Hi List,
I was wondering if anyone knows of any projects which use GEM in a
collaborative way.
I've done some experiments with netsend and receive with more than
one computer controlling a patch but in that case, the user doesn't
see the end result of what they are contributing too.
What I am interested in is a way for users to collaborate and see the
results as well.
Optimally, a user could see both what they contribute as well as a
final result.
I'd like to come up with a way to do this but thought it would be
interesting to see what's been done in this area first.
Thanks in advance, p
Cyrille and Damien Henry. Two brothers who perform live music+visuals
using two separate MIDI control surfaces.
.hc
On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:12 PM, Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Hi List,
I was wondering if anyone knows of any projects which use GEM in a
collaborative way. I've done some experiments with netsend and receive with more than one
computer controlling a patch but in that case, the user doesn't see
the end result of what they are contributing too. What I am interested in is a way for users to collaborate and see the
results as well. Optimally, a user could see both what they contribute as well as a
final result. I'd like to come up with a way to do this but thought it would be
interesting to see what's been done in this area first.Thanks in advance, p
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Hi Hans-Christoph,
Thanks. I wish there was a little more technical info on the site.
I see that they are using OSC (Ben's suggestion as well) so I guess
that's the way to go as long as it can be done on the internet, not
just a LAN.
I haven't worked with OSC yet and will do some googling but if you
know of any good docs on OSC with PD, I would appreciate knowing
about them.
Thanks, p
On Dec 3, 2005, at 1:12 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Cyrille and Damien Henry. Two brothers who perform live music +visuals using two separate MIDI control surfaces.
.hc
On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:12 PM, Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Hi List,
I was wondering if anyone knows of any projects which use GEM in a
collaborative way. I've done some experiments with netsend and receive with more than
one computer controlling a patch but in that case, the user
doesn't see the end result of what they are contributing too. What I am interested in is a way for users to collaborate and see
the results as well. Optimally, a user could see both what they contribute as well as a
final result. I'd like to come up with a way to do this but thought it would be
interesting to see what's been done in this area first.Thanks in advance, p
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Hallo, Paris Treantafeles hat gesagt: // Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Thanks. I wish there was a little more technical info on the site. I see that they are using OSC (Ben's suggestion as well) so I guess
that's the way to go as long as it can be done on the internet, not
just a LAN.
You can use OSC on a LAN as well. In fact I use OSC a lot using only localhost, that is, let two Pds on one machine talk to each other through OSC (one audio, one Gem for example).
Re. chdh: You can find some of their work in the Pd-CVS in externals/pmpd and externals/nusmuk, though no about the networking. I guess, the OSC-part is pretty usual, though, or isn't it, Cyrille?
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
Hi Frank,
Thanks - can you recommend any good reading or patches to look at for
learning to use OSC?
Thanks again, p
On Dec 4, 2005, at 4:33 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, Paris Treantafeles hat gesagt: // Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Thanks. I wish there was a little more technical info on the site. I see that they are using OSC (Ben's suggestion as well) so I guess that's the way to go as long as it can be done on the internet, not just a LAN.
You can use OSC on a LAN as well. In fact I use OSC a lot using only localhost, that is, let two Pds on one machine talk to each other through OSC (one audio, one Gem for example).
Re. chdh: You can find some of their work in the Pd-CVS in externals/pmpd and externals/nusmuk, though no about the networking. I guess, the OSC-part is pretty usual, though, or isn't it, Cyrille?
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
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Thanks - can you recommend any good reading or patches to look at for learning to use OSC?
-The place were it comes from: http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/ http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/OSC-spec.html http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/OSC-spec-examples.html#OSCstr...
See also: http://www.opensoundcontrol.org/
AvS
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` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +
` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # |
| http://www.schreck.nl/ |
| http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ |
` *===========================================================++
` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html |
` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html |
` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html |
` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html |
` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html |
*===========================================================++
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Thanks - now I remember seeing this before! For PD specific applications I'll search the list archives.
Best, p
On Dec 4, 2005, at 5:22 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote:
Thanks - can you recommend any good reading or patches to look at for learning to use OSC?
-The place were it comes from: http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/ http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/OSC-spec.html http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/OSC-spec- examples.html#OSCstrings
See also: http://www.opensoundcontrol.org/
AvS
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` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +
` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .....................................................................
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Hi Paris,
I experimented with this a little bit, but using multicast (or OSC server).
Who is collaborating? (LAN, internet? VPN?)
