Hi all
Wondering if anybody has advice re running Pd on OS X 10.4. I'm on 10.3.9 right now, and I have 10.4 sitting here, but I've been warned off running audio programs until 10.4 gets better. I'm using Hans-Christoph's 0.38 installer and trying out the 0.39 releases.
Thanks for any info.
cheers dafydd
On Aug 25, 2005, at 12:33 PM, dafydd hughes wrote:
Hi all
Wondering if anybody has advice re running Pd on OS X 10.4. I'm on
10.3.9 right now, and I have 10.4 sitting here, but I've been
warned off running audio programs until 10.4 gets better. I'm
using Hans-Christoph's 0.38 installer and trying out the 0.39
releases.Thanks for any info.
...no probs here with either compiling for yourself (altho devel_0_39
is problematic atm), or using either miller's or hans' pre-compiled
versions (caveat: remember that you have to open a canvas/window in
order to "activate the preferences menu): I'm running
10.4.2...however, none of these allows focusing of the gem window (if
you need that for, say, gemmouse or gemkeyboard), but that fix is
just around the corner ;-)
l8r, james
i'm running Hans-Christoph's .38-4-extended-RC1 on os x 10.4.2 with
no problems.
-p
On Aug 25, 2005, at 1:46 PM, james tittle wrote:
On Aug 25, 2005, at 12:33 PM, dafydd hughes wrote:
Hi all
Wondering if anybody has advice re running Pd on OS X 10.4. I'm
on 10.3.9 right now, and I have 10.4 sitting here, but I've been
warned off running audio programs until 10.4 gets better. I'm
using Hans-Christoph's 0.38 installer and trying out the 0.39
releases.Thanks for any info.
...no probs here with either compiling for yourself (altho
devel_0_39 is problematic atm), or using either miller's or hans'
pre-compiled versions (caveat: remember that you have to open a
canvas/window in order to "activate the preferences menu): I'm
running 10.4.2...however, none of these allows focusing of the gem
window (if you need that for, say, gemmouse or gemkeyboard), but
that fix is just around the corner ;-)l8r, james
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Same here, no issues with 10.4.2 with PD/GEM with Hans' app
v a d e //
http://homepage.mac.com/doktorp/ doktorp@mac.com
On Aug 25, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Paris Treantafeles wrote:
i'm running Hans-Christoph's .38-4-extended-RC1 on os x 10.4.2 with
no problems.-p
On Aug 25, 2005, at 1:46 PM, james tittle wrote:
On Aug 25, 2005, at 12:33 PM, dafydd hughes wrote:
Hi all
Wondering if anybody has advice re running Pd on OS X 10.4. I'm
on 10.3.9 right now, and I have 10.4 sitting here, but I've been
warned off running audio programs until 10.4 gets better. I'm
using Hans-Christoph's 0.38 installer and trying out the 0.39
releases.Thanks for any info.
...no probs here with either compiling for yourself (altho
devel_0_39 is problematic atm), or using either miller's or hans'
pre-compiled versions (caveat: remember that you have to open a
canvas/window in order to "activate the preferences menu): I'm
running 10.4.2...however, none of these allows focusing of the gem
window (if you need that for, say, gemmouse or gemkeyboard), but
that fix is just around the corner ;-)l8r, james
PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list
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Quoting vade doktorp@mac.com:
Same here, no issues with 10.4.2 with PD/GEM with Hans' app
Try capturing with pix_video and see if it spits out endless errors to the terminal or console. I had to recompile GEM against 10.4/QT 7 to shut it up.
cgc
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Thanks everybody for your replies.
I went ahead and upgraded, but now I get audio dropouts and clicks
when loading samples into tables, which wasn't happening with
10.3.9. I have several questions:
RAM? Is 10.4 perhaps written for faster computers, meaning I should
go back to 10.3?
get better audio performance?
upgrading failed part way through due to unspecified errors. A
second attempt went fine, even though it looks like 10.4 was half
installed (Dashboard was showing etc). Is a clean install in order?
compiling pd-devel 0.38 and using the cb_scheduler flag. I'd like to
try this on the Mac. Can somebody suggest a good set of ./configure
flags and startup flags?
