Hi
I didn't see a french translation for pdpedia, so I tried it.
I think it's useful to link some terms to English terms because Pure data is written in english. For Exemple, inlet is "entrée". For French users we need the both terms. It would be better if the both terms appear together on the french page.
I didn't understand if we translate english pages to French or do what we want to do (organisation of Home pages, categories, etc...). If we follow english, we need to access to the last version easily form French pages, no ? If we have to verify the last version each time it's quite boring, no ?
What a SysOp have to do ? May be I can do the job.
#Traduction pdpedia en discussion
# wikipedia terms $stub = ""; # Je ne sais pas à quoi ça peut correspondre $template = "Gabarit"; #Je ne sais pas ... Template est aussi utilisé $category = "Catégorie"; $infobox = "Informations"; # A vérifier aussi
# pdpedia terms $objectclass = "Classe d'objets";
# page headers $inlets = "Entrées"; $outlets = "Sorties"; $arguments = "Arguments"; $messages = "Messages";
# infobox $name = "Nom"; $description = "Description"; $abbreviation = "Abbréviation"; $library = "Bibliothèque"; # "Librairy" est utilisé non ? $author = "Auteur"; $developer = "Développeur"; $releaseVersion = "Version"; # "Nouvelle version" ? $releaseDate = "Date"; $dependencies = "Dépendances"; $license = "Licence"; $website = "Site Web"; $programmingLanguage = "Langage de programmation"; $platform = "Plate-forme"; $operatingSystem = "Système d'exploitation"; $language = "Langage"; $dataType = "Type de données"; $distributions = "Distributions";
$status = "État"; $example image = "Image d'exemple"; $caption = "Légende"; $language = "Langage"; $helppatch name = "Nom du patch d'aide"; $cpu use index = "Utilisation du processeur";
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I don't speak French, but
Jérôme Abel wrote:
#Traduction pdpedia en discussion
# wikipedia terms $stub = ""; # Je ne sais pas à quoi ça peut correspondre
short articles in the French wikipedia use the term "ébauche", which means according to my online translation "draft". German wikipedia uses "unvollständig", meaning "incomplete".
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Thomas Mayer wrote:
$stub = ""; # Je ne sais pas à quoi ça peut correspondre
short articles in the French wikipedia use the term "ébauche", which means according to my online translation "draft". German wikipedia uses "unvollständig", meaning "incomplete".
I tend to think of a draft as something that could be as much as almost complete, or not, and a stub as just a beginning.
Ébauche can be translated as a sketch or an outline.
Stub often means placeholder (i don't know how to translate this).
Babelfish says "stub" -> "moignon" (!)
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Le lundi 08 octobre 2007 à 13:16 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit :
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Thomas Mayer wrote:
$stub = ""; # Je ne sais pas à quoi ça peut correspondre
short articles in the French wikipedia use the term "ébauche", which means according to my online translation "draft". German wikipedia uses "unvollständig", meaning "incomplete".
I tend to think of a draft as something that could be as much as almost complete, or not, and a stub as just a beginning.
Ébauche can be translated as a sketch or an outline.
Stub often means placeholder (i don't know how to translate this).
Babelfish says "stub" -> "moignon" (!)
Why not "Brouillon"? Something you draw in a rush "sur le coin de la table" and almost illegible?
"Ébauche" means something much more elaborated, although not completed yet.
My 2 thunes...
O.
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Why not "Brouillon"? Something you draw in a rush "sur le coin de la table" and almost illegible?
Yeah. We could also call it a napkin, while we're at it, but "brouillon" is plenty good.
"Ébauche" means something much more elaborated, although not completed yet.
I don't know. When I was in any grade from 3 to 13, they asked us to make a brouillon and then to recopy it "au propre". It ended up that my brouillon was often nearly as clean as the "propre" and certainly, by the time any other person saw it, it was finished. If I lacked time, the propre was not finished and the brouillon was. The recopy-rush was just a hand-demolishing experience. It's the sado-maso aspect of high school culture.
My 2 thunes...
Mes 2 piastres.
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On Oct 8, 2007, at 3:30 PM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Le lundi 08 octobre 2007 à 13:16 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit :
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Thomas Mayer wrote:
$stub = ""; # Je ne sais pas à quoi ça peut correspondre
short articles in the French wikipedia use the term "ébauche", which means according to my online translation "draft". German
wikipedia uses "unvollständig", meaning "incomplete".I tend to think of a draft as something that could be as much as
almost complete, or not, and a stub as just a beginning.Ébauche can be translated as a sketch or an outline.
Stub often means placeholder (i don't know how to translate this).
Babelfish says "stub" -> "moignon" (!)
Why not "Brouillon"? Something you draw in a rush "sur le coin de la table" and almost illegible?
"Ébauche" means something much more elaborated, although not completed yet.
My 2 thunes...
Wikipedia FR uses "ébauche" for stub and "Modèle" for template:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:%C3%89bauche
And "infobox" seems to be a universal term in Wikipedia:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox
.hc
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Wikipedia FR uses "ébauche" for stub and "Modèle" for template:
Let's keep "ébauche" then.
And "infobox" seems to be a universal term in Wikipedia:
Well, in plain French, it would rather read "boîte d'information". In current French: "Boîte d'info". Most people would understand "Infobox" though. Should we stick to the choices made by Wikipedia, although they're not always "correct" (in the sense they sometimes merely copy/paste the existing English word, counting on the fact the average francophone know enough of English to complete the scheme eg. "infobox", thus expanding "Franglish") or compete and try to forge something both plain French and adequate? There have been already a few successful attempts in the latter way: courriel, ordinateur, redingote...
++ O.
On Oct 10, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Wikipedia FR uses "ébauche" for stub and "Modèle" for template:
Let's keep "ébauche" then.
And "infobox" seems to be a universal term in Wikipedia:
Well, in plain French, it would rather read "boîte d'information". In current French: "Boîte d'info". Most people would understand "Infobox" though. Should we stick to the choices made by Wikipedia, although they're not always "correct" (in the sense they sometimes merely copy/paste the existing English word, counting on the fact the average francophone know enough of English to complete the scheme eg.
