Yes, it is a current limitation.
For now, you can tell them to double click on any folder name at any level in the browser and it should open that folder within their system's file browser. This is true with any entry in the help browser, ie. double click on am html file and it should open in the system's default web browser.
I intend to look at the PR again and see if it's possible to resolve the visual issues. The better solution is to encase the columns within a horz scroller because the next complaint/observation will certainly be "I can open 10+ browser cols but the whole window no longer fits on my screen!"
On Aug 13, 2022, at 8:59 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 06:49:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Sebastian Shader <sebfumaster@aol.com mailto:sebfumaster@aol.com> To: "composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com mailto:composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com" <composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com mailto:composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com>, "pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" <pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Subject: Re: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser Message-ID: <1300995413.1266499.1660373348161@mail.yahoo.com mailto:1300995413.1266499.1660373348161@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,??? You can see this PR: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1240 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1240 unfortunately I'm not sure how to resolve the flickering issue mentioned. However, I included the PR in my pd fork regardless: https://github.com/sebshader/pdnext/releases https://github.com/sebshader/pdnext/releases(if on linux you have to compile yourself.. use the current master branch)alternatively, you might be able to just take helpbrowser.tcl from my PR and move it into your pd install location (wherever the .tcl files are)
-seb
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Burt <composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com mailto:composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com> To: Pd-list <pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Sent: Fri, Aug 12, 2022 10:45 am Subject: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser
Is the Help Browser limited to showing only six panels? or is this a limitation of one's desktop environment? I'm considering switching from pd-tutorial to using the else library for teaching Pd fundamentals, but the else library has directories like else/Live-Electronics-Tutorial/Part.01-The.Basics/01-Pd.Quickstart/2.Syntax/3.Send-Receive/ and then my Help Browser won't show the contents of the next directory. I'm using Pop_OS whose COSMIC desktop is based on Gnome. Thanks for any suggestions. I really want to make this really easy for the students. Sam
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
In the PR there should be a horizontal scrollbar already. The max number of panes displayed at a time should be around 5 (with a scrollbar on the bottom)(this can be changed by setting ::helpbrowser::maxcols to something other than 4 though) -seb
-----Original Message----- From: Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com To: composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com Cc: Pd-List pd-list@lists.iem.at; Sebastian Shader sebfumaster@aol.com Sent: Sun, Aug 14, 2022 7:25 am Subject: Re: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser
Yes, it is a current limitation. For now, you can tell them to double click on any folder name at any level in the browser and it should open that folder within their system's file browser. This is true with any entry in the help browser, ie. double click on am html file and it should open in the system's default web browser. I intend to look at the PR again and see if it's possible to resolve the visual issues. The better solution is to encase the columns within a horz scroller because the next complaint/observation will certainly be "I can open 10+ browser cols but the whole window no longer fits on my screen!"
On Aug 13, 2022, at 8:59 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote: Message: 3 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 06:49:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Sebastian Shader sebfumaster@aol.com To: "composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com" composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com, "pd-list@lists.iem.at" pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser Message-ID: 1300995413.1266499.1660373348161@mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,??? You can see this PR: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1240 unfortunately I'm not sure how to resolve the flickering issue mentioned. However, I included the PR in my pd fork regardless: https://github.com/sebshader/pdnext/releases(if on linux you have to compile yourself.. use the current master branch)alternatively, you might be able to just take helpbrowser.tcl from my PR and move it into your pd install location (wherever the .tcl files are)
-seb
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Burt composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com To: Pd-list pd-list@lists.iem.at Sent: Fri, Aug 12, 2022 10:45 am Subject: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser
Is the Help Browser limited to showing only six panels? or is this a limitation of one's desktop environment? I'm considering switching from pd-tutorial to using the else library for teaching Pd fundamentals, but the else library has directories like else/Live-Electronics-Tutorial/Part.01-The.Basics/01-Pd.Quickstart/2.Syntax/3.Send-Receive/ and then my Help Browser won't show the contents of the next directory. I'm using Pop_OS whose COSMIC desktop is based on Gnome. Thanks for any suggestions. I really want to make this really easy for the students. Sam
--------Dan Wilcox@danomatikadanomatika.comrobotcowboy.com
Ok, cool. I will try it.
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Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Aug 14, 2022, at 7:52 PM, Sebastian Shader sebfumaster@aol.com wrote:
In the PR there should be a horizontal scrollbar already. The max number of panes displayed at a time should be around 5 (with a scrollbar on the bottom) (this can be changed by setting ::helpbrowser::maxcols to something other than 4 though)
-seb
-----Original Message----- From: Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com To: composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com Cc: Pd-List pd-list@lists.iem.at; Sebastian Shader sebfumaster@aol.com Sent: Sun, Aug 14, 2022 7:25 am Subject: Re: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser
Yes, it is a current limitation.
For now, you can tell them to double click on any folder name at any level in the browser and it should open that folder within their system's file browser. This is true with any entry in the help browser, ie. double click on am html file and it should open in the system's default web browser.
I intend to look at the PR again and see if it's possible to resolve the visual issues. The better solution is to encase the columns within a horz scroller because the next complaint/observation will certainly be "I can open 10+ browser cols but the whole window no longer fits on my screen!"
