hi
i'm on Windows 10. font & object boxes & windows show up significant smaller in 0.50 then in 0.49.
how come? and how to change without the command line?
rolf
Hi Rolf -
I compared 0.49 and 0.50. It looks to me like the 64 bit version of 0.49 and 0.50, and the 32 bit version of 0.49, all look the same, but the 32-bit version of 0.49 has everything larger and smudgy-looking (apparently because Tcl/Tk was rescaling everything). The i386 version of 0.49 shipped with Tcl/tk 8.5.10 and 0.50 with 8.5.19, which fixed various other problems.
From the command line you can run Pd with "-font 16" for instance to get
boxes bigger in new patches, but the only way to see an existing patch bigger is to use "zoom". Unfortunately, patches don't remember their zoom state (I now think that they probably should).
cheers Miller
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 01:34:23PM +0200, rolfm@dds.nl wrote:
hi
i'm on Windows 10. font & object boxes & windows show up significant smaller in 0.50 then in 0.49.
how come? and how to change without the command line?
rolf
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Oops, correction: 64-bit 0.49 and 0.50, and 32-bit 0.50 look the same, but 32-bit 0.49 is larger and smudgy. (And let me know if you're seeing something different :)
M
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 08:54:54AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi Rolf -
I compared 0.49 and 0.50. It looks to me like the 64 bit version of 0.49 and 0.50, and the 32 bit version of 0.49, all look the same, but the 32-bit version of 0.49 has everything larger and smudgy-looking (apparently because Tcl/Tk was rescaling everything). The i386 version of 0.49 shipped with Tcl/tk 8.5.10 and 0.50 with 8.5.19, which fixed various other problems.
From the command line you can run Pd with "-font 16" for instance to get boxes bigger in new patches, but the only way to see an existing patch bigger is to use "zoom". Unfortunately, patches don't remember their zoom state (I now think that they probably should).
cheers Miller
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 01:34:23PM +0200, rolfm@dds.nl wrote:
hi
i'm on Windows 10. font & object boxes & windows show up significant smaller in 0.50 then in 0.49.
how come? and how to change without the command line?
rolf
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FWIF, on Windows 7 Pd 0.49/0.50 (32-bit/64-bit) all look the same.
Christof
Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. August 2019 um 18:15 Uhr Von: "Miller Puckette" msp@ucsd.edu An: rolfm@dds.nl Cc: "Pd list" pd-list@lists.iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] font in 0.50
Oops, correction: 64-bit 0.49 and 0.50, and 32-bit 0.50 look the same, but 32-bit 0.49 is larger and smudgy. (And let me know if you're seeing something different :)
M
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 08:54:54AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi Rolf -
I compared 0.49 and 0.50. It looks to me like the 64 bit version of 0.49 and 0.50, and the 32 bit version of 0.49, all look the same, but the 32-bit version of 0.49 has everything larger and smudgy-looking (apparently because Tcl/Tk was rescaling everything). The i386 version of 0.49 shipped with Tcl/tk 8.5.10 and 0.50 with 8.5.19, which fixed various other problems.
From the command line you can run Pd with "-font 16" for instance to get boxes bigger in new patches, but the only way to see an existing patch bigger is to use "zoom". Unfortunately, patches don't remember their zoom state (I now think that they probably should).
cheers Miller
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 01:34:23PM +0200, rolfm@dds.nl wrote:
hi
i'm on Windows 10. font & object boxes & windows show up significant smaller in 0.50 then in 0.49.
how come? and how to change without the command line?
rolf
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Yes, I have! Now I see that the Pd 0.50 64-bit package doesn't include the fontloader, but the 32-bit version does. I think you've already posted about this on the list. Also, the "font" folder in the 64-bit version misses DejaVuSansMono-Bold.ttf.
Christof
Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. August 2019 um 22:31 Uhr Von: "Lucas Cordiviola" lucarda27@hotmail.com An: "Christof Ressi" christof.ressi@gmx.at, Pd-List pd-list@lists.iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] font in 0.50
On 8/25/19 1:20 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
FWIF, on Windows 7 Pd 0.49/0.50 (32-bit/64-bit) all look the same.