"infobox", thus expanding "Franglish") or compete and try to forge something
both plain French and adequate? There have been already a few successful attempts in the latter way: courriel, ordinateur, redingote...++ O.
Ultimately, which words are chosen are up to those who want to
contribute to that language site. Using wikipedia terms has a big
advantage since there will be a whole community with documentation,
policy, etc. that can be directly applied.
.hc
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Le 8 oct. 07 à 13:03, Jérôme Abel a écrit :
Hi
I didn't see a french translation for pdpedia, so I tried it.
I think it's useful to link some terms to English terms because
Pure data is written in english. For Exemple, inlet is "entrée". For French
users we need the both terms. It would be better if the both terms appear together on
the french page.I didn't understand if we translate english pages to French or do
what we want to do (organisation of Home pages, categories, etc...). If we
follow english, we need to access to the last version easily form French pages, no ?
If we have to verify the last version each time it's quite boring, no ?What a SysOp have to do ? May be I can do the job.
#Traduction pdpedia en discussion
# wikipedia terms $stub = ""; # Je ne sais pas à quoi ça peut correspondre
Ébauche ?
$template = "Gabarit"; #Je ne sais pas ... Template est aussi utilisé $category = "Catégorie"; $infobox = "Informations"; # A vérifier aussi
# pdpedia terms $objectclass = "Classe d'objets";
# page headers $inlets = "Entrées"; $outlets = "Sorties"; $arguments = "Arguments"; $messages = "Messages";
# infobox $name = "Nom"; $description = "Description"; $abbreviation = "Abbréviation"; $library = "Bibliothèque"; # "Librairy" est utilisé non ? $author = "Auteur"; $developer = "Développeur"; $releaseVersion = "Version"; # "Nouvelle version" ?
Dernière version ?
$releaseDate = "Date"; $dependencies = "Dépendances"; $license = "Licence"; $website = "Site Web"; $programmingLanguage = "Langage de programmation"; $platform = "Plate-forme"; $operatingSystem = "Système d'exploitation"; $language = "Langage"; $dataType = "Type de données"; $distributions = "Distributions";
$status = "État"; $example image = "Image d'exemple"; $caption = "Légende"; $language = "Langage"; $helppatch name = "Nom du patch d'aide"; $cpu use index = "Utilisation du processeur";
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Jérôme Abel wrote:
I think it's useful to link some terms to English terms because Pure data is written in english. For Exemple, inlet is "entrée".
$library = "Bibliothèque"; # "Librairy" est utilisé non ?
"Librairie" is often used because it's a lookalike. Technically it means "Bookstore" instead, but the distinction is not actually useful in its metaphor, so it could really be either. In my experience, I see "Bibliothèque" in books and software translations, and I hear or read "Librairie" in conversations.
$platform = "Plate-forme";
Current French seems to have dropped the hyphen on this, regardless of what the dictionary says.
$language = "Langage";
"Langage" is used for programming language, but "Langue" tends to be used for natural languages.
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After some messages, the new french translation.
Is it OK for everyone ?
Recent Changes:
- stub
- template
- language
- Infobox
Maybe "Site Web" is not French enought, what do you think about "Site ouèbe" ? It's quite a joke.
# wikipedia terms $stub = "Ébauche"; $template = "Modèle"; $category = "Catégorie"; $infobox = "Infobox";
# pdpedia terms $objectclass = "Classe d'objets";
# page headers $inlets = "Entrées"; $outlets = "Sorties"; $arguments = "Arguments"; $messages = "Messages";
# infobox $name = "Nom"; $description = "Description"; $abbreviation = "Abbréviation"; $library = "Bibliothèque"; $author = "Auteur"; $developer = "Développeur"; $releaseVersion = "Version"; $releaseDate = "Date"; $dependencies = "Dépendances"; $license = "Licence"; $website = "Site Web"; $programmingLanguage = "Langage de programmation"; $platform = "Plate-forme"; $operatingSystem = "Système d'exploitation"; $language = "Langue"; $dataType = "Type de données"; $distributions = "Distributions";
$status = "État"; $example image = "Image d'exemple"; $caption = "Légende"; $language = "Langue"; $helppatch name = "Nom du patch d'aide"; $cpu use index = "Utilisation du processeur";
It seems fine for me,
except perhaps Library -> Bibliothèque. I prefer the "Librairie" word, it seems more used in computing to me and keeps a strong correlation with the english word. Wikipedia says we can use both: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblioth%C3%A8que_logicielle ... it's a detail.
Cheers,
Nicolas
Jérôme Abel a écrit :
After some messages, the new french translation.
Is it OK for everyone ?
Recent Changes:
- stub
- template
- language
- Infobox
Maybe "Site Web" is not French enought, what do you think about "Site ouèbe" ? It's quite a joke.
# wikipedia terms $stub = "Ébauche"; $template = "Modèle"; $category = "Catégorie"; $infobox = "Infobox";
# pdpedia terms $objectclass = "Classe d'objets";
# page headers $inlets = "Entrées"; $outlets = "Sorties"; $arguments = "Arguments"; $messages = "Messages";
# infobox $name = "Nom"; $description = "Description"; $abbreviation = "Abbréviation"; $library = "Bibliothèque"; $author = "Auteur"; $developer = "Développeur"; $releaseVersion = "Version"; $releaseDate = "Date"; $dependencies = "Dépendances"; $license = "Licence"; $website = "Site Web"; $programmingLanguage = "Langage de programmation"; $platform = "Plate-forme"; $operatingSystem = "Système d'exploitation"; $language = "Langue"; $dataType = "Type de données"; $distributions = "Distributions";
$status = "État"; $example image = "Image d'exemple"; $caption = "Légende"; $language = "Langue"; $helppatch name = "Nom du patch d'aide"; $cpu use index = "Utilisation du processeur";
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 12:23 +0200, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
It seems fine for me,
except perhaps Library -> Bibliothèque. I prefer the "Librairie" word, it seems more used in computing to me and keeps a strong correlation with the english word. Wikipedia says we can use both: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblioth%C3%A8que_logicielle ... it's a detail
To me , it's wrong, une librairie => a bookshop It's a "faux-ami" and should be recognized as such! Computer world has a tendency to laziness... Let's stick to "Bibliothèque"
Jérôme Abel a écrit :
After some messages, the new french translation.
