I know the subject of this post sounds like it would be more apt for
Which? Mobile or something, but please bear with me.....the reason for
me posting here will become clear :) i will be getting a new
smartphone soon, now I have a few choices:
iphone Android Palm Windows Mobile
I would like to know which would best for making sounds with, and in
the future, running Pd on ultimately. I know iPhone shared the glut of
music apps at present, and Android is seemingly devoid of audio apps.
I guess the Palm isn't really relevant.
For some reason i am turned off the the idea of an iphone - that isn't
an anti-apple thing - all the computers i use are apple. I am
attracted to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for
it at the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion
on that front soon, and in the future due to the nature of the
platform, is best stead for things to come. What a crazy scenario!
So my question is; what is the best, or WILL be the best smartphone
for running audio apps?
cheers
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +0000, Si Mills wrote:
to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on that front soon,
I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT.
Chris.
same problem here, not sure what to get. another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia n900, which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs maemo (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of maemo - it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both do not run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the iphone. marius.
2009/10/29 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx:
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +0000, Si Mills wrote:
to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on that front soon,
I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT.
Chris.
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THere are a number of developments in this regard:
- Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for Android and
Apple iPhoneOS. Maemo should be pretty easy too. No audio yet, but
that's in the works.
- Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while, that
means lots of devices if you are willing to install your own OS. You
can install Debian in parallel with Android.
- you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros, like
Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods, Palms, etc.
rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to work well
there. Android will take a fair amount of work to get up to the same
level, but in the long run will probably be easier since the platform
is a lot more open.
.hc
On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote:
same problem here, not sure what to get. another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia n900, which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs maemo (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of maemo - it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both do not run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the iphone. marius.
2009/10/29 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx:
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +0000, Si Mills wrote:
to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on
that front soon,I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT.
Chris.
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SO this is certainly interesting
When you say Pd builds for Android and iphone, but no audio, what does
that mean? THe pd gui works?
I have a feeling, in the end, i might play devils advocate and go with
the android phone.........
On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
THere are a number of developments in this regard:
- Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for Android
and Apple iPhoneOS. Maemo should be pretty easy too. No audio yet,
but that's in the works.
- Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while, that
means lots of devices if you are willing to install your own OS.
You can install Debian in parallel with Android.
- you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros, like
Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods, Palms, etc.
rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to work
well there. Android will take a fair amount of work to get up to
the same level, but in the long run will probably be easier since
the platform is a lot more open..hc
On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote:
same problem here, not sure what to get. another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia n900, which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs maemo (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of maemo - it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both do not run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the
iphone. marius.2009/10/29 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx:
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +0000, Si Mills wrote:
to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at
the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on
that front soon,I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT.
Chris.
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Everything works but audio input and output, but that's in the works.
Externals work too, if you use a jailbroken device, you don't need to
heed Apple's lame restrictions.
.hc
On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Si Mills wrote:
SO this is certainly interesting
When you say Pd builds for Android and iphone, but no audio, what
does that mean? THe pd gui works?I have a feeling, in the end, i might play devils advocate and go
with the android phone.........On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
THere are a number of developments in this regard:
- Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for Android
and Apple iPhoneOS. Maemo should be pretty easy too. No audio
yet, but that's in the works.
- Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while,
that means lots of devices if you are willing to install your own
OS. You can install Debian in parallel with Android.
- you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros, like
Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods, Palms, etc.
rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to work
well there. Android will take a fair amount of work to get up to
the same level, but in the long run will probably be easier since
the platform is a lot more open..hc
On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote:
same problem here, not sure what to get. another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia n900, which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs
maemo (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of maemo - it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both do
not run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the
iphone. marius.2009/10/29 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx:
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +0000, Si Mills wrote:
to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at
the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on
that front soon,I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT.
Chris.
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telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out
how to use my telephone." --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++)
how about control? I was hoping of in the future perform in the middle of
the room with a htc magic (or something) controlling my patch on the
laptop in the stage. is osc already available in all these platforms?
Everything works but audio input and output, but that's in the works.
