or 32bit?
gfamdsr IOhannes
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just one last word, if I have the second screen anywhere else than above my main screen, and there is no negative number in the first line after saving, the patch opens normally like this: #N canvas 2527 187 908 638 10;
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 7:21 PM Csaba Láng langcsaba@gmail.com wrote:
So it looks like the crash is caused by saving the patch on a second screen. After that I am unable to reopen the patch, and pd quits unexpectedly.. Changing the first line back as Lucas suggested, opens the patch again on the first screen. is it a bug?
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:49 PM Csaba Láng langcsaba@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, that helped. Back to the malfunction part of my mail, which anyway could cause the strange behaving of the canvas size, is the next:
if I patch on a second screen and resizing the window, when crossing an object with the edge of the window, then the window jumps into a minimal size, which is only the minimise, maximise and close buttons, and when I release the mouse button, the whole window jumps down to the bottom of the main screen.
Let me know if anyone can this reproduce.
Popesz
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:03 AM Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com wrote:
@Csaba:
Your test patch does not crash my windows machine.
I have problems visualizing it because is outside of the bounds of my monitor.
Open your patch with a text editor and change the first line:
#N canvas 1306 -1075 590 601 10;
to
#N canvas 1 1 590 601 10;
May be is just that?
--
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
On 7/12/2018 10:32 AM, Csaba Láng wrote:
IOhannes,
thanks for your reply. There is no instruction about clicking in the right order, as Pd crashes at opening the patch itself. I am on 64bit version from binary.
Regarding the shortcuts, I had already this before on pd-extended, first time today it happened using 0.48.1. It must be something local then.
Popesz
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:26 PM IOhannes m zmölnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
On 07/12/2018 03:12 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
Dear list,
already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions,
namely,
none of the shortcuts work for me.
all of them work for me. i also suspect, that they work for most other people, as otherwise their would have been at least one other complaint.
Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash
again
and again.
again and again? how often can you crash Pd?
but seriously, i doesn't crash for me. also, i have no clue how you interact with the patch to make it crash. please add a step-by-step guide to your patch, so people can (try to) reproduce your problem. something like: #1 click here #2 click here #3 click here to make it crash
I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5
self compiled, or the binaries from miller's website, or from somewhere else? 64bit or 32bit?
gfamdsr IOhannes
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