Thks
I tried today's version and it starts up but it crashes the whole
system...
is there any "final" extended version that works native on intel?
On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Ilja Dmitricenko wrote:
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 11:34 +0000, Miguel Cardoso wrote:
hi list
i have an intel mac and tried to install the nightly build (Pd-0-1.39.2-extended-2006-12-05-macosx104-i386.dmg) whenever i start the app it doesn't run. I only see its icon jumping once or twice in the dock
has it occurred to anyone? how can I solve it?
you need to see the output in the terminal in osx it's easy - just open the terminal and drop the icon on it , probably press ^J or 'return' on the keyboard :~
that will tell you why the app doesnt start maybe you'r missin' some libs or something else, or may be there is a sort of segfault. try next day's build if you brave, but those are for bug hunters, while you don't appeare to b 1 of 'em.
just the package which is marked stable.
good luk!
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On 12/6/06, Miguel Cardoso mcardoso@soopa.org wrote:
Thks
I tried today's version and it starts up but it crashes the whole system... is there any "final" extended version that works native on intel?
A kernel panic? Does the screen go grey and tell you to restart?
The crash logs for pd are in your home Library folder. Look in ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/
no! it just freezes after a while... even the dock freezes....
sometimes I can startup the application but i can't create or open
patches... the scrollers become slow, until it freezes.
On Dec 6, 2006, at 4:51 PM, chris clepper wrote:
On 12/6/06, Miguel Cardoso <mcardoso@soopa.org > wrote: Thks
I tried today's version and it starts up but it crashes the whole system... is there any "final" extended version that works native on intel?
A kernel panic? Does the screen go grey and tell you to restart?
The crash logs for pd are in your home Library folder. Look in ~/ Library/Logs/CrashReporter/
Try opening up the /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and running
this in the Terminal window. Then copy and paste the text from that
Window and respond to this thread with it
/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/Contents/Resources/ bin/pd -stderr
Some people have had good luck with test4:
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers-0.39.2-extended-test4.html
.hc
On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote:
Thks
I tried today's version and it starts up but it crashes the whole
system... is there any "final" extended version that works native on intel?On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Ilja Dmitricenko wrote:
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 11:34 +0000, Miguel Cardoso wrote:
hi list
i have an intel mac and tried to install the nightly build (Pd-0-1.39.2-extended-2006-12-05-macosx104-i386.dmg) whenever i start the app it doesn't run. I only see its icon jumping once or twice in the dock
has it occurred to anyone? how can I solve it?
you need to see the output in the terminal in osx it's easy - just open the terminal and drop the icon on it , probably press ^J or 'return' on the keyboard :~
that will tell you why the app doesnt start maybe you'r missin' some libs or something else, or may be there is a sort of segfault. try next day's build if you brave, but those are
for bug hunters, while you don't appeare to b 1 of 'em.just the package which is marked stable.
good luk!
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If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of
exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an
idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps
it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into
the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess
himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson
hello Hans
Im currently using your extended test4, but Id like to use an intel
version.
I ran pd throught the terminal and got this error:
machine:~ machine$ /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/
Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr
sh: line 1: /Applications/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish: No such file
or directory
Went looking for with, but can only find early versions of it (none
for intel)
tcl/tk 8.4.11 for jaguar at http://simulistics.com/tcltk/
should i install it?
thanks
On Dec 6, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Try opening up the /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and running
this in the Terminal window. Then copy and paste the text from
that Window and respond to this thread with it/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/Contents/Resources/ bin/pd -stderr
Some people have had good luck with test4:
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers-0.39.2-extended-test4.html
.hc
On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote:
Thks
I tried today's version and it starts up but it crashes the whole
system... is there any "final" extended version that works native on intel?On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Ilja Dmitricenko wrote:
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 11:34 +0000, Miguel Cardoso wrote:
hi list
i have an intel mac and tried to install the nightly build (Pd-0-1.39.2-extended-2006-12-05-macosx104-i386.dmg) whenever i start the app it doesn't run. I only see its icon
jumping once or twice in the dockhas it occurred to anyone? how can I solve it?
you need to see the output in the terminal in osx it's easy - just open the terminal and drop the icon on it , probably press ^J or 'return' on the keyboard :~
that will tell you why the app doesnt start maybe you'r missin' some libs or something else, or may be there
is a sort of segfault. try next day's build if you brave, but those
are for bug hunters, while you don't appeare to b 1 of 'em.just the package which is marked stable.
good luk!