This example does not include local control
say you have three cubes, each is connected to an OSCroute with say, something like /client1/pos X Y Z for the position.
collaborator 1 sets his OSC name to "client1" and moves some sliders. The data is all packed and redestributed to all clients each with a different client_name.
then you just move the cubes on each client according to the incoming OSC, each user can move thier cube, and all users can see the movements of all cubes...
b.
Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Hi List,
I was wondering if anyone knows of any projects which use GEM in a collaborative way. I've done some experiments with netsend and receive with more than one computer controlling a patch but in that case, the user doesn't see the end result of what they are contributing too. What I am interested in is a way for users to collaborate and see the results as well. Optimally, a user could see both what they contribute as well as a final result. I'd like to come up with a way to do this but thought it would be interesting to see what's been done in this area first.
Thanks in advance, p
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Hi Ben,
Thanks for the reply.
I'm looking for a way to collaborate on the internet.
I haven't tried OSC but from your description below it sounds like
this may do it because I'd like participants to see their individual
work as well as the combined work of all users.
Is there a simple patch or documentation that would help to get
started with learning to use OSC with PD?
Thanks, p
On Dec 3, 2005, at 12:18 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Paris,
I experimented with this a little bit, but using multicast (or OSC
server).Who is collaborating? (LAN, internet? VPN?)
This example does not include local control
say you have three cubes, each is connected to an OSCroute with say, something like /client1/pos X Y Z for the position.
collaborator 1 sets his OSC name to "client1" and moves some sliders. The data is all packed and redestributed to all clients each with a different client_name.
then you just move the cubes on each client according to the incoming OSC, each user can move thier cube, and all users can see the
movements of all cubes...b.
Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Hi List,
I was wondering if anyone knows of any projects which use GEM in a collaborative way. I've done some experiments with netsend and receive with more
than one computer controlling a patch but in that case, the user doesn't
see the end result of what they are contributing too. What I am interested in is a way for users to collaborate and see the results as well. Optimally, a user could see both what they contribute as well as a final result. I'd like to come up with a way to do this but thought it would be interesting to see what's been done in this area first.Thanks in advance, p
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OSC is a lot like the netsend/netreceive in UDP mode.
Anyhow I attached a simple help patch to get you going.
just be sure you look into the cool wild-card stuff. for example:
/var/x 10
will send the value "10" to the name /var/x.
/var/[x|y|z] 10
will send the to /var/x /var/y and /var/z
b.
Hi Ben,
Thanks for the reply. I'm looking for a way to collaborate on the internet. I haven't tried OSC but from your description below it sounds like this may do it because I'd like participants to see their individual work as well as the combined work of all users.
Is there a simple patch or documentation that would help to get started with learning to use OSC with PD?
Thanks, p
On Dec 3, 2005, at 12:18 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Paris,
I experimented with this a little bit, but using multicast (or OSC server).
Who is collaborating? (LAN, internet? VPN?)
This example does not include local control
say you have three cubes, each is connected to an OSCroute with say, something like /client1/pos X Y Z for the position.
collaborator 1 sets his OSC name to "client1" and moves some sliders. The data is all packed and redestributed to all clients each with a different client_name.
then you just move the cubes on each client according to the incoming OSC, each user can move thier cube, and all users can see the movements of all cubes...
b.
Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Hi List,
I was wondering if anyone knows of any projects which use GEM in a collaborative way. I've done some experiments with netsend and receive with more than one computer controlling a patch but in that case, the user doesn't see the end result of what they are contributing too. What I am interested in is a way for users to collaborate and see the results as well. Optimally, a user could see both what they contribute as well as a final result. I'd like to come up with a way to do this but thought it would be interesting to see what's been done in this area first.
Thanks in advance, p
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Hi Ben,
Thanks for the sample - I just took a look at it and it makes good
sense to me - as you noted much like netsent/receive.
What is needed for an OSC server (multicast)?
I imagine that's what would be needed if you want internet
collaboration of people in various locations?
Thanks, p
On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:13 AM, B. Bogart wrote:
OSC is a lot like the netsend/netreceive in UDP mode.
Anyhow I attached a simple help patch to get you going.
just be sure you look into the cool wild-card stuff. for example:
/var/x 10
will send the value "10" to the name /var/x.
/var/[x|y|z] 10
will send the to /var/x /var/y and /var/z
b.
Hi Ben,
Thanks for the reply. I'm looking for a way to collaborate on the internet. I haven't tried OSC but from your description below it sounds like this may do it because I'd like participants to see their individual work as well as the combined work of all users.
Is there a simple patch or documentation that would help to get started with learning to use OSC with PD?
Thanks, p
On Dec 3, 2005, at 12:18 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Paris,
I experimented with this a little bit, but using multicast (or OSC server).