Is it OK for everyone ?
$infobox = "Infobox";
I dont like it, still we don't have anything better (as compact and accurate, "Boîte d'information" c'est relou)
$abbreviation = "Abbréviation";
un seul b : "Abréviation"
$library = "Bibliothèque";
:-)
$website = "Site Web";
pas mieux :-)
Hello les francophones
one single typo correction since Jerome Abel' latest proposal:
$abbreviation: Abréviation
Should we go for this then? Any major objection?
Olivier
# wikipedia terms $stub = "Ébauche"; $template = "Modèle"; $category = "Catégorie"; $infobox = "Infobox";
# pdpedia terms $objectclass = "Classe d'objets";
# page headers $inlets = "Entrées"; $outlets = "Sorties"; $arguments = "Arguments"; $messages = "Messages";
# infobox $name = "Nom"; $description = "Description"; $abbreviation = "Abbréviation"; $library = "Bibliothèque"; $author = "Auteur"; $developer = "Développeur"; $releaseVersion = "Version"; $releaseDate = "Date"; $dependencies = "Dépendances"; $license = "Licence"; $website = "Site Web"; $programmingLanguage = "Langage de programmation"; $platform = "Plate-forme"; $operatingSystem = "Système d'exploitation"; $language = "Langue"; $dataType = "Type de données"; $distributions = "Distributions";
$status = "État"; $example image = "Image d'exemple"; $caption = "Légende"; $language = "Langue"; $helppatch name = "Nom du patch d'aide"; $cpu use index = "Utilisation du processeur";
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 16:11 +0200, Olivier Heinry a écrit :
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 12:23 +0200, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
It seems fine for me,
except perhaps Library -> Bibliothèque. I prefer the "Librairie" word, it seems more used in computing to me and keeps a strong correlation with the english word. Wikipedia says we can use both: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblioth%C3%A8que_logicielle ... it's a detail
To me , it's wrong, une librairie => a bookshop It's a "faux-ami" and should be recognized as such! Computer world has a tendency to laziness... Let's stick to "Bibliothèque"
Jérôme Abel a écrit :
After some messages, the new french translation.
Is it OK for everyone ?
$infobox = "Infobox";
I dont like it, still we don't have anything better (as compact and accurate, "Boîte d'information" c'est relou)
$abbreviation = "Abbréviation";
un seul b : "Abréviation"
$library = "Bibliothèque";
:-)
$website = "Site Web";
pas mieux :-)
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I think you've been infected by English! ;) My online translator says
abbreviation = abréviation
.hc
On Oct 16, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Hello les francophones
one single typo correction since Jerome Abel' latest proposal:
$abbreviation: Abréviation
Should we go for this then? Any major objection?
Olivier
# wikipedia terms $stub = "Ébauche"; $template = "Modèle"; $category = "Catégorie"; $infobox = "Infobox";
# pdpedia terms $objectclass = "Classe d'objets";
# page headers $inlets = "Entrées"; $outlets = "Sorties"; $arguments = "Arguments"; $messages = "Messages";
# infobox $name = "Nom"; $description = "Description"; $abbreviation = "Abbréviation"; $library = "Bibliothèque"; $author = "Auteur"; $developer = "Développeur"; $releaseVersion = "Version"; $releaseDate = "Date"; $dependencies = "Dépendances"; $license = "Licence"; $website = "Site Web"; $programmingLanguage = "Langage de programmation"; $platform = "Plate-forme"; $operatingSystem = "Système d'exploitation"; $language = "Langue"; $dataType = "Type de données"; $distributions = "Distributions";
$status = "État"; $example image = "Image d'exemple"; $caption = "Légende"; $language = "Langue"; $helppatch name = "Nom du patch d'aide"; $cpu use index = "Utilisation du processeur";
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 16:11 +0200, Olivier Heinry a écrit :
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 12:23 +0200, Nicolas Montgermont a
écrit :It seems fine for me,
except perhaps Library -> Bibliothèque. I prefer the "Librairie" word, it seems more used in computing to
me and keeps a strong correlation with the english word. Wikipedia says we can use both: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblioth%C3%A8que_logicielle ... it's a detailTo me , it's wrong, une librairie => a bookshop It's a "faux-ami" and should be recognized as such! Computer world
has a tendency to laziness... Let's stick to "Bibliothèque"Jérôme Abel a écrit :
After some messages, the new french translation.
Is it OK for everyone ?
$infobox = "Infobox";
I dont like it, still we don't have anything better (as compact and accurate, "Boîte d'information" c'est relou)
$abbreviation = "Abbréviation";
un seul b : "Abréviation"
$library = "Bibliothèque";
:-)
$website = "Site Web";
pas mieux :-)
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Hi all,
I think that was the suggestion. The double 'bb' for that word is in the first list. I like the translations but don't know about 'infobox'...'boite d'infos' ou simplement 'infos'?
A bientot,
Alexandre
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 20:36:54 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I think you've been infected by English! ;) My online translator says
abbreviation = abréviation
.hc
On Oct 16, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Hello les francophones
one single typo correction since Jerome Abel' latest proposal:
$abbreviation: Abréviation
Should we go for this then? Any major objection?
Olivier
# wikipedia terms $stub = "Ébauche"; $template = "Modèle"; $category = "Catégorie"; $infobox = "Infobox";
# pdpedia terms $objectclass = "Classe d'objets";
# page headers $inlets = "Entrées"; $outlets = "Sorties"; $arguments = "Arguments"; $messages = "Messages";
# infobox $name = "Nom"; $description = "Description"; $abbreviation = "Abbréviation"; $library = "Bibliothèque"; $author = "Auteur"; $developer = "Développeur"; $releaseVersion = "Version"; $releaseDate = "Date"; $dependencies = "Dépendances"; $license = "Licence"; $website = "Site Web"; $programmingLanguage = "Langage de programmation"; $platform = "Plate-forme"; $operatingSystem = "Système d'exploitation"; $language = "Langue"; $dataType = "Type de données"; $distributions = "Distributions";
$status = "État"; $example image = "Image d'exemple"; $caption = "Légende"; $language = "Langue"; $helppatch name = "Nom du patch d'aide"; $cpu use index = "Utilisation du processeur";
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 16:11 +0200, Olivier Heinry a écrit :
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 12:23 +0200, Nicolas Montgermont a
écrit :
It seems fine for me,
except perhaps Library -> Bibliothèque. I prefer the "Librairie" word, it seems more used in computing to me and keeps a strong correlation with the english word. Wikipedia says we can use both: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblioth%C3%A8que_logicielle ... it's a detail
To me , it's wrong, une librairie => a bookshop It's a "faux-ami" and should be recognized as such! Computer world has a tendency to laziness... Let's stick to "Bibliothèque"
Jérôme Abel a écrit :
After some messages, the new french translation.
