... this morning: in that dream there was my good old 700 mhz win desktop pc with a linux installed and a fine running pd with gridflow and gem running like hell on it... ... but, ups, wait.. linux.?. after so many days and nights spending in front of this mysthical pinguin, with the feeling of never understood less about computers than in that moment ? try again to discover the unknown depths of your comp ? spending weeks for figuring out why your hardware dont work ? be horrorfied by a monster called unix ? hmmm. YES
i think its a good winter to wake up the pinguin again and try to learn something usefull ....
ok heres my question to all the experts and freaks:
please help
, which linux you would prefer ? the goal is to run pd/gridflow (oh how wonderfull it could be) etc. and to learn about linux ? debian, mandrake, suse, red hat and i heard about a special multimedie linux, but forgot its name. tell me ...
, where can i find good instructions for a weak win user, who wants to experience all this compiling stuff etc ?
, is there a tutorial or something which can bring me to my goal, step by step ? (ok, surly not available, the install linux/pd tutorial for dummies)
in one sentence, i am looking for a guru who leads me through the dark path of personal operating systems..
thanx for reading
Dirk,
first, go here for some inspiration : http://funda.ment.org/THELIGHT/
some ppl prefer redhat to start with. I would recomend this as well.
pretty easy to install. I even have my father using it now.
don't go with mandrake or suse. with redhat, just pop in the cd's and
click thru the install process.
if you are a bit daring, than try out debian or gentoo <gentoo.org> with both of those, you will probably be spending more time than you want configuring the machine.
best -august.
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Dirk Koritnik wrote:
... this morning: in that dream there was my good old 700 mhz win desktop pc with a linux installed and a fine running pd with gridflow and gem running like hell on it... ... but, ups, wait.. linux.?. after so many days and nights spending in front of this mysthical pinguin, with the feeling of never understood less about computers than in that moment ? try again to discover the unknown depths of your comp ? spending weeks for figuring out why your hardware dont work ? be horrorfied by a monster called unix ? hmmm. YES
i think its a good winter to wake up the pinguin again and try to learn something usefull ....
ok heres my question to all the experts and freaks:
please help
, which linux you would prefer ? the goal is to run pd/gridflow (oh how wonderfull it could be) etc. and to learn about linux ? debian, mandrake, suse, red hat and i heard about a special multimedie linux, but forgot its name. tell me ...
, where can i find good instructions for a weak win user, who wants to experience all this compiling stuff etc ?
, is there a tutorial or something which can bring me to my goal, step by step ? (ok, surly not available, the install linux/pd tutorial for dummies)
in one sentence, i am looking for a guru who leads me through the dark path of personal operating systems..
thanx for reading
PD-list mailing list PD-list@iem.at http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 05:30:58PM +0100, august wrote:
some ppl prefer redhat to start with. I would recomend this as well.
Even if I prefer Mandrake for probably no good reasons, I would also recommend RedHat because of this very good repository for sound and music softwares: http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/soundapps.html -- Marc
august wrote:
Dirk,
first, go here for some inspiration : http://funda.ment.org/THELIGHT/
some ppl prefer redhat to start with. I would recomend this as well. pretty easy to install. I even have my father using it now.
don't go with mandrake or suse. with redhat, just pop in the cd's and click thru the install process.
Suse 8.0 or more is easy to install as well. I have Suse 8.2 on a couple of machines here. The only trouble is, it uses gcc 3.3 to compile, and a lot of developers haven't made that switch yet, so a lot of source packages won't compile without a lot of screwing around.
Martin
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Martin Peach wrote:
Suse 8.0 or more is easy to install as well. I have Suse 8.2 on a couple of machines here. The only trouble is, it uses gcc 3.3 to compile, and a lot of developers haven't made that switch yet, so a lot of source packages won't compile without a lot of screwing around.
IIRC, the kind of problem one can have compiling GridFlow using GCC 3.3 is that GCC may crash when attempting to compile it, when it's not just using up way too much RAM. GridFlow is not the only program to have such an impression on GCC 3.3 it seems.
On Debian I have GCC 3.3, 3.2, 2.95, and I configure GridFlow using "--use-compiler=g++-3.2".
On SuSE I don't recall, but it's not the latest SuSE and it's not GCC 3.3.
On Mandrake (9.1?) I have GCC 3.2.
On MacOS 10.2 I have GCC 3.1 (from Dec.2002 devtools).
Mathieu Bouchard http://artengine.ca/matju
Cool,
I did not know Redhat worked on PPC? Mandrake?
is everything up to date or is like the SUSE PPC which is versions behind...
