Hello everybody,
for some interface experiments I got hold of an USB interface kit from Velleman, the K8061. More info: http://www.velleman.be/ot/en/product/view/?id=364910 This board comes with software for windows computers, a.o. a .dll file for communication. My system is a MacBook Pro november 2008 with OS X 10.5.6.
Are there people out there who have already used this board in Pure Data and/or on Mac OS X? I have already tried to get some data out of it with HID and although HID works good for joysticks and game controllers it does not get data from this kit.
Thanks in advance!
Wilfred
Wilfred de Zoete wrote:
Hello everybody,
for some interface experiments I got hold of an USB interface kit from Velleman, the K8061. More info: http://www.velleman.be/ot/en/product/view/?id=364910 This board comes with software for windows computers, a.o. a .dll file for communication. My system is a MacBook Pro november 2008 with OS X 10.5.6.
Are there people out there who have already used this board in Pure Data and/or on Mac OS X? I have already tried to get some data out of it with HID and although HID works good for joysticks and game controllers it does not get data from this kit.
I have never seen this kit before but it's probably using USB as a serial port, not a mouse/joystick, so [comport] should give some output...
Martin
hi i once made an pd-external for the velleman 8055, but it's windows only.
it's available for download at: http://akkiko.kilu.de/ ciao olli
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:03:36 +0200 From: puredata@klankontwerp.nl To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] K8061 USB interface board in PD on Mac
Hello everybody,
for some interface experiments I got hold of an USB interface kit from Velleman, the K8061. More info: http://www.velleman.be/ot/en/product/view/?id=364910
This board comes with software for windows computers, a.o. a .dll file for communication.
My system is a MacBook Pro november 2008 with OS X 10.5.6.
Are there people out there who have already used this board in Pure Data and/or on Mac OS X?
I have already tried to get some data out of it with HID and although HID works good for joysticks and game controllers it does not get data from this kit.
Thanks in advance!
Wilfred
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Thank you,
I tried it on Windows XP @ VirtualBox and it crashes PD. However I would like to try and make my own external for the 8061, It is probably too hard but I'd like to try it anyway. Or is there a way to make it communicate without reverting to C?
I once made a MAX interface for a card called MACI/O (worked via a serial port). I sent hex code directly from the MAX patch to the I/O back then and that worked. Is that possible with this card too?
Wilf
a. tonal schreef:
hi i once made an pd-external for the velleman 8055, but it's windows only.
it's available for download at: http://akkiko.kilu.de/ ciao olli
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:03:36 +0200 From: puredata@klankontwerp.nl To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] K8061 USB interface board in PD on Mac
Hello everybody,
for some interface experiments I got hold of an USB interface kit from Velleman, the K8061. More info: http://www.velleman.be/ot/en/product/view/?id=364910 This board comes with software for windows computers, a.o. a .dll file for communication. My system is a MacBook Pro november 2008 with OS X 10.5.6.
Are there people out there who have already used this board in Pure Data and/or on Mac OS X? I have already tried to get some data out of it with HID and although HID works good for joysticks and game controllers it does not get data from this kit.
Thanks in advance!
Wilfred
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hallo, i don't know about using .dll on a mac. please tell me if you know. the dll does all the communication with the card. the pd object, or whatever program, uses commands provided by the dll. i further think, that when using a virtual os like virtual box or wine, the communication with hardware is handled by the host os. correct me if i'm wrong. my humble suggestion, if asked for, was: why not use an arduino? or modify some joystick to your needs and use 'hid'?
good luck olli
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:43:11 +0200 From: puredata@klankontwerp.nl To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] K8061 USB interface board in PD on Mac
Thank you,
I tried it on Windows XP @ VirtualBox and it crashes PD. However I would like to try and make my own external for the 8061, It is probably too hard but I'd like to try it anyway. Or is there a way to make it communicate without reverting to C?
