Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
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As the someone who's been nagging the most about this, let me say:
- I love all that there is to it.
- Best feature added, hands down.
- This is wonderful, you're the man. Sorry if I drove you crazy.
Yes, there are issues I already brought up and I'm still concerned with them, but I wanna make it clear that they don't translate to any sort of objection to these features. So I just hope this is taken and included on the next release, and we deal with those issues in appropriate timing.
cheers and thanks for being awesome and doing awesome stuff
2017-07-30 21:32 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
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Now, in order to make this more like how we've been dealing with "standard path", could the "*externals install directory*" also load its contents to the "help browser"?
That would take one issue out of the way. But it doesn't have to be "now".
cheers
2017-07-31 0:24 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com:
As the someone who's been nagging the most about this, let me say:
- I love all that there is to it.
- Best feature added, hands down.
- This is wonderful, you're the man. Sorry if I drove you crazy.
Yes, there are issues I already brought up and I'm still concerned with them, but I wanna make it clear that they don't translate to any sort of objection to these features. So I just hope this is taken and included on the next release, and we deal with those issues in appropriate timing.
cheers and thanks for being awesome and doing awesome stuff
2017-07-30 21:32 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
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This is great!! Thanks so much Dan! Ideal!
On Jul 30, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
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Dan, this is brilliant! This makes it dead simple for beginners to get started. I also love the docs path setting! Hope this will be merged in!
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Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness. Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message. Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy. Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download. *mic drop* sleep
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+1
!!!!!!!
On Jul 31, 2017, at 6:43 AM, Christof Ressi christof.ressi@gmx.at wrote:
Dan, this is brilliant! This makes it dead simple for beginners to get started. I also love the docs path setting! Hope this will be merged in!
Gesendet: Montag, 31. Juli 2017 um 02:32 Uhr Von: "Dan Wilcox" danomatika@gmail.com An: Pd-List pd-list@lists.iem.at Betreff: [PD] Pd documents path proposal
Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
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Here's the PR and relevant details: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152
On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is available, look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Here's the PR and relevant details: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152
On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Cool, I still don't see the added folder in the help browser, but that's because of another issue that's being solved in parallel, right?
2017-08-01 20:49 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is available, look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip: http://docs. danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Here's the PR and relevant details: https://github.com/ pure-data/pure-data/pull/152
On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
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Ok, first bug report:
- if I choose a different *Externals install Directory* other than the
"externals" subfolder (say "libs" for example) and hit ok, it still creates an "externals" subdirectory and adds it to the search path, whereas "libs" is not added! Though deken still asks me to download to "libs". As I see, it shouldn't create "externals" nor add it to the path, and then add "libs" to the path.
2017-08-01 20:59 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com:
Cool, I still don't see the added folder in the help browser, but that's because of another issue that's being solved in parallel, right?
2017-08-01 20:49 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is available, look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Here's the PR and relevant details: https://github.com/pu re-data/pure-data/pull/152
On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
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Second report:
- I don't know what "disabling" the Pd Documents folder is supposed to do,
but I just get an error
[image: Imagem inline 1]
2017-08-01 21:12 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com:
Ok, first bug report:
- if I choose a different *Externals install Directory* other than the
"externals" subfolder (say "libs" for example) and hit ok, it still creates an "externals" subdirectory and adds it to the search path, whereas "libs" is not added! Though deken still asks me to download to "libs". As I see, it shouldn't create "externals" nor add it to the path, and then add "libs" to the path.
2017-08-01 20:59 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com:
Cool, I still don't see the added folder in the help browser, but that's because of another issue that's being solved in parallel, right?
2017-08-01 20:49 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is available, look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Here's the PR and relevant details: https://github.com/pu re-data/pure-data/pull/152
On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
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PLEASE
Post to the GitHub PR.
Also, the help browser issue is fixed in a different branch.
