Hello
Besides the "delreadx~" abstraction (Steven Pickles), do you know any delay line with doppler effect suppression, as extern or abstract ?
Thanks a lot
-j
hi , i bought a new laptop and i want to install linux to have both linux and windows in the same computer. i have 75 gg hard drive. im new with linux, just tried knoppix and dynebolic bootable cds for a while. so the question is: which linux version do u recommend for a noobie linux user that want to use it for nasty pd patching????
thank you
pun chik
Hallo, pun chik hat gesagt: // pun chik wrote:
which linux version do u recommend for a noobie linux user that want to use it for nasty pd patching????
I highly recommend AGNUlA/Demudi, which I have test-installed now and found it to be an impressively easy way to get a full audio Linux installed in no time:
http://www.agnula.org/download/demudi/demudi_1_2_0_iso
(Try the bittorrent download, it's damn fast.)
A/Demudi has a very helpful mailing list and more current Pd packages (done by Guenther Geiger) than Planet CCRMA. And it is based on Debian, which means, that you have about 10,000 regular software packages only one command away for installation, as many as no other distribution comes even close to.
Demudi uses the new Debian installer, so unless you do anything really stupid like formatting /dev/hda, it's absolutely foolproof IMO. Demudi installs in about 1.4 GB when all packages are selected, add swap and (possibly a lot of) home space to this, and you will need about 3-5 GB for it.
A lot of the Linux-users at the Pd convention ran Debian, AFAIR. Anyone didn't?
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
Anyone didn't?
yeh, me, there's nothing better like compiling your own software and brewing your own beer.
but pdp/unauthorized/pidip are good in debian ( thanx to pablo al-caedes ), but i've seen some problems with the pd package itself ( and the gem one's too )
best, sevy
hi! i installed agnula demudi and im pretty new with linux. is there any tutorial or link for installing pd libraries on linux???
bye
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:26:30 +0200, "Frank Barknecht" fbar@footils.org said:
Hallo, pun chik hat gesagt: // pun chik wrote:
which linux version do u recommend for a noobie linux user that want to use it for nasty pd patching????
I highly recommend AGNUlA/Demudi, which I have test-installed now and found it to be an impressively easy way to get a full audio Linux installed in no time:
http://www.agnula.org/download/demudi/demudi_1_2_0_iso
(Try the bittorrent download, it's damn fast.)
A/Demudi has a very helpful mailing list and more current Pd packages (done by Guenther Geiger) than Planet CCRMA. And it is based on Debian, which means, that you have about 10,000 regular software packages only one command away for installation, as many as no other distribution comes even close to.
Demudi uses the new Debian installer, so unless you do anything really stupid like formatting /dev/hda, it's absolutely foolproof IMO. Demudi installs in about 1.4 GB when all packages are selected, add swap and (possibly a lot of) home space to this, and you will need about 3-5 GB for it.
A lot of the Linux-users at the Pd convention ran Debian, AFAIR. Anyone didn't?
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
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Hallo, pun chik hat gesagt: // pun chik wrote:
hi! i installed agnula demudi and im pretty new with linux. is there any tutorial or link for installing pd libraries on linux???
Most Pd externals are already installed on A/Demudi. To activate external libraries like zexy for your user account, you either start Pd with "pd -lib zexy" or create a textfile in your home directory called ".pdrc".
For example, the terminal command:
$ evim ~/.pdrc
will make you edit the file in the "Easy Vim" editor. Just write:
-path /usr/lib/pd/externs -lib zexy:Gem
into it. You also can see or edit the current path from inside Pd using the "Path" menu entry. All this should be described in the HTML docs.
For installing new packages or updating them, you have to be logged in as root. You can do this using "aptitude" without starting a new X-Window session in a terminal by:
$ su -
<input root password>
$ aptitude
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
pun chik wrote:
which linux version do u recommend for a noobie linux user that want to use it for nasty pd patching????
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 11:58:51AM -0700, pun chik wrote:
which linux version do u recommend for a noobie linux user that want to use it for nasty pd patching????
There are "agnula" and "planet ccrma" that provided an extensive collection of binary packages ready to use. But if you prefer to delight yourself in the compilation of packages, you can use whichever linux distro like deb, rh, slack, gentoo etc. having the patience of patching and rebuild the kernel in order to obtain good latency performances.
es. I use slackware v10 with kernel 2.4.26 (with a kernel patch provided by Luke Yelavich at audioslack.com), I am build all sound_software packages myself and now i run wery well pd-pdp-pidip. -- Lazzaro
rif: for agnula http://www.agnula.org/ for planet http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ for kernel latency ohttp://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/resourceslatency.php3
by the way, what's up with Apodio? it seemed like an ok audio oriented distro i havent tried it, so would be nice to hear from someone who has... best+ r
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I run two systems, both dual booting w/ Windows XP Pro.
The first is Debian Sarge, which was a bit difficult to install, but has good covereage for PD packages with apt. Generally more difficult to use, but I have more control over things.
The second is Fedora Core 2 with Planet CCRMA. This was much easier to install, given that this rig has hardware debian doesn't support at all yet (apparently)--just pop the CDs in and it figured everything out. People keep talking about "the new Debian installer", though, and I don't know about that. Generally very easy to use, but I'm never quite sure what's going on under the hood--but it "just works", so I'm not complaining.
Hope that helps.
Anyone tried Ubuntu?
If you want to get all medieval and compile everything like Yves ;) , maybe check out Gentoo, which is what I would use if I had all the time in the world. I hear its package manager, emerge, is better than sex.
I started with 33 gigs to windows and 7 gigs to Linux, but I keep adding space to Linux and taking it away from Windows, as Linux is slowly replacing everything I would use Windows for. Right now I think I'm at 25G/15G Win/Linux.
pun chik wrote:
hi , i bought a new laptop and i want to install linux to have both linux and windows in the same computer. i have 75 gg hard drive. im new with linux, just tried knoppix and dynebolic bootable cds for a while. so the question is: which linux version do u recommend for a noobie linux user that want to use it for nasty pd patching????
thank you
pun chik
It's possible to build a doppler effect using nothing but the objects that come with Pd. I did it some time ago by coverting a Csound orchestra instrument to a Pd patch, great fun! I'll have a look around and see if I can find it.
Rory.
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Hello
Besides the "delreadx~" abstraction (Steven Pickles), do you know any delay line with doppler effect suppression, as extern or abstract ?
Thanks a lot
-j
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Selon Rory Walsh rorytheroar@yahoo.com:
It's possible to build a doppler effect using nothing but the objects that come with Pd. I did it some time ago by coverting a Csound orchestra instrument to a Pd patch, great fun! I'll have a look around and see if I can find it.
that's cool, but actually I wanted to ELIMINATE the Doppler effect produced by a delay line when changing the delay time
I wrote my own abstraction, it's something based on two parallel delay lines. It works, but I'm looking for something using only one delay line, for example.
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Besides the "delreadx~" abstraction (Steven Pickles), do you know any delay line with doppler effect suppression, as extern or abstract ?
Thanks a lot
-j
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that's cool, but actually I wanted to ELIMINATE the Doppler effect produced by a delay line when changing the delay time
try scrub~ from percolate ...
cheers ... tim