Ben
Dirk,
first, go here for some inspiration : http://funda.ment.org/THELIGHT/
some ppl prefer redhat to start with. I would recomend this as well. pretty easy to install. I even have my father using it now. don't go with mandrake or suse. with redhat, just pop in the cd's and click thru the install process.
if you are a bit daring, than try out debian or gentoo <gentoo.org> with both of those, you will probably be spending more time than you want configuring the machine.
best -august.
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Dirk Koritnik wrote:
... this morning: in that dream there was my good old 700 mhz win desktop pc with a linux installed and a fine running pd with gridflow and gem running like hell on it... ... but, ups, wait.. linux.?. after so many days and nights spending in front of this mysthical pinguin, with the feeling of never understood less about computers than in that moment ? try again to discover the unknown depths of your comp ? spending weeks for figuring out why your hardware dont work ? be horrorfied by a monster called unix ? hmmm. YES
i think its a good winter to wake up the pinguin again and try to learn something usefull ....
ok heres my question to all the experts and freaks:
please help
, which linux you would prefer ? the goal is to run pd/gridflow (oh how wonderfull it could be) etc. and to learn about linux ? debian, mandrake, suse, red hat and i heard about a special multimedie linux, but forgot its name. tell me ...
, where can i find good instructions for a weak win user, who wants to experience all this compiling stuff etc ?
, is there a tutorial or something which can bring me to my goal, step by step ? (ok, surly not available, the install linux/pd tutorial for dummies)
in one sentence, i am looking for a guru who leads me through the dark path of personal operating systems..
thanx for reading
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Well, I'm not your guru, but I am sincerely interested in any answers to this question also. BTW, the multimedia dist you mention is called Agnula (www.agnula.org) and is basically, as understand it, a set of packages installed over a basic Debian install. No experience with it, however.
Good luck, Nicholas
-----Original Message----- From: pd-list-admin@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-admin@iem.at] On Behalf Of Dirk Koritnik Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 10:38 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] i had a dream ... (two souls in my breast)
... this morning: in that dream there was my good old 700 mhz win desktop pc with a linux installed and a fine running pd with gridflow and gem running like hell on it... ... but, ups, wait.. linux.?. after so many days and nights spending in front of this mysthical pinguin, with the feeling of never understood
less about computers than in that moment ? try again to discover the unknown depths of your comp ? spending weeks for figuring out why your hardware dont work ? be horrorfied by a monster called unix ? hmmm. YES
i think its a good winter to wake up the pinguin again and try to learn something usefull ....
ok heres my question to all the experts and freaks:
please help
, which linux you would prefer ? the goal is to run pd/gridflow (oh how wonderfull it could be) etc. and to learn about linux ? debian, mandrake, suse, red hat and i heard about a special multimedie linux, but forgot its name. tell me ...
, where can i find good instructions for a weak win user, who wants to experience all this compiling stuff etc ?
, is there a tutorial or something which can bring me to my goal, step by step ? (ok, surly not available, the install linux/pd tutorial for dummies)
in one sentence, i am looking for a guru who leads me through the dark path of personal operating systems..
thanx for reading
PD-list mailing list PD-list@iem.at http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list
Hallo,
Dirk Koritnik hat gesagt: // Dirk Koritnik wrote:
, which linux you would prefer ? the goal is to run pd/gridflow (oh how wonderfull it could be) etc. and to learn about linux ? debian, mandrake, suse, red hat and i heard about a special multimedie linux, but forgot its name. tell me ...
, where can i find good instructions for a weak win user, who wants to experience all this compiling stuff etc ?
I do prefer Debian, but I'm strange. Any Linux distribution will be able to run Pd and very probably also Gridflow. You shouldn't so much care about the best distribution for audio/multimedia, but the best distribution for you in general.
Here's a nice and detailed document for setting up semipro-audio on Linux: http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/ALSA_JACK_ARDOUR.html
The Planet CCRMA (pronounced Karma) is a good start, too: http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
But these things are more important:
You want to read a good book on Linux in general, like the one by Kofler. Should be cheap, if you don't buy the newest printing, but instead look on ebay or such. But any book on Linux will do, just read it. There are free downloadable books on http://www.tldp.org/ Read at least something like this: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/
Subscribe to linux-audio-user: http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/resourceslists.php3
Buy your hardware with care. Make double sure, that everything important is supported in principle before trying to install Linux. Check your hardware with a Knoppix CD distro.
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__