On Aug 13, 2022, at 8:59 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 06:49:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Sebastian Shader sebfumaster@aol.com To: "composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com" composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com, "pd-list@lists.iem.at" pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser Message-ID: 1300995413.1266499.1660373348161@mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,??? You can see this PR: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1240 unfortunately I'm not sure how to resolve the flickering issue mentioned. However, I included the PR in my pd fork regardless: https://github.com/sebshader/pdnext/releases(if on linux you have to compile yourself.. use the current master branch)alternatively, you might be able to just take helpbrowser.tcl from my PR and move it into your pd install location (wherever the .tcl files are)
-seb
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Burt composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com To: Pd-list pd-list@lists.iem.at Sent: Fri, Aug 12, 2022 10:45 am Subject: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser
Is the Help Browser limited to showing only six panels? or is this a limitation of one's desktop environment? I'm considering switching from pd-tutorial to using the else library for teaching Pd fundamentals, but the else library has directories like else/Live-Electronics-Tutorial/Part.01-The.Basics/01-Pd.Quickstart/2.Syntax/3.Send-Receive/ and then my Help Browser won't show the contents of the next directory. I'm using Pop_OS whose COSMIC desktop is based on Gnome. Thanks for any suggestions. I really want to make this really easy for the students. Sam
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
Thanks for the responses.
Opening the folder in the OS is probably the best way around this but it does introduce some unpredictable issues outside of pd. Hopefully, Windows and MacOS users won't have any trouble opening a pd file from Explorer or Finder. I had to do a little research to make the adjustments to my .desktop file for the tweak that would allow pd as an option for "Open with".
On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, 10:25 AM Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, it is a current limitation.
For now, you can tell them to double click on any folder name at any level in the browser and it should open that folder within their system's file browser. This is true with any entry in the help browser, ie. double click on am html file and it should open in the system's default web browser.
I intend to look at the PR again and see if it's possible to resolve the visual issues. The better solution is to encase the columns within a horz scroller because the next complaint/observation will certainly be "I can open 10+ browser cols but the whole window no longer fits on my screen!"
On Aug 13, 2022, at 8:59 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 06:49:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Sebastian Shader sebfumaster@aol.com To: "composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com" composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com, "pd-list@lists.iem.at" pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser Message-ID: 1300995413.1266499.1660373348161@mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,??? You can see this PR: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1240 unfortunately I'm not sure how to resolve the flickering issue mentioned. However, I included the PR in my pd fork regardless: https://github.com/sebshader/pdnext/releases(if on linux you have to compile yourself.. use the current master branch)alternatively, you might be able to just take helpbrowser.tcl from my PR and move it into your pd install location (wherever the .tcl files are)
-seb
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Burt composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com To: Pd-list pd-list@lists.iem.at Sent: Fri, Aug 12, 2022 10:45 am Subject: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser
Is the Help Browser limited to showing only six panels? or is this a limitation of one's desktop environment? I'm considering switching from pd-tutorial to using the else library for teaching Pd fundamentals, but the else library has directories like
else/Live-Electronics-Tutorial/Part.01-The.Basics/01-Pd.Quickstart/2.Syntax/3.Send-Receive/
and then my Help Browser won't show the contents of the next directory. I'm using Pop_OS whose COSMIC desktop is based on Gnome. Thanks for any suggestions. I really want to make this really easy for the students. Sam
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
There is a PR with free desktop files for Pd, I think adapted from extended: https://github.com/pure-data/pd-icon/pull/6 https://github.com/pure-data/pd-icon/pull/6
This PR needs to be redone to the main repo, but maybe the files are helpful, at least in testing.
On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:17 AM, Samuel Burt composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the responses.
Opening the folder in the OS is probably the best way around this but it does introduce some unpredictable issues outside of pd. Hopefully, Windows and MacOS users won't have any trouble opening a pd file from Explorer or Finder. I had to do a little research to make the adjustments to my .desktop file for the tweak that would allow pd as an option for "Open with".
On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, 10:25 AM Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote: Yes, it is a current limitation.
For now, you can tell them to double click on any folder name at any level in the browser and it should open that folder within their system's file browser. This is true with any entry in the help browser, ie. double click on am html file and it should open in the system's default web browser.
I intend to look at the PR again and see if it's possible to resolve the visual issues. The better solution is to encase the columns within a horz scroller because the next complaint/observation will certainly be "I can open 10+ browser cols but the whole window no longer fits on my screen!"
On Aug 13, 2022, at 8:59 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 06:49:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Sebastian Shader <sebfumaster@aol.com mailto:sebfumaster@aol.com> To: "composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com mailto:composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com" <composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com mailto:composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com>, "pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" <pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Subject: Re: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser Message-ID: <1300995413.1266499.1660373348161@mail.yahoo.com mailto:1300995413.1266499.1660373348161@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,??? You can see this PR: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1240 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1240 unfortunately I'm not sure how to resolve the flickering issue mentioned. However, I included the PR in my pd fork regardless: https://github.com/sebshader/pdnext/releases https://github.com/sebshader/pdnext/releases(if on linux you have to compile yourself.. use the current master branch)alternatively, you might be able to just take helpbrowser.tcl from my PR and move it into your pd install location (wherever the .tcl files are)
-seb
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Burt <composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com mailto:composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com> To: Pd-list <pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Sent: Fri, Aug 12, 2022 10:45 am Subject: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser
Is the Help Browser limited to showing only six panels? or is this a limitation of one's desktop environment? I'm considering switching from pd-tutorial to using the else library for teaching Pd fundamentals, but the else library has directories like else/Live-Electronics-Tutorial/Part.01-The.Basics/01-Pd.Quickstart/2.Syntax/3.Send-Receive/ and then my Help Browser won't show the contents of the next directory. I'm using Pop_OS whose COSMIC desktop is based on Gnome. Thanks for any suggestions. I really want to make this really easy for the students. Sam
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
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