hi all,
is there a way to download all the netpd-patches (http://www.netpd.org/NetpdPatches)? maybe a release each week/month?
pat
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 22:15 -0500, patrick wrote:
is there a way to download all the netpd-patches (http://www.netpd.org/NetpdPatches)? maybe a release each week/month?
hi the best option surely is to run netpd - start _chat.pd and open _creator.pd - and ask someone online to open all interesting patches. the wiki on netpd.org is mainly intended to provide some documentation and of course you could also download all single patches from there, but this is a pain. it would be too much work to maintain such an universal package, when _creator.pd does all the dirty work. i hope you'll have fun with netpd.
cheers roman
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On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 10:40:39AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
i hope you'll have fun with netpd.
I just wanted to jump in on this thread to say that I find netpd to be one of the most exciting things I have seen in electronic music ever. Thanks so much Roman and all the other contributors for making it. You guys are really pushing new frontiers with this. If anyone hasn't tried it yet, you should get into it!
Best,
Chris.
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Yeah, I've been looking at it a lot recently. Even if your not into music (and right now really only techno music) net-pd sets a really good standard for pd programming and encapsulation, and probably represents the best of UI practice using only the intrinsic components. I'm thinking next year I will start to move the music synth (toys and gizmos) part of my work towards net-pd because it represents an important versioning commonality to share patches which the wider Pd lacks. There's still room for improving it too. I have some ideas I'm mulling over to do with distributed composition which I hope to add some day and net-pd seems the obvious place to try these out. If you're in London today at the Openlab3 meet we will hopefully get to try out setup based on OSC to perform with simple distributed synthesisers on a LAN.
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:18:02 +0800 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx wrote:
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 10:40:39AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
i hope you'll have fun with netpd.
I just wanted to jump in on this thread to say that I find netpd to be one of the most exciting things I have seen in electronic music ever. Thanks so much Roman and all the other contributors for making it. You guys are really pushing new frontiers with this. If anyone hasn't tried it yet, you should get into it!
Best,
Chris.
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ola padawan, i've made already a netpd-patch with some of your sound-design stuff. (with a lot of [switch~]es in it)
---im a big fan off your tut's and gizmos!
[cheers~]
moritz
(the attached patch works only with netpd)
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:07:54 +0000 Von: padawan12 padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk An: pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] netpd download all patch
Yeah, I've been looking at it a lot recently. Even if your not into music (and right now really only techno music) net-pd sets a really good standard for pd programming and encapsulation, and probably represents the best of UI practice using only the intrinsic components. I'm thinking next year I will start to move the music synth (toys and gizmos) part of my work towards net-pd because it represents an important versioning commonality to share patches which the wider Pd lacks. There's still room for improving it too. I have some ideas I'm mulling over to do with distributed composition which I hope to add some day and net-pd seems the obvious place to try these out. If you're in London today at the Openlab3 meet we will hopefully get to try out setup based on OSC to perform with simple distributed synthesisers on a LAN.
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:18:02 +0800 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx wrote:
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 10:40:39AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
i hope you'll have fun with netpd.
I just wanted to jump in on this thread to say that I find netpd to be one of the most exciting things I have seen in electronic music ever. Thanks so much Roman and all the other contributors for making it. You guys are really pushing new frontiers with this. If anyone hasn't tried it yet, you should get into it!
Best,
Chris.
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hm, attached package should have (i hope) all abstractions for playstation.pd
[eo~]
moritz
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:50:03 +0100 Von: "moritz w." erstens@gmx.ch An: padawan12 padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk, pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] netpd download all patch
ola padawan, i've made already a netpd-patch with some of your sound-design stuff. (with a lot of [switch~]es in it)
---im a big fan off your tut's and gizmos!
[cheers~]
moritz
(the attached patch works only with netpd)
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:07:54 +0000 Von: padawan12 padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk An: pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] netpd download all patch
Yeah, I've been looking at it a lot recently. Even if your not into music (and right now really only techno music) net-pd sets a really good standard for pd programming and encapsulation, and probably represents the best of UI practice using only the intrinsic components. I'm thinking next year I will start to move the music synth (toys and gizmos) part of my work towards net-pd because it represents an important versioning commonality to share patches which the wider Pd lacks. There's still room for improving it too. I have some ideas I'm mulling over to do with distributed composition which I hope to add some day and net-pd seems the obvious place to try these out. If you're in London today at the Openlab3 meet we will hopefully get to try out setup based on OSC to perform with simple distributed synthesisers on a LAN.
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:18:02 +0800 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx wrote:
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 10:40:39AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
i hope you'll have fun with netpd.
I just wanted to jump in on this thread to say that I find netpd to be one of the most exciting things I have seen in electronic music ever. Thanks so much Roman and all the other contributors for making it. You guys are really pushing new frontiers with this. If anyone hasn't
tried
it yet, you should get into it!
Best,
Chris.
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Great stuff. I need to study those and see how you hook the interface level up to net-pd. Just a question of finding the time so I'm very pleased you already converted some of mine to net-pd. How do they perform?
Is there a net-pd howto or something? How does net-pd handle time/synchronous alignment and that sort of thing? btw, I listened to some output from net-pd radio and I hear some very impressive jams happening. How do you record them? Does each machine run all the synths (replicated version of one setup) or do they pipe audio back to a node that does the recording. Much I don't understand.
best,
Andy
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:50:03 +0100 "moritz w." erstens@gmx.ch wrote:
ola padawan, i've made already a netpd-patch with some of your sound-design stuff. (with a lot of [switch~]es in it)
---im a big fan off your tut's and gizmos!