Externals work too, if you use a jailbroken device, you don't need to
heed Apple's lame restrictions..hc
On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Si Mills wrote:
SO this is certainly interesting
When you say Pd builds for Android and iphone, but no audio, what does
that mean? THe pd gui works?I have a feeling, in the end, i might play devils advocate and go with
the android phone.........On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
THere are a number of developments in this regard:
- Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for Android and
Apple iPhoneOS. Maemo should be pretty easy too. No audio yet, but
that's in the works.
- Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while, that
means lots of devices if you are willing to install your own OS. You
can install Debian in parallel with Android.
- you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros, like
Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods, Palms, etc.
rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to work well
there. Android will take a fair amount of work to get up to the same
level, but in the long run will probably be easier since the platform
is a lot more open..hc
On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote:
same problem here, not sure what to get. another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia n900, which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs maemo (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of maemo - it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both do not run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the iphone. marius.
2009/10/29 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx:
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +0000, Si Mills wrote:
to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on that
front soon,I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT.
Chris.
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Yes of course. RIght now you can do everything in a Pd patch in both
Android and iPhoneOS except input/output audio or MIDI. So netsend/
netreceive work, for example. You could build a streaming externals
to stream audio in/out.
We'll get the audio stuff ironed out soon, there is some code in the
works.
.hc
On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:53 PM, João Pais wrote:
how about control? I was hoping of in the future perform in the
middle of the room with a htc magic (or something) controlling my
patch on the laptop in the stage. is osc already available in all
these platforms?Everything works but audio input and output, but that's in the
works. Externals work too, if you use a jailbroken device, you
don't need to heed Apple's lame restrictions..hc
On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Si Mills wrote:
SO this is certainly interesting
When you say Pd builds for Android and iphone, but no audio, what
does that mean? THe pd gui works?I have a feeling, in the end, i might play devils advocate and go
with the android phone.........On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
THere are a number of developments in this regard:
- Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for Android
and Apple iPhoneOS. Maemo should be pretty easy too. No audio
yet, but that's in the works.
- Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while,
that means lots of devices if you are willing to install your own
OS. You can install Debian in parallel with Android.
- you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros, like
Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods, Palms, etc.
rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to work
well there. Android will take a fair amount of work to get up to
the same level, but in the long run will probably be easier since
the platform is a lot more open..hc
On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote:
same problem here, not sure what to get. another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia n900, which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs
maemo (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of
maemo - it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both
do not run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the
iphone. marius.2009/10/29 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx:
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +0000, Si Mills wrote: > to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it
> at the > moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on
> that front > soon,I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT.
Chris.
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Hi Hans,
I'm curious about the iPhone port:
What's the main broad goal of this effort? (I mean other than the
obvious of having Pd working on iPhone, which will be great!).
Is the plan to have Pd for iPhone as an open-source app for the
community? - i.e. for jailbroken itouch things?
Will the audio i/o code be open source (is that even possible with
Apple), and if so, which license?
Or is this a private experiment?
Can you elaborate, or did I miss something on the list?
cheers Nick
On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Yes of course. RIght now you can do everything in a Pd patch in
both Android and iPhoneOS except input/output audio or MIDI. So
netsend/netreceive work, for example. You could build a streaming
externals to stream audio in/out.We'll get the audio stuff ironed out soon, there is some code in the
works..hc
On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:53 PM, João Pais wrote:
how about control? I was hoping of in the future perform in the
middle of the room with a htc magic (or something) controlling my
patch on the laptop in the stage. is osc already available in all
these platforms?Everything works but audio input and output, but that's in the
works. Externals work too, if you use a jailbroken device, you
don't need to heed Apple's lame restrictions..hc
On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Si Mills wrote:
SO this is certainly interesting
When you say Pd builds for Android and iphone, but no audio, what
does that mean? THe pd gui works?I have a feeling, in the end, i might play devils advocate and go
with the android phone.........On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
THere are a number of developments in this regard:
- Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for
Android and Apple iPhoneOS. Maemo should be pretty easy too.
No audio yet, but that's in the works.
- Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while,
that means lots of devices if you are willing to install your
own OS. You can install Debian in parallel with Android.