I once made a MAX interface for a card called MACI/O (worked via a serial port). I sent hex code directly from the MAX patch to the I/O back then and that worked. Is that possible with this card too?
Wilf
a. tonal schreef:
hi
i once made an pd-external for the velleman 8055, but it's windows only.
it's available for download at: http://akkiko.kilu.de/
ciao
olli
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:03:36 +0200
From: puredata@klankontwerp.nl
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Subject: [PD] K8061 USB interface board in PD on Mac
Hello everybody,
for some interface experiments I got hold of an USB interface kit from Velleman, the K8061. More info: http://www.velleman.be/ot/en/product/view/?id=364910
This board comes with software for windows computers, a.o. a .dll file for communication.
My system is a MacBook Pro november 2008 with OS X 10.5.6.
Are there people out there who have already used this board in Pure Data and/or on Mac OS X?
I have already tried to get some data out of it with HID and although HID works good for joysticks and game controllers it does not get data from this kit.
Thanks in advance!
Wilfred
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a. tonal wrote:
hallo, i don't know about using .dll on a mac. please tell me if you know.
No, you can't. dlls are for MS Windows systems. I found this googling "K8061 protocol", it seems to be source code for a linux driver for the K8061: http://doip.laupro.nl/browser/doip/k8061/trunk/k8061.c?rev=109 Maybe it could be ported to Mac? Anyhow, it's not just a serial interface like Arduino uses.
Martin
the dll does all the communication with the card. the pd object, or whatever program, uses commands provided by the dll. i further think, that when using a virtual os like virtual box or wine, the communication with hardware is handled by the host os. correct me if i'm wrong. my humble suggestion, if asked for, was: why not use an arduino? or modify some joystick to your needs and use 'hid'?
good luck olli
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:43:11 +0200 From: puredata@klankontwerp.nl To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] K8061 USB interface board in PD on Mac
Thank you,
I tried it on Windows XP @ VirtualBox and it crashes PD. However I would like to try and make my own external for the 8061, It is probably too hard but I'd like to try it anyway. Or is there a way to make it communicate without reverting to C?
I once made a MAX interface for a card called MACI/O (worked via a serial port). I sent hex code directly from the MAX patch to the I/O back then and that worked. Is that possible with this card too?
Wilf
a. tonal schreef:
hi i once made an pd-external for the velleman 8055, but it's windows only. it's available for download at: http://akkiko.kilu.de/ ciao olli ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:03:36 +0200 From: puredata@klankontwerp.nl <mailto:puredata@klankontwerp.nl> To: pd-list@iem.at <mailto:pd-list@iem.at> Subject: [PD] K8061 USB interface board in PD on Mac Hello everybody, for some interface experiments I got hold of an USB interface kit from Velleman, the K8061. More info: http://www.velleman.be/ot/en/product/view/?id=364910 This board comes with software for windows computers, a.o. a .dll file for communication. My system is a MacBook Pro november 2008 with OS X 10.5.6. Are there people out there who have already used this board in Pure Data and/or on Mac OS X? I have already tried to get some data out of it with HID and although HID works good for joysticks and game controllers it does not get data from this kit. Thanks in advance! Wilfred ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Surfen - optimiert für MSN. Hol Dir die neue Version des Internet Explorers - kostenlos! <http://redirect.gimas.net/?n=M0905IE8_MSN1_WW>
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Martin Peach schreef:
I found this googling "K8061 protocol", it seems to be source code for a linux driver for the K8061: http://doip.laupro.nl/browser/doip/k8061/trunk/k8061.c?rev=109 Maybe it could be ported to Mac?
I saw that one too and was thinking about setting up a Linux distro in Virtualbox to try it. The key question for me would remain if that app can communicate real time with PD to use the K8061 as controller.
Anyhow, it's not just a serial interface like Arduino uses.
Correct, it's a bit more advanced and has nice features that in potential can be very powerful... If one can program :P
the dll does all the communication with the card. the pd object, or whatever program, uses commands provided by the dll.