Is it OK for everyone ?
$infobox = "Infobox";
I dont like it, still we don't have anything better (as compact and accurate, "Boîte d'information" c'est relou)
$abbreviation = "Abbréviation";
un seul b : "Abréviation"
$library = "Bibliothèque";
:-) :
$website = "Site Web";
pas mieux :-)
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Hi Hans,
Apparently a consensus has been reached for the following on this side of the Atlantic. Maybe we should wait until they wake up overseas ;-)
++ O.
====
# wikipedia terms $stub = "Ébauche"; $template = "Modèle"; $category = "Catégorie"; $infobox = "Boîte d'info";
# pdpedia terms $objectclass = "Classe d'objets";
# page headers $inlets = "Entrées"; $outlets = "Sorties"; $arguments = "Arguments"; $messages = "Messages";
# infobox $name = "Nom"; $description = "Description"; $abbreviation = "Abréviation"; $library = "Bibliothèque"; $author = "Auteur"; $developer = "Développeur"; $releaseVersion = "Version"; $releaseDate = "Date"; $dependencies = "Dépendances"; $license = "Licence"; $website = "Site Web"; $programmingLanguage = "Langage de programmation"; $platform = "Plate-forme"; $operatingSystem = "Système d'exploitation"; $language = "Langue"; $dataType = "Type de données"; $distributions = "Distributions";
$status = "État"; $example image = "Image d'exemple"; $caption = "Légende"; $language = "Langue"; $helppatch name = "Nom du patch d'aide"; $cpu use index = "Utilisation du processeur";
Le mardi 16 octobre 2007 à 22:05 -0400, Alexandre Castonguay a écrit :
Hi all,
I think that was the suggestion. The double 'bb' for that word is in the first list. I like the translations but don't know about 'infobox'...'boite d'infos' ou simplement 'infos'?
A bientot,
Alexandre
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 20:36:54 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I think you've been infected by English! ;) My online translator says
abbreviation = abréviation
.hc
On Oct 16, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Hello les francophones
one single typo correction since Jerome Abel' latest proposal:
$abbreviation: Abréviation
Should we go for this then? Any major objection?
Olivier
# wikipedia terms $stub = "Ébauche"; $template = "Modèle"; $category = "Catégorie"; $infobox = "Infobox";
# pdpedia terms $objectclass = "Classe d'objets";
# page headers $inlets = "Entrées"; $outlets = "Sorties"; $arguments = "Arguments"; $messages = "Messages";
# infobox $name = "Nom"; $description = "Description"; $abbreviation = "Abbréviation"; $library = "Bibliothèque"; $author = "Auteur"; $developer = "Développeur"; $releaseVersion = "Version"; $releaseDate = "Date"; $dependencies = "Dépendances"; $license = "Licence"; $website = "Site Web"; $programmingLanguage = "Langage de programmation"; $platform = "Plate-forme"; $operatingSystem = "Système d'exploitation"; $language = "Langue"; $dataType = "Type de données"; $distributions = "Distributions";
$status = "État"; $example image = "Image d'exemple"; $caption = "Légende"; $language = "Langue"; $helppatch name = "Nom du patch d'aide"; $cpu use index = "Utilisation du processeur";
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 16:11 +0200, Olivier Heinry a écrit :
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 12:23 +0200, Nicolas Montgermont a
écrit :
It seems fine for me,
except perhaps Library -> Bibliothèque. I prefer the "Librairie" word, it seems more used in computing to me and keeps a strong correlation with the english word. Wikipedia says we can use both: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblioth%C3%A8que_logicielle ... it's a detail
To me , it's wrong, une librairie => a bookshop It's a "faux-ami" and should be recognized as such! Computer world has a tendency to laziness... Let's stick to "Bibliothèque"
Jérôme Abel a écrit :
After some messages, the new french translation.
Is it OK for everyone ?
$infobox = "Infobox";
I dont like it, still we don't have anything better (as compact and accurate, "Boîte d'information" c'est relou)
$abbreviation = "Abbréviation";
un seul b : "Abréviation"
$library = "Bibliothèque";
:-) :
$website = "Site Web";
pas mieux :-)
Alexandre Castonguay a écrit :
Hi all,
I think that was the suggestion. The double 'bb' for that word is in the first list. I like the translations but don't know about 'infobox'...'boite d'infos' ou simplement 'infos'?
A bientot,
Salut!
By the way, what is the "infobox" in pd? What about having this discussion on a more appropriated mailing-list,
http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/patching-in-tongues
like matju has suggested?
Le mercredi 17 octobre 2007 à 14:48 +0200, Patrice Colet a écrit :
Alexandre Castonguay a écrit :
Hi all,
I think that was the suggestion. The double 'bb' for that word is in the first list. I like the translations but don't know about 'infobox'...'boite d'infos' ou simplement 'infos'?
A bientot,
Salut!
By the way, what is the "infobox" in pd?
I guess we're talking about wikipedia's Infobox:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Infobox
What about having this discussion on a more appropriated mailing-list,
http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/patching-in-tongues
like matju has suggested?
It's been since that suggested to work in french on the following list :
http://artsens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pdpedia
and send a report a report or discuss more general translation topics in english there:
http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/patching-in-tongues
bye
O.
On Oct 26, 2007, at 5:02 AM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Le mercredi 17 octobre 2007 à 14:48 +0200, Patrice Colet a écrit :
Alexandre Castonguay a écrit :
Hi all,
I think that was the suggestion. The double 'bb' for that word is
in the first list. I like the translations but don't know about
'infobox'...'boite d'infos' ou simplement 'infos'?A bientot,
Salut!