Thanks for any help.
cheers dafydd
Hi,
here's my experience: powerbook 800 MHz, 512 MB RAM running 10.4.2 using hans-christoph's build.
i did a clean install of tiger rather than an upgrade.
i have had no problems. on the other hand, most of what i do is GEM. i do some audio processing but nothing very complex.
feel free to send me a troublesome patch and i can tell you what
happens.
-p
On Aug 26, 2005, at 9:12 AM, dafydd hughes wrote:
Thanks everybody for your replies.
I went ahead and upgraded, but now I get audio dropouts and clicks
when loading samples into tables, which wasn't happening with
10.3.9. I have several questions:
- Anybody running Pd and 10.4 on a G4 Powerbook 867 with 640 MB
RAM? Is 10.4 perhaps written for faster computers, meaning I
should go back to 10.3?
- Are there any background processes I should shut down in order
to get better audio performance?
- Maybe this one's for a Mac list, but... My initial attempt at
upgrading failed part way through due to unspecified errors. A
second attempt went fine, even though it looks like 10.4 was half
installed (Dashboard was showing etc). Is a clean install in order?
- The same problem all but disappeared on my Linux machine by
compiling pd-devel 0.38 and using the cb_scheduler flag. I'd like
to try this on the Mac. Can somebody suggest a good set of ./ configure flags and startup flags?Thanks for any help.
cheers dafydd
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On Aug 26, 2005, at 8:12 AM, dafydd hughes wrote:
- Anybody running Pd and 10.4 on a G4 Powerbook 867 with 640 MB
RAM? Is 10.4 perhaps written for faster computers, meaning I
should go back to 10.3?
I would stick with 10.3 if it was working fine. There aren't a lot
of new audio features in 10.4 that Pd uses and the graphics and video
ones like CoreImage/GLSL you can't use fully on that hardware.
The integrated dictionary is my favorite 10.4 feature so far, which
is pretty faint praise.
- Are there any background processes I should shut down in order
to get better audio performance?
Spotlight. There's a system preference panel for excluding volumes.
Put all of the drives you have in the list. This will disable
searching in the Finder though, so either use locate or a 3rd party
tool. Spotlight is one of the dumbest search implementations ever
developed. It constantly runs checking and indexing new files and
volumes just in case a user happens to search for something on
those. It takes many hours to index a modern hard drive during which
Spotlight monopolizes disk I/O making the computer slow to a crawl.
Dashboard eats a fair amount of RAM, plus it has serious security
issues. Drag it out of the Dock and 'poof' it's gone.
Google for ways to permanently disable these if they are of no use to
you.
- Maybe this one's for a Mac list, but... My initial attempt at
upgrading failed part way through due to unspecified errors. A
second attempt went fine, even though it looks like 10.4 was half
installed (Dashboard was showing etc). Is a clean install in order?
I usually put new OS upgrades on an external Firewire drive for
testing first.
cgc
hi list,
comes a bit late but still:
- Are there any background processes I should shut down in order
to get better audio performance?
yes: macosxhints and other sites offer how-tos for shutting down
dashboard and even spotlight. both consume a lot of cpu and worst of
all: they generate peaks in cpu usage. the other important thing is
to quit mail.
- Maybe this one's for a Mac list, but... My initial attempt at
upgrading failed part way through due to unspecified errors. A
second attempt went fine, even though it looks like 10.4 was half
installed (Dashboard was showing etc). Is a clean install in order?
it is absolutely recommended to do a clean reinstall and not a delta
upgrade. importing the old user worked nearly perfect for me.
lg martin
Thanks Martin, and everybody else who replied.
I've gone back to 10.3.9 for now - I'm finding it more important to get work done (funny - this hasn't happened with Linux, and that's so often given as a reason for not using it) but I'll try again when I'm not working to deadlines.
cheers dafydd
On 30-Aug-05, at 1:50 PM, martin pichlmair wrote:
hi list,
comes a bit late but still:
- Are there any background processes I should shut down in order to
get better audio performance?
yes: macosxhints and other sites offer how-tos for shutting down dashboard and even spotlight. both consume a lot of cpu and worst of all: they generate peaks in cpu usage. the other important thing is to quit mail.
- Maybe this one's for a Mac list, but... My initial attempt at
upgrading failed part way through due to unspecified errors. A second attempt went fine, even though it looks like 10.4 was half installed (Dashboard was showing etc). Is a clean install in order?
it is absolutely recommended to do a clean reinstall and not a delta upgrade. importing the old user worked nearly perfect for me.
lg martin