It's most likely that you have "Dejavu" font installed on your system.
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I think Rolf is using the 64bit 0.50. This one does not ship pdfontloader so Pd is using default "courier" font.
Rolf can you switch the console's error log to 4 (all) and tell which font Pd is using?
I have already spotted this on https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2019-08/022096.html
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On 8/25/19 1:15 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Oops, correction: 64-bit 0.49 and 0.50, and 32-bit 0.50 look the same, but 32-bit 0.49 is larger and smudgy. (And let me know if you're seeing something different :)
M
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 08:54:54AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi Rolf -
I compared 0.49 and 0.50. It looks to me like the 64 bit version of 0.49 and 0.50, and the 32 bit version of 0.49, all look the same, but the 32-bit version of 0.49 has everything larger and smudgy-looking (apparently because Tcl/Tk was rescaling everything). The i386 version of 0.49 shipped with Tcl/tk 8.5.10 and 0.50 with 8.5.19, which fixed various other problems.
From the command line you can run Pd with "-font 16" for instance to get boxes bigger in new patches, but the only way to see an existing patch bigger is to use "zoom". Unfortunately, patches don't remember their zoom state (I now think that they probably should).
cheers Miller
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 01:34:23PM +0200, rolfm@dds.nl wrote:
hi
i'm on Windows 10. font & object boxes & windows show up significant smaller in 0.50 then in 0.49.
how come? and how to change without the command line?
rolf
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hi,
i'm really strugling with this change in size from 0.49. it feels like a disaster, until now i did not find something like a (partial) solution.
i hope some people on the list can point me to something workable. (besides staying with 0.49).
first a few things which could possibly help me:
is it possible to let Pd ignore the font-size saved in the patch and use another given value?
is it possible to change the standard distance between object boxes used while autopatching?
is it possible to enlarge the area for the cursor to detect an outlet?
then the obstacles:
when, in Windows 10, i scale the system overall from the recommended 125% to 175% i'm still forced to sit close to my 15" screen to be able to read my existing patches.
(while i need to find flexible comfortable ways to work with the computer in relation to RSI phenomena).
the pd-windows are enlarged, but the content of the GOP's and the underlying patches stay in font-size 10.
the same goes for Pd itself. the font for the console (font-size 12) can be changed but the change is not saved. the menu's stay anyhow in font-size 10.
lots of help-patches are also in 10. watching the help-patch with the zoom could help, but is a hassle because one has to move the focus/cursor to the help-window, do Ctrl + , and maximize the window.
the font-size variable in the command line only works on new patches, as does the zoom preference.
what to do? there's the terrible option to change all my existing patches/abstractions to a larger font, what would also mean to reorganize the layout.
of course i'm dreaming of a scalable overall zoom, even a few distinct levels would do. (which would also benefit the exchange of patches with other people). but...
rolf
Miller Puckette schreef op 25-08-2019 18:15:
Oops, correction: 64-bit 0.49 and 0.50, and 32-bit 0.50 look the same, but 32-bit 0.49 is larger and smudgy. (And let me know if you're seeing something different :)
M
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 08:54:54AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi Rolf -
I compared 0.49 and 0.50. It looks to me like the 64 bit version of 0.49 and 0.50, and the 32 bit version of 0.49, all look the same, but the 32-bit version of 0.49 has everything larger and smudgy-looking (apparently because Tcl/Tk was rescaling everything). The i386 version of 0.49 shipped with Tcl/tk 8.5.10 and 0.50 with 8.5.19, which fixed various other problems.
From the command line you can run Pd with "-font 16" for instance to get boxes bigger in new patches, but the only way to see an existing patch bigger is to use "zoom". Unfortunately, patches don't remember their zoom state (I now think that they probably should).
cheers Miller
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 01:34:23PM +0200, rolfm@dds.nl wrote:
hi
i'm on Windows 10. font & object boxes & windows show up significant smaller in 0.50 then in 0.49.
how come? and how to change without the command line?
rolf
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