hi, i am honki. i do some designs about puredata.
illustration: http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/sets/72157607652279654/
gui: http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/4522863658/
i wnat to know where i can find pd log svg ?
thank.
honki
Hello Honki,
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:44 AM, red honki pdintw@gmail.com wrote:
hi, i am honki. i do some designs about puredata.
illustration: http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/sets/72157607652279654/
The designs are cool! I just don't understand how the VU meter is supposed to work - it looks like a spectrograph...
One (hard) aspect of GUI design in case of Pd is that the GUI widgets are provided by Tcl/Tk at the moment, which does not allow for such kind of skinning, afaik. There has been talk, however, about migrating to another GUI toolkit.
i wnat to know where i can find pd log svg ?
Can you reformulate the question please?
Andras
András Murányi wrote:
One (hard) aspect of GUI design in case of Pd is that the GUI widgets are provided by Tcl/Tk at the moment, which does not allow for such kind of skinning, afaik. There has been talk, however, about migrating to another GUI toolkit.
Really? Which one?
As a comment on the designs which graphically look very cool... this will probably be unpopular... but I *wouldn't* second segmented or curvy chords (like in some other popular dataflow programs) as I think they tend to make patches (and one's coding) less clear and in the end a bit "messy".. but it may be me, as I do tend to become messy and like something which constraints me not to :)
Lorenzo
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Lorenzo wrote:
As a comment on the designs which graphically look very cool... this will probably be unpopular... but I *wouldn't* second segmented or curvy chords (like in some other popular dataflow programs) as I think they tend to make patches (and one's coding) less clear and in the end a bit "messy".. but it may be me, as I do tend to become messy and like something which constraints me not to :)
I think that it's better when the will to organise things better comes from inside of you rather than from the software's inability. Because the software isn't «sufficiently unable» compared to all the things you better be doing to keep your patches clean.
I also think that even in clear and simple situations, straight wires are somewhat annoying, and so is the process of placing objects in ways that look nice with straight wires.
I also think that this is very far from being in the top most urgent issues in Pd...
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On Apr 16, 2010, at 5:45 AM, András Murányi wrote:
Hello Honki,
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:44 AM, red honki pdintw@gmail.com wrote: hi, i am honki. i do some designs about puredata.
illustration: http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/sets/72157607652279654/
gui: http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/4522863658/
The designs are cool! I just don't understand how the VU meter is supposed to work - it
looks like a spectrograph...One (hard) aspect of GUI design in case of Pd is that the GUI
widgets are provided by Tcl/Tk at the moment, which does not allow
for such kind of skinning, afaik. There has been talk, however,
about migrating to another GUI toolkit.
You can actually do quite a bit of 'skinning' with Tcl/Tk. And it
should be doable totally within a pd-gui-rewrite plugin. Checkout the
'gtklook-plugin.tcl' for a simple example.
.hc
i wnat to know where i can find pd log svg ?
Can you reformulate the question please?
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On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:44 AM, red honki pdintw@gmail.com wrote:
hi, i am honki. i do some designs about puredata.
illustration: http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/sets/72157607652279654/
The designs are cool! I just don't understand how the VU meter is supposed to work - it looks like a spectrograph...
One (hard) aspect of GUI design in case of Pd is that the GUI widgets are provided by Tcl/Tk at the moment, which does not allow for such kind of skinning, afaik. There has been talk, however, about migrating to another GUI toolkit.
You can actually do quite a bit of 'skinning' with Tcl/Tk. And it should be doable totally within a pd-gui-rewrite plugin. Checkout the 'gtklook-plugin.tcl' for a simple example.
.hc
Well that one is a must have indeed, yet it's 'skinning' not skinning. Skinning for me starts with bitmaps or svg being applied.
Andras
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, András Murányi wrote:
One (hard) aspect of GUI design in case of Pd is that the GUI widgets are provided by Tcl/Tk at the moment, which does not allow for such kind of skinning, afaik.
Tcl/Tk up to 8.4 allow some amount of configuration... at least much more than has ever been used by anyone in pd.tk.
Tcl/Tk introduced the TkTile toolkit, for which I've heard that the big new feature is that you can skin it. I haven't tried it myself. Meanwhile, I'm using Pd-Extended with Tcl/Tk 8.5 while, officially, this very same version of Pd-Extended is said to "not support" Tcl/Tk 8.5. On top of that, Miller still wants to support Tcl/Tk 8.3 for some upcoming releases, and such things that were already becoming obsolete in 2003.
There has been talk, however, about migrating to another GUI toolkit.
Talk, talk, talk, it's only talk. Arguments, babble, bicker bicker bicker, brouhaha, it's only talk.
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On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 04:30:52PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, András Murányi wrote:
One (hard) aspect of GUI design in case of Pd is that the GUI widgets are provided by Tcl/Tk at the moment, which does not allow for such kind of skinning, afaik.
Tcl/Tk up to 8.4 allow some amount of configuration... at least much more than has ever been used by anyone in pd.tk.
Tcl/Tk introduced the TkTile toolkit, for which I've heard that the big new feature is that you can skin it. I haven't tried it myself. Meanwhile, I'm using Pd-Extended with Tcl/Tk 8.5 while, officially, this very same version of Pd-Extended is said to "not support" Tcl/Tk 8.5. On top of that, Miller still wants to support Tcl/Tk 8.3 for some upcoming releases, and such things that were already becoming obsolete in 2003.
There has been talk, however, about migrating to another GUI toolkit.
Talk, talk, talk, it's only talk. Arguments, babble, bicker bicker bicker, brouhaha, it's only talk.
Elephant Talk!
Matju, how about an elephant talk synth? may be it could also be a default patch loaded at start, a pd-jingle, hey! :)) why not, ..hm now Fripp makes sounds for M$ ..but well may be we could ask Him to do some for us too? pd could have some sound effects ..like add an object could play a bubelly sound and deleted object shall play an appocaliptic trumpet :))
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