On Aug 2, 2017, at 2:15 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
Second report:
- I don't know what "disabling" the Pd Documents folder is supposed to do, but I just get an error
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2017-08-01 21:12 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com mailto:porres@gmail.com>: Ok, first bug report:
- if I choose a different Externals install Directory other than the "externals" subfolder (say "libs" for example) and hit ok, it still creates an "externals" subdirectory and adds it to the search path, whereas "libs" is not added! Though deken still asks me to download to "libs". As I see, it shouldn't create "externals" nor add it to the path, and then add "libs" to the path.
2017-08-01 20:59 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com mailto:porres@gmail.com>: Cool, I still don't see the added folder in the help browser, but that's because of another issue that's being solved in parallel, right?
2017-08-01 20:49 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com>: A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is available, look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's the PR and relevant details: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152
On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
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Not everyone may want this functionality... Disabling it means Pd won't nag you if the docs path is not set and new/open panels start in the home directory (as before), not the docs path.
The other stuff you are seeing are bugs from my rewrite earlier today, so easy fixes. Please post bugs only to the GitHub PR.
On Aug 2, 2017, at 2:15 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know what "disabling" the Pd Documents folder is supposed to do
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
There is a new macOS test build with the Pd documents directory feature with bugfixes: Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath2.app.zip at http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ This also includes other bug fixes from the past couple of days.
On Aug 2, 2017, at 1:49 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is available, look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's the PR and relevant details: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152
On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
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I can't give feedback on this. I'm running osx 10.6 on a virtual machine.
Terminal:
exit; Illegal instruction logout
:-(
10.6 is rather old.
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
On 8/3/2017 9:49 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
There is a new macOS test build with the Pd documents directory feature with bugfixes: Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath2.app.zip at http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
This also includes other bug fixes from the past couple of days.
Hi Dan,
I tried Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath3.app.zip on osx 10.11.6
Paths Documents/Pd, and the sub dir 'externals' were all created
It also gets added, after about one second delay, with message (log 4), which is puzzling, but i guess needed: " Pd documents directory: /Users/federicocamarahalac/Documents/Pd "
Whenever I manually change something (verbose, standar paths, add path, etc) and hit OK, I get an app error, with these details:
invalid command name "1"
invalid command name "1"
while executing
"[::pd_docsdir::update_path $docspath]"
(procedure "dialog_path::commit" line 21)
invoked from within
"$commit_method $listdata"
(procedure "do_apply" line 2)
invoked from within
"do_apply $mytoplevel $commit_method $listdata"
(procedure "::scrollboxwindow::ok" line 4)
invoked from within
"::scrollboxwindow::ok .gfxstub79f80d60 dialog_path::commit"
invoked from within
".gfxstub79f80d60.nb.buttonframe.ok invoke"
("uplevel" body line 1)
invoked from within
"uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]"
(procedure "tk::ButtonUp" line 23)
invoked from within
"tk::ButtonUp .gfxstub79f80d60.nb.buttonframe.ok"
(command bound to event)
Changes get made, though, so the error is puzzling. Other dialogs works fine.
Startup Dialog: Not a huge deal, but it doesn't come to front when another dialog is open. Will this dialog disappear in the future? I think it's going in that direction
Side note: In the Pd Browser it shows "-----Libraries----" and you have them created under "Pd/externals". I know there's been conversations in the list about this, but I wonder if these shouldn't be at least unified temporarily within pd. I believe Deken already says 'externals' everywhere. It would be useful for translating as well. I like "libraries", because it's more encompassing, but this is confusing when the library is of one external, like those in the extra folder. It might be just easier to think of the 'extra' as a library in itself i guess, and have this as a directory entry.
Pd Browser:
navigating to more than 3 sub directories are not showing. For example, the only option here is to open up the Finder, with double-click or with Return:
externals/Gem/examples/01.basic
I had some issues with Deken, where should I write these?
Thanks for all the changes, you're really sharpening the hell out of the gui.. Very nice!!
fede
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 8:49 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
There is a new macOS test build with the Pd documents directory feature with bugfixes: Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath2.app.zip at http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
This also includes other bug fixes from the past couple of days.
On Aug 2, 2017, at 1:49 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is available, look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip: http://docs. danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Here's the PR and relevant details: https://github.com/ pure-data/pure-data/pull/152
On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the user search paths via a popup after download.
