Hi,
the German public radio station "Deutschlandfunk" today aired a short feature about Pd by Hubert Steins. It's available on the station's website here: http://ondemand-mp3.dradio.de/file/dradio/2006/10/16/dlf_200610161551.mp3
The mp3 file may be deleted about 3 months from now, so grab it while it's hot.
It's in German of course.
Ciao
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Frank Barknecht schrieb:
http://ondemand-mp3.dradio.de/file/dradio/2006/10/16/dlf_200610161551.mp3 It's in German of course.
that one is good: "so gehört pd [...] neben der ebenfalls grafisch orientierten ***vorläufersoftware max msp*** und dem rein textbasierten supercollider zu den drei beliebtesten programmen [...]"
~ so pd belongs besides the also grafically orientated "predecessor" software max/msp and textbased supercollider to the three most popular programs [...] m.
indeed very funny. i was flabbergasted to here this interpretation. but is it that far from the truth ? anyways.. nice broadcast. felt very good. to me it made pd sound like its so cooking hot. well deserved.
alexandre
On 16/10/06, Marius Schebella marius.schebella@gmail.com wrote:
Frank Barknecht schrieb:
http://ondemand-mp3.dradio.de/file/dradio/2006/10/16/dlf_200610161551.mp3
It's in German of course.
that one is good: "so gehört pd [...] neben der ebenfalls grafisch orientierten ***vorläufersoftware max msp*** und dem rein textbasierten supercollider zu den drei beliebtesten programmen [...]"
~ so pd belongs besides the also grafically orientated "predecessor" software max/msp and textbased supercollider to the three most popular programs [...] m.
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alexandre r. decoupigny schrieb:
indeed very funny. i was flabbergasted to here this interpretation. but is it that far from the truth ?
It's as true as a Volkswagen is the successor of a Toyota, because they both have an engine and wheels.
greetings, Thomas
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alexandre r. decoupigny schrieb:
indeed very funny. i was flabbergasted to here this interpretation. but is it that far from the truth ?
It's as true as a Volkswagen is the successor of a Toyota, because they both have an engine and wheels.
Well, not quite. I mean, I agree that "sucessor" is not the correct expression here - especially when the author talks about "Max/MSP" and not of "Max" - but we have a family of software consisting of products like Pd, Max, jMax etc. where the original Max as written (mainly?) by Miller came first, and all others can be viewed as a kind of successors. (Of course all this is complicated even more by Pd being the base for the MSP-part of Max/MSP.)
Maybe like modern cars by Volkswagen and Toyota could be viewed as successors of the classic Benz automobile.
I like the comparison that Pd is like Max' younger, uglier, but smarter sister. But I don't know where I've heard this the first time. Any ideas?
Ciao
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the answer to both questions is in the archive under a thread called
max msp vs pd
On 17-Oct-06, at 3:12 PM, day 5 wrote:
alright, i just gotta know...
what is jMax in relation to this metaphor?
./d5
On Oct 17, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
I like the comparison that Pd is like Max' younger, uglier, but smarter sister. But I don't know where I've heard this the first
time. Any ideas?
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what is jMax in relation to this metaphor?
-For all to see: http://knorretje.hku.nl/wiki/jMax-english
AvS
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote:
what is jMax in relation to this metaphor?
-For all to see: http://knorretje.hku.nl/wiki/jMax-english
Funny, I'd have thought that MXJ (spelled MJX in that article) would've been useless in porting jMax4 (FTM) to Max/MSP.
I say that because FTM was written in C. Maybe that there's a JAVA part in it that I haven't noticed, but I don't particularly recall that part because I've never really tried to use jMax4.
The article is correct in saying that it wasn't compatible enough with jMax2.5. I think that I received the worst part of it, as the .jmax file conversion to jMax4 seemed to break specifically on patches that use GridFlow, not even counting that supporting GridFlow's syntax in jMax4 was impossible until a much-too-late 4.1 release. It's probably not a personal attack, but it doesn't matter whether it is, it still bombed me hard enough, that from that point I encouraged every jMax user to switch to PureData.
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Frank Barknecht wrote:
I like the comparison that Pd is like Max' younger, uglier, but smarter sister. But I don't know where I've heard this the first time. Any ideas?
It's surely been said a lot in a lot of different ways, but if I were you, I wouldn't try to remember where/when you've first heard it. I don't think that it's a so valuable comparison, and to be honest, I'd rather not have that kind of comparison used in our promotion.
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On 10/17/06, Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org wrote:
I like the comparison that Pd is like Max' younger, uglier, but smarter sister. But I don't know where I've heard this the first time. Any ideas?
And it can cook.
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Thomas Grill wrote:
alexandre r. decoupigny schrieb:
indeed very funny. i was flabbergasted to here this interpretation. but is it that far from the truth ?
It's as true as a Volkswagen is the successor of a Toyota, because they both have an engine and wheels.
You wrote Flext, you should be aware of how Max/MSP and PureData are alike. Besides, everyone here knows (or should know) that Max and PureData are projects that were mostly programmed by the same person.
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Congrats on the piece! Nice sounds you were making. Weren't you on
the radio before talking about Pd? I think you are the official
radio representative of the Pure Data community. ;)
.hc
On Oct 16, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hi,
the German public radio station "Deutschlandfunk" today aired a short feature about Pd by Hubert Steins. It's available on the station's website here: http://ondemand-mp3.dradio.de/file/dradio/2006/10/16/ dlf_200610161551.mp3
The mp3 file may be deleted about 3 months from now, so grab it while it's hot.
It's in German of course.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
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