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If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others
of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power
called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long
as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces
itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot
dispossess himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson
This one works for me:
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2006-12-06/
.hc
On Dec 6, 2006, at 3:42 PM, Miguel Cardoso wrote:
hello Hans
Im currently using your extended test4, but Id like to use an intel
version. I ran pd throught the terminal and got this error:machine:~ machine$ /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/ Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr sh: line 1: /Applications/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish: No such
file or directoryWent looking for with, but can only find early versions of it (none
for intel) tcl/tk 8.4.11 for jaguar at http://simulistics.com/tcltk/ should i install it?thanks
On Dec 6, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Try opening up the /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and
running this in the Terminal window. Then copy and paste the text
from that Window and respond to this thread with it/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/Contents/Resources/ bin/pd -stderr
Some people have had good luck with test4:
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers-0.39.2-extended-test4.html
.hc
On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote:
Thks
I tried today's version and it starts up but it crashes the whole
system... is there any "final" extended version that works native on intel?On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Ilja Dmitricenko wrote:
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 11:34 +0000, Miguel Cardoso wrote:
hi list
i have an intel mac and tried to install the nightly build (Pd-0-1.39.2-extended-2006-12-05-macosx104-i386.dmg) whenever i start the app it doesn't run. I only see its icon
jumping once or twice in the dockhas it occurred to anyone? how can I solve it?
you need to see the output in the terminal in osx it's easy - just open the terminal and drop the icon on it , probably press ^J or 'return' on the keyboard :~
that will tell you why the app doesnt start maybe you'r missin' some libs or something else, or may be there
is a sort of segfault. try next day's build if you brave, but those
are for bug hunters, while you don't appeare to b 1 of 'em.just the package which is marked stable.
good luk!
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If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others
of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power
called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as
long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it
forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver
cannot dispossess himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson
As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be
glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and
this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin
hallo hans,
this one is at the least the first i download that gets really
started. however it's impossible to open a new empty patcher or to
load any patcher. there aren't any error messages, the main windows
is there and it says GEM has been loaded. but no reaction to most of
the menu items (about works, preferences don't work, file new doesn't
work, file open doesn't work, file message works, file quit doesn't
work, help html + browser work).
ciao, -sciss-
Am 06.12.2006 um 21:58 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
This one works for me:
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2006-12-06/
.hc
Arg, I guess its stuck in "works for me" mode, maybe I forgot to turn
that off. Try again tomorrow (2006-12-07).
.hc
On Dec 6, 2006, at 4:35 PM, Sciss wrote:
hallo hans,
this one is at the least the first i download that gets really
started. however it's impossible to open a new empty patcher or to
load any patcher. there aren't any error messages, the main windows
is there and it says GEM has been loaded. but no reaction to most
of the menu items (about works, preferences don't work, file new
doesn't work, file open doesn't work, file message works, file quit
doesn't work, help html + browser work).ciao, -sciss-
Am 06.12.2006 um 21:58 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
This one works for me:
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2006-12-06/
.hc
All information should be free. - the hacker ethic
/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-07.app/Contents/Resources/
bin/pd -stderr
sh: line 1: /Applications/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish: No such file
or directory
stuck in "works for me" mode? : )
still with the problems described by sciss
best miguel
On Dec 7, 2006, at 12:51 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Arg, I guess its stuck in "works for me" mode, maybe I forgot to
turn that off. Try again tomorrow (2006-12-07)..hc
On Dec 6, 2006, at 4:35 PM, Sciss wrote:
hallo hans,
this one is at the least the first i download that gets really
started. however it's impossible to open a new empty patcher or to
load any patcher. there aren't any error messages, the main
windows is there and it says GEM has been loaded. but no reaction
to most of the menu items (about works, preferences don't work,
file new doesn't work, file open doesn't work, file message works,
file quit doesn't work, help html + browser work).ciao, -sciss-
Am 06.12.2006 um 21:58 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
This one works for me:
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2006-12-06/
.hc
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On 07/12/2006, at 1.51, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Try again tomorrow (2006-12-07).
It seams the same. Fx. it doesn't open patches, neither from the help-
browser (that does open) or the file browser (that also does open).
There come no output when clicking the DIO button. It eats +/-55% cpu
time, normally Pd eats 10-15 % if it doesn't do anything.
Attached is the output i get when launching the nightly builds from
Terminal with Verbose enabled and -stderr as the startup flag - both
set via the prefs panel. By ignoring the "verbose" output it boils
down to: "audio I/O stuck... closing audio".
That leads me to a question/observation. It seam that the "debugging"
method of starting Pd form Terminal with the -stderr flag does not
help and does not give the same output as if the -stderr flag is set
via the prefs panel.
When -stderr is not set in the pref panel, 'Pd -stderr' and 'Pd'
executed from Terminal result in the same output, which is sent to
the Terminal window.
When -stderr is set in the pref panel, 'Pd -stderr' and 'Pd' executed
from Terminal also result in the same output, which is sent to the Pd
window.
Not only is the output sent to different places it is also not the
same. And the info of the one is a subset of the other, which is when
-stderr was set in the prefs panel. Hence my conclusion is that, If
the -stderr flag are to be of any use, it is to be set via the pref
panel?
I have two more "observations". The fist being that when one shut
this nightly build, it doesn't shut completely. When launched there
are two processes 'Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-07' and 'pd'. When
closed only the Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-07 gets shot, while the
other is very much alive (and eating cpu all it can).
The other observation is that the this intel build bundle has intel
build external (zexy/sum.pd_darwin are fx intel build (only)) while
fx. Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-07.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd-0.39.2-
extended-2006-12-07 is a socalled universal binary build. Further
more, the ppc counterpart has ppc build externals (again, fx. zexy/
sum.pd_darwin) and ppc build (not universal build) Pd-0.39.2-
extended-2006-12-07 binary.