By the way, what is the "infobox" in pd?
I guess we're talking about wikipedia's Infobox:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Infobox
What about having this discussion on a more appropriated mailing- list,
http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/patching-in- tongues
like matju has suggested?
It's been since that suggested to work in french on the following list :
It would be good to have this list on this page, the description
could be in French, of course:
http://puredata.info/community/lists/
It's a wiki page, so anyone logged in can edit it.
.hc
and send a report a report or discuss more general translation
topics in english there:http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/patching-in-tongues
bye
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Oops, sorry, that was the suggestion...
About Infobox, Wikipedia Français uses that word: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox
Sounds like this translation is ready to go, shall I run the import?
.hc
On Oct 16, 2007, at 10:05 PM, Alexandre Castonguay wrote:
Hi all,
I think that was the suggestion. The double 'bb' for that word is
in the first list. I like the translations but don't know about 'infobox'...'boite d'infos' ou simplement 'infos'?A bientot,
Alexandre
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 20:36:54 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I think you've been infected by English! ;) My online translator
saysabbreviation = abréviation
.hc
On Oct 16, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Hello les francophones
one single typo correction since Jerome Abel' latest proposal:
$abbreviation: Abréviation
Should we go for this then? Any major objection?
Olivier
# wikipedia terms $stub = "Ébauche"; $template = "Modèle"; $category = "Catégorie"; $infobox = "Infobox";
# pdpedia terms $objectclass = "Classe d'objets";
# page headers $inlets = "Entrées"; $outlets = "Sorties"; $arguments = "Arguments"; $messages = "Messages";
# infobox $name = "Nom"; $description = "Description"; $abbreviation = "Abbréviation"; $library = "Bibliothèque"; $author = "Auteur"; $developer = "Développeur"; $releaseVersion = "Version"; $releaseDate = "Date"; $dependencies = "Dépendances"; $license = "Licence"; $website = "Site Web"; $programmingLanguage = "Langage de programmation"; $platform = "Plate-forme"; $operatingSystem = "Système d'exploitation"; $language = "Langue"; $dataType = "Type de données"; $distributions = "Distributions";
$status = "État"; $example image = "Image d'exemple"; $caption = "Légende"; $language = "Langue"; $helppatch name = "Nom du patch d'aide"; $cpu use index = "Utilisation du processeur";
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 16:11 +0200, Olivier Heinry a écrit :
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 12:23 +0200, Nicolas Montgermont a
écrit :
It seems fine for me,
except perhaps Library -> Bibliothèque. I prefer the "Librairie" word, it seems more used in computing to me and keeps a strong correlation with the english word. Wikipedia says we can use both: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblioth%C3%A8que_logicielle ... it's a detail
To me , it's wrong, une librairie => a bookshop It's a "faux-ami" and should be recognized as such! Computer world has a tendency to laziness... Let's stick to "Bibliothèque"
Jérôme Abel a écrit :
After some messages, the new french translation.
Is it OK for everyone ?
$infobox = "Infobox";
I dont like it, still we don't have anything better (as compact and accurate, "Boîte d'information" c'est relou)
$abbreviation = "Abbréviation";
un seul b : "Abréviation"
$library = "Bibliothèque";
:-) :
$website = "Site Web";
pas mieux :-)
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I try to resume informations to see what we have to do.
Pdpedia translation
I did the template following wiki administrator instruction. I think It's OK. But You may check it here. http://wiki.puredata.info/fr/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox_Objectclass
In my opinion, We can translate website and infobox by "Site internet" and "Infos".
Now in the template it's "Site Web" and "Infobox".
But it's not very important now, isn't it ?
PdPedia Import
In the AllPages, we have a lot of names. So It seems work fine.
Thanks to Hans.
Pdpedia mailing list
We have two propositions : http://artsens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pdpedia http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/patching-in-tongues
May be we could discuss in french in the first one, and send a report message to the second one every week (or couple of week) to talk about our progression.
I think we need a specific list to organise work together and do not disturb all other contributors.
Pdpedia method
- start with Pd Vanilla : 20 objects by step. (in alphabetic order)
- check all french pd contributors.
PdPedia classification
Make easier navigation for artitic goal and newbie.
two propositions :
- see the classification in Processing web site (vidéo, audio, image, couleur,
...) http://processing.org/reference/index_ext.html http://processing.org/reference/libraries/index.html
- see the classifictaion in Pdmtl abstractions
http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/Contents
I don't understand how to make categorie in wikipedia...
I think, the first step is to complete pd-vanilla. After we can try to organize it into more sensitiv categorie.
The search engine seems hard to use, but may be someone work on it. It's quite hard to find objects ...
Le mercredi 17 octobre 2007 à 10:49 +0200, Jérôme Abel a écrit :
I try to resume informations to see what we have to do.
Pdpedia translation
I did the template following wiki administrator instruction. I think It's OK. But You may check it here. http://wiki.puredata.info/fr/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox_Objectclass
The {{{Nom}}} appears twice, except for that it looks fine
In my opinion, We can translate website and infobox by "Site internet" and "Infos".
Now in the template it's "Site Web" and "Infobox".
But it's not very important now, isn't it ?
Sorry for posting before checking my email again. Anyways, these are minor differencies which dont clutter the meaning
PdPedia Import
In the AllPages, we have a lot of names. So It seems work fine.
Pdpedia mailing list
We have two propositions : http://artsens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pdpedia http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/patching-in-tongues
May be we could discuss in french in the first one, and send a report message to the second one every week (or couple of week) to talk about our progression.
a report in english
I think we need a specific list to organise work together and do not disturb all other contributors.
I agree. the reason most people cancel their subscription is too much traffic.
Pdpedia method
- start with Pd Vanilla : 20 objects by step. (in alphabetic order)
- check all french pd contributors.
french-speaking ;-)
BTW, is it possible to display besides the name of the object, its status (still a stub , or "complete") and or the name of the latest contributor?
It would greatly speed up the group translation process to check at one glance (well, almost...) what's still to do. I'm not really experienced with wikimedia, so if anyone is....
++
O.