*mic drop*
sleep
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On Aug 4, 2017, at 11:46 PM, Federico Camara Halac camarafede@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dan,
I tried Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath3.app.zip on osx 10.11.6
Paths Documents/Pd, and the sub dir 'externals' were all created
It also gets added, after about one second delay, with message (log 4), which is puzzling, but i guess needed: " Pd documents directory: /Users/federicocamarahalac/Documents/Pd "
There is 1 second delay after starting the GUI before the docs directory path is checked. The print comes after that to confirm the current path at start.
Whenever I manually change something (verbose, standar paths, add path, etc) and hit OK, I get an app error, with these details:
invalid command name "1" invalid command name "1" while executing "[::pd_docsdir::update_path $docspath]" (procedure "dialog_path::commit" line 21)
Fixed.
Startup Dialog: Not a huge deal, but it doesn't come to front when another dialog is open.
I'm not seeing that behavior, unless you mean under the audio or midi dialogs which are always on top of other windows when open.
Will this dialog disappear in the future? I think it's going in that direction
If someone wants to work on that, maybe. Probably not me any time soon after this release. I have some ideas, but I *really* have to get work on other things after this release.
Side note: In the Pd Browser it shows "-----Libraries----" and you have them created under "Pd/externals". I know there's been conversations in the list about this, but I wonder if these shouldn't be at least unified temporarily within pd. I believe Deken already says 'externals' everywhere. It would be useful for translating as well. I like "libraries", because it's more encompassing, but this is confusing when the library is of one external, like those in the extra folder. It might be just easier to think of the 'extra' as a library in itself i guess, and have this as a directory entry.
I can change the naming of Libraries to Externals, but I am not changing the listing behavior for now. Especially after spending time just putting it back together after the user search path stuff was removed previously.
Browser updates won't appear in the docs path test builds as that work is in another branch.
Pd Browser:
navigating to more than 3 sub directories are not showing. For example, the only option here is to open up the Finder, with double-click or with Return:
externals/Gem/examples/01.basic
That's because I limited the max # of cols to 3 because there is no horizontal scroll bar aka if you keep opening new columns, you can scroll back unless you click back or use the keyboard. We can bump the max to 4 if you want. I didn't feel like spending another *1-2 whole days* on adding & testing browser horz scrolling...
I had some issues with Deken, where should I write these?
Open an issue on the deken GitHub repo: https://github.com/pure-data/deken/issues https://github.com/pure-data/deken/issues
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I'm not seeing that behavior, unless you mean under the audio or midi dialogs which are always on top of other windows when open.
You're right. That's what I was encountering.
I can change the naming of Libraries to Externals, but I am not changing the listing behavior for now. Especially after spending time just putting it back together after the user search path stuff was removed previously.
That's fine, i'm just being picky now.
That's because I limited the max # of cols to 3 because there is no horizontal scroll bar aka if you keep opening new columns, you can scroll back unless you click back or use the keyboard. We can bump the max to 4 if you want. I didn't feel like spending another *1-2 whole days* on adding & testing browser horz scrolling...
Ha! ok, 4 colums should do it, but that's about the limit for 13.3'' display i guess
About the Deken issue, I thought it was it but it wasnt.
I think what happened was that the first time i opened your previous built, Pd created Pd/externals, and I immediately tried getting gem, and had issues with the extraction, getting duplicate folders + tar file (same with zexy, tof, cyclone,etc)
Now I just tried Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath4.app and Deken could download and extract Gem perfectly to Pd/extenals
I think it is because pd/externals was already created beforehand, but i havent tested that
translating: I noticed newer strings. When and where would it be safe to make a PR for spanish before the release?
You might wait for some more feedback, but I don't anticipate changing too many more of the base strings so far.
You can make a PR to the feature/docsdir branch.
On Aug 5, 2017, at 12:45 AM, Federico Camara Halac camarafede@gmail.com wrote:
translating: I noticed newer strings. When and where would it be safe to make a PR for spanish before the release?
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New macOS 10.9+ test build Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath4.app.zip: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
Includes latest bug fix from test3-docspath3.
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