[cheers~]
moritz
(the attached patch works only with netpd)
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:07:54 +0000 Von: padawan12 padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk An: pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] netpd download all patch
Yeah, I've been looking at it a lot recently. Even if your not into music (and right now really only techno music) net-pd sets a really good standard for pd programming and encapsulation, and probably represents the best of UI practice using only the intrinsic components. I'm thinking next year I will start to move the music synth (toys and gizmos) part of my work towards net-pd because it represents an important versioning commonality to share patches which the wider Pd lacks. There's still room for improving it too. I have some ideas I'm mulling over to do with distributed composition which I hope to add some day and net-pd seems the obvious place to try these out. If you're in London today at the Openlab3 meet we will hopefully get to try out setup based on OSC to perform with simple distributed synthesisers on a LAN.
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:18:02 +0800 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx wrote:
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 10:40:39AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
i hope you'll have fun with netpd.
I just wanted to jump in on this thread to say that I find netpd to be one of the most exciting things I have seen in electronic music ever. Thanks so much Roman and all the other contributors for making it. You guys are really pushing new frontiers with this. If anyone hasn't tried it yet, you should get into it!
Best,
Chris.
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padawan12 wrote:
Is there a net-pd howto or something?
Yeah, there's simple examples in the netpd distribution, it's quite easy.
How does net-pd handle time/synchronous alignment and that sort of thing?
I'm not sure...
How do you record them? Does each machine run all the synths (replicated version of one setup)
Yes. So each machine hears (hopefully) the same sounds, without needing huge amounts of bandwidth for streaming audio and the associated delays etc. And it also means that each connected machine's user can access all the controls of the whole setup.
best,
Andy
Claude
hi padawan,
it seems that i missed your original post, sorry for the late answer...
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 14:17 +0000, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
padawan12 wrote:
Is there a net-pd howto or something?
Yeah, there's simple examples in the netpd distribution, it's quite easy.
How does net-pd handle time/synchronous alignment and that sort of thing?
actually, it is not garantueed that all clients are in sync. netpd just tries to make sure, that:
a) all clients have the same patches open (even the same version) b) all instances of every patch always have the same state
theoretically, that should garantuee that every client hears exactly the same. practically, there is a shift in time sometimes due to that fact, that dsp stops, when loading heavy patches or the buffer of [netclient] is full (e.g. when somebody requests a dump from you). yet, all timebased patches (e.g. sequencers) get the clock from the master.pd-patch. every instance of master.pd runs on its own, but with the same settings (e.g. bpm). when someone hits 'start', all masters start to run (with the lag of the network, of course), but there is no mechanism (yet), that guarantuess that all stay in sync.
How do you record them? Does each machine run all the synths (replicated version of one setup)
Yes. So each machine hears (hopefully) the same sounds, without needing huge amounts of bandwidth for streaming audio and the associated delays etc. And it also means that each connected machine's user can access all the controls of the whole setup.
exactly. it is just like mididata is sent over the net. that implies, that only generative 'instruments' can be used, but no samplers (there is no implementation to share audiosamples over netpd yet). also, if two or more people are in the same room, only one of them needs to switch dsp on, nevertheless the others still can interact.
i hope, some points are more clear now and i would really enjoy if some of your amazing patches get ported to netpd.
grÃŒsse roman
best,
Andy
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On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 03:12 +0000, padawan12 wrote:
Great stuff. I need to study those and see how you hook the interface level up to net-pd. Just a question of finding the time so I'm very pleased you already converted some of mine to net-pd. How do they perform?
Is there a net-pd howto or something?
yes, there is a very cheap little tutorial in netpd (netpd/tut)
How does net-pd handle time/synchronous alignment and that sort of thing? btw, I listened to some output from net-pd radio and I hear some very impressive jams happening. How do you record them?
there is a simple patch called 'recorder' ( http://www.netpd.org/recorder ) , which records the output of the netpd-mixer called 'mx' (http://www.netpd.org/mx ). so, recording happens on the client side. anyway it is better to record in the same instance of pd, cause like that no dropouts and glitches are recorded.
Does each machine run all the synths (replicated version of one setup) or do they pipe audio back to a node that does the recording. Much I don't understand.
best,
Andy
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:50:03 +0100 "moritz w." erstens@gmx.ch wrote:
ola padawan, i've made already a netpd-patch with some of your sound-design stuff. (with a lot of [switch~]es in it)
---im a big fan off your tut's and gizmos!
[cheers~]
moritz
(the attached patch works only with netpd)
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:07:54 +0000 Von: padawan12 padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk An: pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] netpd download all patch
Yeah, I've been looking at it a lot recently. Even if your not into music (and right now really only techno music) net-pd sets a really good standard for pd programming and encapsulation, and probably represents the best of UI practice using only the intrinsic components. I'm thinking next year I will start to move the music synth (toys and gizmos) part of my work towards net-pd because it represents an important versioning commonality to share patches which the wider Pd lacks. There's still room for improving it too. I have some ideas I'm mulling over to do with distributed composition which I hope to add some day and net-pd seems the obvious place to try these out. If you're in London today at the Openlab3 meet we will hopefully get to try out setup based on OSC to perform with simple distributed synthesisers on a LAN.
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:18:02 +0800 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx wrote:
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 10:40:39AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
i hope you'll have fun with netpd.
I just wanted to jump in on this thread to say that I find netpd to be one of the most exciting things I have seen in electronic music ever. Thanks so much Roman and all the other contributors for making it. You guys are really pushing new frontiers with this. If anyone hasn't tried it yet, you should get into it!
Best,
Chris.
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