PdPedia classification
Make easier navigation for artitic goal and newbie.
two propositions :
- see the classification in Processing web site (vidéo, audio, image, couleur,
...) http://processing.org/reference/index_ext.html http://processing.org/reference/libraries/index.html
- see the classifictaion in Pdmtl abstractions
http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/Contents
I don't understand how to make categorie in wikipedia...
I think, the first step is to complete pd-vanilla. After we can try to organize it into more sensitiv categorie.
The search engine seems hard to use, but may be someone work on it. It's quite hard to find objects ...
Olivier Heinry a écrit :
PdPedia classification
Make easier navigation for artitic goal and newbie.
One important thing is to classify between actual and deprecated externals... Nothing is more frustrating than trying to compile and use an external... and finally seeing it was designed for pd 0.33 or to compile with an old gcc :) I don't know how to implement that, maybe all externals should start as deprecated and the status is changed as soon as someone has used it (leaving a comment in the edit page with working os and pd version) ??
Greetings,
Nicolas
PS: I've changed the title for a more general discussion...
On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Olivier Heinry a écrit :
PdPedia classification
Make easier navigation for artitic goal and newbie.
One important thing is to classify between actual and deprecated externals... Nothing is more frustrating than trying to compile and use an external... and finally seeing it was designed for pd 0.33 or to
compile with an old gcc :) I don't know how to implement that, maybe all externals should
start as deprecated and the status is changed as soon as someone has used it (leaving a comment in the edit page with working os and pd version) ??
Yeah, that's the idea of the status field. Perhaps when something is
marked deprecated, it should include the date and last Pd version of
the deprecation.
.hc
Greetings,
Nicolas
PS: I've changed the title for a more general discussion...
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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: Yeah, that's the idea of the status field. Perhaps when something is
marked deprecated, it should include the date and last Pd version of
the deprecation.
hmm, is an external that works fine with pd-0.33 "deprecated"? just because pd-0.33 might be considered "deprecated"? after all pd-0.33 is still available. in this case, pd-0.39 might be deprecated as well (even though the current pd-exteded is based on that). are all externals that work only with the latest release of pd-extended (but not with 0.40 or 0.41 (once this gets out)) to be deprecated then?
i would rather have a more positive field "works with:" (last known pd-version to work with)
how about the other way round? "requires:" (pd>0.30)
what with externals that change with Pd? (v1.0 works with pd-0.37..0.39; v2.0 works with 0.40..)
mfg.asdr IOhannes
On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:39 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: Yeah, that's the idea of the status field. Perhaps when something
is marked deprecated, it should include the date and last Pd
version of the deprecation.hmm, is an external that works fine with pd-0.33 "deprecated"? just because pd-0.33 might be considered "deprecated"? after all
pd-0.33 is still available. in this case, pd-0.39 might be deprecated as well (even though the
current pd-exteded is based on that). are all externals that work
only with the latest release of pd-extended (but not with 0.40 or
0.41 (once this gets out)) to be deprecated then?i would rather have a more positive field "works with:" (last known
pd-version to work with)how about the other way round? "requires:" (pd>0.30)
what with externals that change with Pd? (v1.0 works with pd-0.37..0.39; v2.0 works with 0.40..)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprecated
"deprecated" is a status that the author gives to code to say that
there is a better version available which should be used instead.
It's not a mark of whether something works or not.
.hc
mfg.asdr IOhannes
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meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds,
and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin
Luther King, Jr.
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprecated
"deprecated" is a status that the author gives to code to say that
there is a better version available which should be used instead.
It's not a mark of whether something works or not.
exactly my thinking.
however, you suggested the use of the "deprecated" flag to nicolas request about "designed for pd 0.33 or to compile with an old gcc". in my understanding, these are things that do not make an object "deprecated", and it seems like in your understanding too (or not?)
fmgadsr. IOhannes
On Oct 18, 2007, at 3:52 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprecated "deprecated" is a status that the author gives to code to say
that there is a better version available which should be used
instead. It's not a mark of whether something works or not.exactly my thinking.
however, you suggested the use of the "deprecated" flag to nicolas
request about "designed for pd 0.33 or to compile with an old gcc". in my understanding, these are things that do not make an object
"deprecated", and it seems like in your understanding too (or not?)fmgadsr. IOhannes
I read it as something that used to work but not longer does with
newer version. That would either be deprecated or abandoned.
.hc
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realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either
change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Oct 18, 2007, at 3:52 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprecated "deprecated" is a status that the author gives to code to say that
there is a better version available which should be used instead.
It's not a mark of whether something works or not.exactly my thinking.
however, you suggested the use of the "deprecated" flag to nicolas request about "designed for pd 0.33 or to compile with an old gcc". in my understanding, these are things that do not make an object "deprecated", and it seems like in your understanding too (or not?)
I read it as something that used to work but not longer does with newer version. That would either be deprecated or abandoned.
hmm, i still don't understand it (not that i want this thread to become to long; it probably isn't that interesting at all).
but: "It's not a mark of whether something works or not" (quoting your email 2007-10-17 19:14) and "something that used to work but not longer does with newer version" (quoting your email 2007-10-18 15:40) is - at least for me - mutually exclusive.
quoting the wikipedia-article you mentioned: "The deprecated feature still works in the current version of the software" is also in plain contradiction to your today's quote.
for me an example of a "deprecated" external is "OSCx"; but of course this is a bit problematic, since i think that only the person in charge of a piece of software can actually "deprecate" it. i haven't heard from jdl in a long time...
mfa.sdr IOhannes
On Oct 18, 2007, at 9:51 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Oct 18, 2007, at 3:52 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprecated "deprecated" is a status that the author gives to code to say
that there is a better version available which should be used
instead. It's not a mark of whether something works or not.exactly my thinking.
however, you suggested the use of the "deprecated" flag to
nicolas request about "designed for pd 0.33 or to compile with an
old gcc". in my understanding, these are things that do not make an object
"deprecated", and it seems like in your understanding too (or not?)I read it as something that used to work but not longer does with
newer version. That would either be deprecated or abandoned.hmm, i still don't understand it (not that i want this thread to
become to long; it probably isn't that interesting at all).but: "It's not a mark of whether something works or not" (quoting
your email 2007-10-17 19:14) and "something that used to work but
not longer does with newer version" (quoting your email 2007-10-18
15:40) is - at least for me - mutually exclusive.quoting the wikipedia-article you mentioned: "The deprecated feature still works in the current version of the
software" is also in plain contradiction to your today's quote.for me an example of a "deprecated" external is "OSCx"; but of
course this is a bit problematic, since i think that only the
person in charge of a piece of software can actually "deprecate" it. i haven't heard from jdl in a long time...