Ok, my guess is that it's a bug in the Apple-included Tcl/Tk.
Everything works fine on PowerPc. So I am trying ActiveTcl 8.4.14,
which is a universal binary.
Give the 2006-12-12 build a shot and see what happens. (hopefully it
builds sucessfully tonight).
.hc
On Dec 7, 2006, at 3:50 PM, Steffen wrote:
On 07/12/2006, at 1.51, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Try again tomorrow (2006-12-07).
It seams the same. Fx. it doesn't open patches, neither from the
help-browser (that does open) or the file browser (that also does
open). There come no output when clicking the DIO button. It eats
+/-55% cpu time, normally Pd eats 10-15 % if it doesn't do anything.Attached is the output i get when launching the nightly builds from
Terminal with Verbose enabled and -stderr as the startup flag -
both set via the prefs panel. By ignoring the "verbose" output it
boils down to: "audio I/O stuck... closing audio".That leads me to a question/observation. It seam that the
"debugging" method of starting Pd form Terminal with the -stderr
flag does not help and does not give the same output as if the - stderr flag is set via the prefs panel.When -stderr is not set in the pref panel, 'Pd -stderr' and 'Pd'
executed from Terminal result in the same output, which is sent to
the Terminal window. When -stderr is set in the pref panel, 'Pd -stderr' and 'Pd'
executed from Terminal also result in the same output, which is
sent to the Pd window.Not only is the output sent to different places it is also not the
same. And the info of the one is a subset of the other, which is
when -stderr was set in the prefs panel. Hence my conclusion is
that, If the -stderr flag are to be of any use, it is to be set via
the pref panel?I have two more "observations". The fist being that when one shut
this nightly build, it doesn't shut completely. When launched there
are two processes 'Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-07' and 'pd'. When
closed only the Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-07 gets shot, while the
other is very much alive (and eating cpu all it can).The other observation is that the this intel build bundle has intel
build external (zexy/sum.pd_darwin are fx intel build (only)) while
fx. Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-07.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd-0.39.2- extended-2006-12-07 is a socalled universal binary build. Further
more, the ppc counterpart has ppc build externals (again, fx. zexy/ sum.pd_darwin) and ppc build (not universal build) Pd-0.39.2- extended-2006-12-07 binary.<nb-1206-startuptranscript.txt> <nb-1207-startuptranscript.txt>
Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic.
It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and
expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war
on terrorism. - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom
You machine already has Wish and Tcl/Tk. Look in /System/Library/Frameworks/
On 12/6/06, Miguel Cardoso mcardoso@soopa.org wrote:
hello Hans
Im currently using your extended test4, but Id like to use an intel version. I ran pd throught the terminal and got this error:
machine:~ machine$ /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/ Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr sh: line 1: /Applications/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish: No such file or directory
Went looking for with, but can only find early versions of it (none for intel) tcl/tk 8.4.11 for jaguar at http://simulistics.com/tcltk/ should i install it?
thanks
On Dec 6, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Try opening up the /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and running this in the Terminal window. Then copy and paste the text from that Window and respond to this thread with it
/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/Contents/Resources/ bin/pd -stderr
Some people have had good luck with test4:
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers-0.39.2-extended-test4.html
.hc
On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote:
Thks
I tried today's version and it starts up but it crashes the whole system... is there any "final" extended version that works native on intel?
On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Ilja Dmitricenko wrote:
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 11:34 +0000, Miguel Cardoso wrote:
hi list
i have an intel mac and tried to install the nightly build (Pd-0-1.39.2-extended-2006-12-05-macosx104-i386.dmg) whenever i start the app it doesn't run. I only see its icon jumping once or twice in the dock
has it occurred to anyone? how can I solve it?
you need to see the output in the terminal in osx it's easy - just open the terminal and drop the icon on it , probably press ^J or 'return' on the keyboard :~
that will tell you why the app doesnt start maybe you'r missin' some libs or something else, or may be there is a sort of segfault. try next day's build if you brave, but those are for bug hunters, while you don't appeare to b 1 of 'em.
just the package which is marked stable.
good luk!
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On Wed, December 6, 2006 9:42 pm, Miguel Cardoso wrote:
Im currently using your extended test4, but Id like to use an intel version.
You can choose (so far) to use this build:
http://puredata.info/Members/stffn/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-10-31-macosx104-i...
Luke also did a mac intel build. I don't recall where it's located, but i think he succeded in building HID - i didn't.
On Wed, December 6, 2006 9:03 pm, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Try opening up the /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and running this in the Terminal window. Then copy and paste the text from that Window and respond to this thread with it
I will do when i come home (from this Mac-less student-lacking lab job (= wast of time but easy money)).
Just to say: I had a quick go this morning while stuffing breakfast into me head, and i had similar expiriences as Sciss.
On a side note: How do one alt-ctrl-F1 (to log in and kill processes that locks the system whill X/Aqua don't respomd) in Mac OS X? And how to ensure that an application (or no applications) gets to eat the entire cpu-beef?
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chris clepper -
Hans-Christoph Steiner -
Miguel Cardoso -
Sciss -
Steffen