I have read the instructions and the codes of the K8061. Since your external is just a dll if I am right, I will try to explore the possibilities to rewrite it for the 8061. I have no knowledge about writing dlls but am a fast learner so I'll take up that challenge.
i further think, that when using a virtual os like virtual box or wine, the communication with hardware is handled by the host os. correct me if i'm wrong.
The OS on virtualbox can communicate directly with the installed USB bus.
my humble suggestion, if asked for, was: why not use an arduino? or modify some joystick to your needs and use 'hid'?
I started out with Joysticks and HID in conjunction with USB Overdrive and such but I just want more ins AND outs, analog AND digital. Arduino seems okay but limited as well.
So the first thing I will explore now is rewriting the dll and testing it on my virtual windows machines (XP and Win7).
Thanks,
Wilfred
Wilfred de Zoete wrote:
Martin Peach schreef:
I found this googling "K8061 protocol", it seems to be source code for a linux driver for the K8061: http://doip.laupro.nl/browser/doip/k8061/trunk/k8061.c?rev=109 Maybe it could be ported to Mac?
I saw that one too and was thinking about setting up a Linux distro in Virtualbox to try it. The key question for me would remain if that app can communicate real time with PD to use the K8061 as controller.
Anyhow, it's not just a serial interface like Arduino uses.
Correct, it's a bit more advanced and has nice features that in potential can be very powerful... If one can program :P
the dll does all the communication with the card. the pd object, or whatever program, uses commands provided by the dll.
I have read the instructions and the codes of the K8061. Since your external is just a dll if I am right, I will try to explore the possibilities to rewrite it for the 8061.
Well Pd externals for Windows are all dlls. The dll shipped with the 8061 is closed source but at least there is a development kit with a header file: http://www.vellemanusa.com/downloads/files/downloads/k8061_vistapack_2007v1....
I have no knowledge about writing dlls but am a fast learner so I'll take up that challenge.
It should be not too hard to adapt an example program from the sdk to be a Pd external. http://pdstatic.iem.at/externals-HOWTO/ is the standard reference for Pd externals.
i further think, that when using a virtual os like virtual box or wine, the communication with hardware is handled by the host os. correct me if i'm wrong.
The OS on virtualbox can communicate directly with the installed USB bus.
my humble suggestion, if asked for, was: why not use an arduino? or modify some joystick to your needs and use 'hid'?
I started out with Joysticks and HID in conjunction with USB Overdrive and such but I just want more ins AND outs, analog AND digital. Arduino seems okay but limited as well.
There is now a bigger Arduino: http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardMega
Martin
So the first thing I will explore now is rewriting the dll and testing it on my virtual windows machines (XP and Win7).
Thanks,
Wilfred
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hallo, i found this: http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/K8055-User-Interface.shtml. quote: Included is a static library that can be used for easily developing other applications and closely replicates the Velleman Windows .DLL functions. end quote
so maybe you can use this as a starting point and extend it. i think the k8061 is a double k8055, right?
for the pd object, if i can find the source code i can post it if you like. (i have to search various harddrives and usbsticks)
ciao olli
So the first thing I will explore now is rewriting the dll and testing it on my virtual windows machines (XP and Win7).
Thanks,
Wilfred
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Thanks for the link and if it is not too much work for you the source code would be great.
chau Wilf
a. tonal schreef:
hallo, i found this: http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/K8055-User-Interface.shtml.
quote: Included is a static library that can be used for easily developing other applications and closely replicates the Velleman Windows <http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/K8055-User-Interface.shtml#> .DLL functions. end quoteso maybe you can use this as a starting point and extend it. i think the k8061 is a double k8055, right?
for the pd object, if i can find the source code i can post it if you like. (i have to search various harddrives and usbsticks)
ciao olli
So the first thing I will explore now is rewriting the dll and testing it on my virtual windows machines (XP and Win7).
Thanks,
Wilfred
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