I am not always the best at words, but if you must pick them apart..
If something was deprecated in the distant past, chances are it
doesn't work with a current version. But if it was deprecated in the
current version, then it should work still.
I think the wikipedia page describes it well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprecated
.hc
mfa.sdr IOhannes
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exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an
idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps
it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into
the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess
himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
I read it as something that used to work but not longer does with
newer version. That would either be deprecated or abandoned.
That was my thinking, sorry for the approximate usage of "deprecated". This should be very useful to know until wich version an external is kwown to work and to have a simple classification like:
- working with last pd vanilla
- working with last pd extended
- others
I think that nobody really minds installing a newer version if you know the external you're looking for is working with it, but it's annoying when you have to use older ones. After is the question of the OS but it's an important step to know it's working with your version. We can also think of a "tag" if it's possible in wikis.
Greetings,
Nicolas
Nicolas Montgermont http://nicomon.basseslumieres.org
On Oct 19, 2007, at 7:51 AM, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
I read it as something that used to work but not longer does with newer version. That would either be deprecated or abandoned.
That was my thinking, sorry for the approximate usage of "deprecated". This should be very useful to know until wich version an external
is kwown to work and to have a simple classification like:
- working with last pd vanilla
- working with last pd extended
- others
I think that nobody really minds installing a newer version if you
know the external you're looking for is working with it, but it's
annoying when you have to use older ones. After is the question of the OS but it's an important step to know
it's working with your version. We can also think of a "tag" if it's possible in wikis.
I think something like this in the status box would be useful:
Status: deprecated (0.37.2)
or
Status: abandoned (0.33)
If there is more info, then a section could easily be added in the text.
.hc
Greetings,
Nicolas
Nicolas Montgermont http://nicomon.basseslumieres.org
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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Oct 19, 2007, at 7:51 AM, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
I read it as something that used to work but not longer does with
newer version. That would either be deprecated or abandoned.That was my thinking, sorry for the approximate usage of "deprecated".
just to make that clear: i did not try to be pedantic. but my command of the english language is surely worse than hans's, and i always want to take the opportunity to learn something. your definition of "deprecated" was contradictory for me (though it might not have been for others)
I think something like this in the status box would be useful:
Status: deprecated (0.37.2)
or
Status: abandoned (0.33)
i would be a bit more specific and use "pd-0.33" instead of just "0.33". it might as well be "pd-extended-0.34" (if the pd-extended version differs with pd-vanilla regarding the interoperability of the said thing) or "linux-2.2.18". there are manifold reasons why an external could be abandoned/deprecated or simply dysfuntional.
and (if i haven't said that before), i would suggest using a more positive wording like "works with: (pd<0.35)"
If there is more info, then a section could easily be added in the text.
definitely.
fgmasdr. IOhannes
On Oct 19, 2007, at 2:53 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Oct 19, 2007, at 7:51 AM, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
I read it as something that used to work but not longer does
with newer version. That would either be deprecated or abandoned.That was my thinking, sorry for the approximate usage of
"deprecated".just to make that clear: i did not try to be pedantic. but my command of the english language is surely worse than hans's,
and i always want to take the opportunity to learn something. your definition of "deprecated" was contradictory for me (though it
might not have been for others)
ok, no problem.
I think something like this in the status box would be useful: Status: deprecated (0.37.2) or Status: abandoned (0.33)
i would be a bit more specific and use "pd-0.33" instead of just
"0.33". it might as well be "pd-extended-0.34" (if the pd-extended version
differs with pd-vanilla regarding the interoperability of the said
thing) or "linux-2.2.18". there are manifold reasons why an external could be abandoned/ deprecated or simply dysfuntional.
I prefer if the -extended was in the version, since it's a distro
rather than a branch, fork, or separate program, i.e. 0.39.3-
extended. But I don't think it's too likely that something will be
deprecated in Pd but not in Pd-extended, but perhaps.
and (if i haven't said that before), i would suggest using a more
positive wording like "works with: (pd<0.35)"
I am not opposed to coming up with our own terminology. But when
there is existing terminology that works for us, I think it's good to
use it. I think "deprecated" could cover this.
.hc
If there is more info, then a section could easily be added in the
text.definitely.
fgmasdr. IOhannes
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hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie
On Oct 17, 2007, at 5:27 AM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Le mercredi 17 octobre 2007 à 10:49 +0200, Jérôme Abel a écrit :
I try to resume informations to see what we have to do.
Pdpedia translation
I did the template following wiki administrator instruction. I
think It's OK. But You may check it here. http://wiki.puredata.info/fr/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox_ObjectclassThe {{{Nom}}} appears twice, except for that it looks fine
In my opinion, We can translate website and infobox by "Site
internet" and "Infos".Now in the template it's "Site Web" and "Infobox".
But it's not very important now, isn't it ?
Sorry for posting before checking my email again. Anyways, these are minor differencies which dont clutter the meaning
PdPedia Import
In the AllPages, we have a lot of names. So It seems work fine.
Pdpedia mailing list
We have two propositions : http://artsens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pdpedia http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/patching-in- tongues
May be we could discuss in french in the first one, and send a
report message to the second one every week (or couple of week) to talk about our
progression.a report in english
I think we need a specific list to organise work together and do
not disturb all other contributors.I agree. the reason most people cancel their subscription is too much traffic.
Pdpedia method
- start with Pd Vanilla : 20 objects by step. (in alphabetic order)
- check all french pd contributors.
french-speaking ;-)
BTW, is it possible to display besides the name of the object, its status (still a stub , or "complete") and or the name of the latest contributor?
It would greatly speed up the group translation process to check at
one glance (well, almost...) what's still to do. I'm not really
experienced with wikimedia, so if anyone is....
