hello!!!
curtis roads computer music tutorial
or
dodge and jerse computer music:synthesis,composition,performance
???
i'd be glad if someone tells me which is overall better...
thanx
Hallo, mählpeak hat gesagt: // mählpeak wrote:
curtis roads computer music tutorial
No.
dodge and jerse computer music:synthesis,composition,performance
Yes.
i'd be glad if someone tells me which is overall better...
Both are very different.
You didn't say, what you are looking for in these books, which could be important. I have both, but so far only read the Dodge/Jerse completely, the Roads only about 300 pages. The Roads is more like a reference book. It also contains a lot of references like: "To find out more about speech synthesis read [1], [2] and [3]." Not that helpful for beginners, IMO. The Dogde/Jerse however is a wonderful introduction to a lot of synthesis techniques, with enough easily understandable explanations to make you want to go patching right away. So read the Dodge first, if that is what you look for, buy the Roads if you want to have a general compendium which is a bit short on deeper explanations unfortunatly.
My 2C.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
On Monday 18 October 2004 17:18, Frank Barknecht wrote:
in fact i'm a newbie myself, have no problems with math though...
i think i'll settle on dodge/jerse at last.
thanks for the help pals!
bike
Hallo,
mδhlpeak hat gesagt: // mδhlpeak wrote:
curtis roads computer music tutorial
No.
dodge and jerse computer music:synthesis,composition,performance
Yes.
i'd be glad if someone tells me which is overall better...
Both are very different.
You didn't say, what you are looking for in these books, which could be important. I have both, but so far only read the Dodge/Jerse completely, the Roads only about 300 pages. The Roads is more like a reference book. It also contains a lot of references like: "To find out more about speech synthesis read [1], [2] and [3]." Not that helpful for beginners, IMO. The Dogde/Jerse however is a wonderful introduction to a lot of synthesis techniques, with enough easily understandable explanations to make you want to go patching right away. So read the Dodge first, if that is what you look for, buy the Roads if you want to have a general compendium which is a bit short on deeper explanations unfortunatly.
My 2C.
Ciao
I like that one for technical questions: http://www.dspguide.com/ btw, Miller/s Book project is at http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques.htm marius.
----- Original Message ----- From: "mahlpeak" pmelidis@inf.uth.gr To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [PD] which book
On Monday 18 October 2004 17:18, Frank Barknecht wrote:
in fact i'm a newbie myself, have no problems with math though...
i think i'll settle on dodge/jerse at last.
thanks for the help pals!
bike
Hallo,
mählpeak hat gesagt: // mählpeak wrote:
curtis roads computer music tutorial
No.
dodge and jerse computer music:synthesis,composition,performance
Yes.
i'd be glad if someone tells me which is overall better...
Both are very different.
You didn't say, what you are looking for in these books, which could be important. I have both, but so far only read the Dodge/Jerse completely, the Roads only about 300 pages. The Roads is more like a reference book. It also contains a lot of references like: "To find out more about speech synthesis read [1], [2] and [3]." Not that helpful for beginners, IMO. The Dogde/Jerse however is a wonderful introduction to a lot of synthesis techniques, with enough easily understandable explanations to make you want to go patching right away. So read the Dodge first, if that is what you look for, buy the Roads if you want to have a general compendium which is a bit short on deeper explanations unfortunatly.
My 2C.
Ciao
Ditto what Frank says, of course.
But more: the Roads book is very good, and comprehensive, but written with a specialist in mind. And the specialist that Roads is thinking of has a good background in math. [Which I don't! ;-) ] However, if what you need is a lot of formulae for computing different types of DSP synthesis, the Roads book will give you more. What's more, the chapters on granular synthesis and Fast Fourier Transformation in the Dodge book read like abstracts of the same chapetsr in Roads. So if these topics interest you the most, I would go direct to the source.
On the whole, however, I found the Dodge book more readable and better for beginners' understanding of sound and its digital representations. If I were teaching a class, I would require either one or the other of the students, but in the end let them choose if they want the more or less technical one. The material covered is roughly the smae in either case.
BTW, don't overlook Roads' "Microsound" as well, if granular synthesis interests you. It is a bit more "reader friendly" than the CMT, and has information which cannot be easily found elsewhere.
best, d.
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, mählpeak hat gesagt: // mählpeak wrote:
curtis roads computer music tutorial
No.
dodge and jerse computer music:synthesis,composition,performance
Yes.
i'd be glad if someone tells me which is overall better...
Both are very different.
You didn't say, what you are looking for in these books, which could be important. I have both, but so far only read the Dodge/Jerse completely, the Roads only about 300 pages. The Roads is more like a reference book. It also contains a lot of references like: "To find out more about speech synthesis read [1], [2] and [3]." Not that helpful for beginners, IMO. The Dogde/Jerse however is a wonderful introduction to a lot of synthesis techniques, with enough easily understandable explanations to make you want to go patching right away. So read the Dodge first, if that is what you look for, buy the Roads if you want to have a general compendium which is a bit short on deeper explanations unfortunatly.
My 2C.
Ciao
Hallo, derek holzer hat gesagt: // derek holzer wrote:
BTW, don't overlook Roads' "Microsound" as well, if granular synthesis interests you. It is a bit more "reader friendly" than the CMT, and has information which cannot be easily found elsewhere.
And it was just published as a cheaper paperback edition - withouth CD, though. How "important" would those, who know the older "Microsound", judge the CD?
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
hi
( 04.10.19 16:43 +0200 ) Frank Barknecht:
And it was just published as a cheaper paperback edition - withouth CD, though. How "important" would those, who know the older "Microsound", judge the CD?
pretty important in 'hearing' the sounds. the math is not on the disk, so if you are persitent and careful, you should be able to DIY.
john saylor wrote:
hi
( 04.10.19 16:43 +0200 ) Frank Barknecht:
And it was just published as a cheaper paperback edition - withouth CD, though. How "important" would those, who know the older "Microsound", judge the CD?
pretty important in 'hearing' the sounds. the math is not on the disk, so if you are persitent and careful, you should be able to DIY.
Yes, the CD is what really brings life to the different methods which Roads describes. Not "essential", but certainly a valuable addition. Too bad MIT Press cheaped out on the paperback. I'm sure there's a few places out there where the tracks might be shared, though ;-)
d.
Hallo, derek holzer hat gesagt: // derek holzer wrote:
john saylor wrote:
( 04.10.19 16:43 +0200 ) Frank Barknecht:
And it was just published as a cheaper paperback edition - withouth CD, though. How "important" would those, who know the older "Microsound", judge the CD?
pretty important in 'hearing' the sounds. the math is not on the disk, so if you are persitent and careful, you should be able to DIY.
Yes, the CD is what really brings life to the different methods which Roads describes. Not "essential", but certainly a valuable addition. Too bad MIT Press cheaped out on the paperback.
I checked again, and while it was missing in the preorder page at amazon, according to http://mitpress.mit.edu the paperback editition does include the CD!
Then it's a deal: $28 compared to $50 for the hardcover.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
mählpeak wrote:
hello!!!
curtis roads computer music tutorial
or
dodge and jerse computer music:synthesis,composition,performance
I haven't read the other, but Dodge is great. Covers a lot of material while keeping it easy to understand.
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i'd be glad if someone tells me which is overall better...
thanx
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