Who is collaborating? (LAN, internet? VPN?)
This example does not include local control
say you have three cubes, each is connected to an OSCroute with say, something like /client1/pos X Y Z for the position.
collaborator 1 sets his OSC name to "client1" and moves some
sliders. The data is all packed and redestributed to all clients each with a different client_name.then you just move the cubes on each client according to the
incoming OSC, each user can move thier cube, and all users can see the movements of all cubes...b.
Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Hi List,
I was wondering if anyone knows of any projects which use GEM in a collaborative way. I've done some experiments with netsend and receive with more than one computer controlling a patch but in that case, the user doesn't see the end result of what they are contributing too. What I am interested in is a way for users to collaborate and
see the results as well. Optimally, a user could see both what they contribute as well as a final result. I'd like to come up with a way to do this but thought it would be interesting to see what's been done in this area first.Thanks in advance, p
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On Dec 5, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Thanks for the sample - I just took a look at it and it makes good
sense to me - as you noted much like netsent/receive.What is needed for an OSC server (multicast)? I imagine that's what would be needed if you want internet
collaboration of people in various locations?
...you may want to check out the gullibloon project:
http://xdv.org/twiki/bin/view/Gulli/WebHome
james
Thanks for sharing, James.
quite interesting!
too bad the pd patches don't seem to be viewable: http://xdv.org/twiki/bin/view/Gulli/PureDataPatches
best, p
On Dec 5, 2005, at 2:13 PM, james tittle wrote:
On Dec 5, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Thanks for the sample - I just took a look at it and it makes good
sense to me - as you noted much like netsent/receive.What is needed for an OSC server (multicast)? I imagine that's what would be needed if you want internet
collaboration of people in various locations?...you may want to check out the gullibloon project:
http://xdv.org/twiki/bin/view/Gulli/WebHome
james
Hi
I added a tiny netpd-gem example. http://www.netpd.org/GemExample1
I've not much experience with GEM or other graphic stuff so feel free to add more examples http://www.netpd.org/Gem
cheers
eni
On Dec 3, 2005, at 5:12 AM, Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Hi List,
I was wondering if anyone knows of any projects which use GEM in a collaborative way. I've done some experiments with netsend and receive with more than one computer controlling a patch but in that case, the user doesn't see the end result of what they are contributing too. What I am interested in is a way for users to collaborate and see the results as well. Optimally, a user could see both what they contribute as well as a final result. I'd like to come up with a way to do this but thought it would be interesting to see what's been done in this area first.
Thanks in advance, p
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Hi Eni,
Great - thanks!
I think that by the end of the week or on the weekend, I'll have some
time to play with this and will let you know how it goes.
Best, p
On Jan 4, 2006, at 5:34 AM, Enrique Erne wrote:
Hi
I added a tiny netpd-gem example. http://www.netpd.org/GemExample1
I've not much experience with GEM or other graphic stuff so feel
free to add more examples http://www.netpd.org/Gemcheers
eni
On Dec 3, 2005, at 5:12 AM, Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Hi List,
I was wondering if anyone knows of any projects which use GEM in a
collaborative way. I've done some experiments with netsend and receive with more than
one computer controlling a patch but in that case, the user
doesn't see the end result of what they are contributing too. What I am interested in is a way for users to collaborate and see
the results as well. Optimally, a user could see both what they contribute as well as a
final result. I'd like to come up with a way to do this but thought it would be
interesting to see what's been done in this area first.Thanks in advance, p
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hello list, Do anybody have tried to compile the pix_multiblob object for windows sucessfully? thanx
yukio
yukio kuroiwa yukio_kuroiwa@fastmail.fm
Yes, it would be trivial with netsend and netreceive. You could send, let say, foo-s and receive foo-r, which would be the average/result of the same value for every participant. Interesting.
aalex
Le Janvier 4, 2006 05:34 AM, Enrique Erne a écrit :
Hi
I added a tiny netpd-gem example. http://www.netpd.org/GemExample1
I've not much experience with GEM or other graphic stuff so feel free to add more examples http://www.netpd.org/Gem
cheers
eni
On Dec 3, 2005, at 5:12 AM, Paris Treantafeles wrote:
Hi List,
I was wondering if anyone knows of any projects which use GEM in a collaborative way. I've done some experiments with netsend and receive with more than one computer controlling a patch but in that case, the user doesn't see the end result of what they are contributing too. What I am interested in is a way for users to collaborate and see the results as well. Optimally, a user could see both what they contribute as well as a final result. I'd like to come up with a way to do this but thought it would be interesting to see what's been done in this area first.
Thanks in advance, p
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