There are a lot of tools for working with mediawiki, just think of
the quantity that wikipedia handles. There is lots of built-in
reporting, like history and categories. Check the "Special" pages.
Then there are things like a wikipedia mode for Emacs and other
editors, and RSS tools for editors.
.hc
++
O.
PdPedia classification
Make easier navigation for artitic goal and newbie.
two propositions :
- see the classification in Processing web site (vidéo, audio,
image, couleur, ...) http://processing.org/reference/index_ext.html http://processing.org/reference/libraries/index.html
- see the classifictaion in Pdmtl abstractions
http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/Contents
I don't understand how to make categorie in wikipedia...
I think, the first step is to complete pd-vanilla. After we can
try to organize it into more sensitiv categorie.The search engine seems hard to use, but may be someone work on
it. It's quite hard to find objects ...
'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said,
hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out
another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2", by Mohja Kahf
Hi all,
I agree with Jérôme's suggestions for the mailing lists so I'll henceforth post to pdpedia@artsens.org.
A bientot,
Alexandre
On Wednesday 17 October 2007 04:49:40 Jérôme Abel wrote:
I try to resume informations to see what we have to do.
Pdpedia translation
I did the template following wiki administrator instruction. I think It's OK. But You may check it here. http://wiki.puredata.info/fr/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox_Objectclass
In my opinion, We can translate website and infobox by "Site internet" and "Infos".
Now in the template it's "Site Web" and "Infobox".
But it's not very important now, isn't it ?
PdPedia Import
In the AllPages, we have a lot of names. So It seems work fine.
Thanks to Hans.
Pdpedia mailing list
We have two propositions : http://artsens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pdpedia http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/patching-in-tongues
May be we could discuss in french in the first one, and send a report message to the second one every week (or couple of week) to talk about our progression.
I think we need a specific list to organise work together and do not disturb all other contributors.
Pdpedia method
- start with Pd Vanilla : 20 objects by step. (in alphabetic order)
- check all french pd contributors.
PdPedia classification
Make easier navigation for artitic goal and newbie.
two propositions :
- see the classification in Processing web site (vidéo, audio, image,
couleur, ...) http://processing.org/reference/index_ext.html http://processing.org/reference/libraries/index.html
- see the classifictaion in Pdmtl abstractions
http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/Contents
I don't understand how to make categorie in wikipedia...
I think, the first step is to complete pd-vanilla. After we can try to organize it into more sensitiv categorie.
The search engine seems hard to use, but may be someone work on it. It's quite hard to find objects ...
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On Oct 17, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Alexandre Castonguay wrote:
Hi all,
I agree with Jérôme's suggestions for the mailing lists so I'll
henceforth post to pdpedia@artsens.org.A bientot,
Alexandre
On Wednesday 17 October 2007 04:49:40 Jérôme Abel wrote:
I try to resume informations to see what we have to do.
Pdpedia translation
I did the template following wiki administrator instruction. I
think It's OK. But You may check it here. http://wiki.puredata.info/fr/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox_Objectclass
This should be:
http://wiki.puredata.info/fr/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox_Classe_d%27objets
Then you can make Modèle:Infobox_Objectclass a redirect, if you want,
like this;
#redirect [[Modèle:Infobox_Classe_d'objets]]
In my opinion, We can translate website and infobox by "Site
internet" and "Infos".Now in the template it's "Site Web" and "Infobox".
But it's not very important now, isn't it ?
PdPedia Import
In the AllPages, we have a lot of names. So It seems work fine.
Thanks to Hans.
Marius and others did a ton of work on this also, I am just running
the imports, so I am currently more visible.
Pdpedia mailing list
We have two propositions : http://artsens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pdpedia http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/patching-in- tongues
May be we could discuss in french in the first one, and send a report message to the second one every week (or couple of week) to talk
about our progression.I think we need a specific list to organise work together and do not disturb all other contributors.
Pdpedia method
- start with Pd Vanilla : 20 objects by step. (in alphabetic order)
- check all french pd contributors.
PdPedia classification
Make easier navigation for artitic goal and newbie.
two propositions :
- see the classification in Processing web site (vidéo, audio, image,
couleur, ...) http://processing.org/reference/index_ext.html http://processing.org/reference/libraries/index.html
- see the classifictaion in Pdmtl abstractions
http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/Contents
I don't understand how to make categorie in wikipedia...
Just add a category tag to the page, like this:
[[Category:mynewcategory]]
The rest is automatic.
.hc
I think, the first step is to complete pd-vanilla. After we can
try to organize it into more sensitiv categorie.The search engine seems hard to use, but may be someone work on
it. It's quite hard to find objects ...
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Le 12 oct. 07 à 12:03, Jérôme Abel a écrit :
After some messages, the new french translation.
Is it OK for everyone ?
Recent Changes:
- stub
- template
- language
- Infobox
Maybe "Site Web" is not French enought, what do you think about
"Site ouèbe" ? It's quite a joke.# wikipedia terms $stub = "Ébauche"; $template = "Modèle"; $category = "Catégorie"; $infobox = "Infobox";
# pdpedia terms $objectclass = "Classe d'objets";
# page headers $inlets = "Entrées"; $outlets = "Sorties";
Pas de problème pour moi avec Inlets/Entrées Outlets/Sorties, ici la
version anglaise me va aussi bien que la française.
$arguments = "Arguments"; $messages = "Messages";
# infobox $name = "Nom"; $description = "Description"; $abbreviation = "Abbréviation"; $library = "Bibliothèque";
Bibliothèque/Librairie, c'est comme vous voulez.
$author = "Auteur"; $developer = "Développeur"; $releaseVersion = "Version";
Version actuelle ou Dernière version (juste pour préciser) ?
Jack
$releaseDate = "Date"; $dependencies = "Dépendances"; $license = "Licence"; $website = "Site Web"; $programmingLanguage = "Langage de programmation"; $platform = "Plate-forme"; $operatingSystem = "Système d'exploitation"; $language = "Langue"; $dataType = "Type de données"; $distributions = "Distributions";
$status = "État"; $example image = "Image d'exemple"; $caption = "Légende"; $language = "Langue"; $helppatch name = "Nom du patch d'aide"; $cpu use index = "Utilisation du processeur";
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