- you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros, like
Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods, Palms, etc.
rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to work
well there. Android will take a fair amount of work to get up
to the same level, but in the long run will probably be easier
since the platform is a lot more open..hc
On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote:
same problem here, not sure what to get. another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia
n900, which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs
maemo (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of
maemo - it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both
do not run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the
iphone. marius.2009/10/29 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +0000, Si Mills wrote: >> to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it
>> at the >> moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion
>> on that front >> soon, > > I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT. > > Chris. > > ------------------- > http://mccormick.cx > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >
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From my point of view, the iphone is a pretty nice piece of hardware
that Pd runs pretty well on it, and its easy to use when its
jailbroken. Its also incredibly lame having to work around Apple's
greed-driven restrictions. It would be pretty easy to get almost all
of Pd-extended running on it. I have already gotten a few externals
running on the iphone without much work at all.
The only real missing piece is the audio I/O, but that is not too hard
to do. Ideally, the rjdj crew would release their audio I/O code to
be included in Pd-vanilla and we should share the work of maintenance
and improvements. But that's not the only way to get it done. I'm
here at Mobile Art & Code talking with Memo Akten and Zach Gage, the
two openFrameworks/iPhone developers, and they have open source audio
code that should be pretty easy to plug into Pd. SuperCollider has
been ported to the iPhone too, but I haven't been able to find that
code.
.hc
On Nov 4, 2009, at 6:20 AM, Nicholas Mariette wrote:
Hi Hans,
I'm curious about the iPhone port:
What's the main broad goal of this effort? (I mean other than the
obvious of having Pd working on iPhone, which will be great!). Is the plan to have Pd for iPhone as an open-source app for the
community? - i.e. for jailbroken itouch things?Will the audio i/o code be open source (is that even possible with
Apple), and if so, which license? Or is this a private experiment?Can you elaborate, or did I miss something on the list?
cheers Nick
On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Yes of course. RIght now you can do everything in a Pd patch in
both Android and iPhoneOS except input/output audio or MIDI. So
netsend/netreceive work, for example. You could build a streaming
externals to stream audio in/out.We'll get the audio stuff ironed out soon, there is some code in
the works..hc
On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:53 PM, João Pais wrote:
how about control? I was hoping of in the future perform in the
middle of the room with a htc magic (or something) controlling my
patch on the laptop in the stage. is osc already available in all
these platforms?Everything works but audio input and output, but that's in the
works. Externals work too, if you use a jailbroken device, you
don't need to heed Apple's lame restrictions..hc
On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Si Mills wrote:
SO this is certainly interesting
When you say Pd builds for Android and iphone, but no audio,
what does that mean? THe pd gui works?I have a feeling, in the end, i might play devils advocate and
go with the android phone.........On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
THere are a number of developments in this regard:
- Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for
Android and Apple iPhoneOS. Maemo should be pretty easy too.
No audio yet, but that's in the works.
- Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while,
that means lots of devices if you are willing to install your
own OS. You can install Debian in parallel with Android.
- you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros,
like Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods,
Palms, etc.rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to
work well there. Android will take a fair amount of work to
get up to the same level, but in the long run will probably be
easier since the platform is a lot more open..hc
On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote:
> same problem here, not sure what to get. > another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia
> n900, > which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it
> runs maemo > (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of
> maemo - > it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. > But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. > for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both
> do not > run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the
> iphone. > marius. > > 2009/10/29 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx: >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +0000, Si Mills wrote: >>> to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for
>>> it at the >>> moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion
>>> on that front >>> soon, >> >> I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT. >> >> Chris. >> >> ------------------- >> http://mccormick.cx >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
From my point of view, the iphone is a pretty nice piece of hardware that Pd runs pretty well on it, and its easy to use when its jailbroken. Its also incredibly lame having to work around Apple's greed-driven restrictions.
It's not Apple's fault, they had focus groups involving their most rabid fans, and the fans requested a jail that they would have to break out of. Apple obeyed, provided this construction of situation as a feature, and now those fans can Subvert Technology (tm) in a standardised manner provided by the establishment. The next advertisements of iPhones feature silhouettes of poseurs in the process of jailbreaking.
I agree that for anybody wanting to just see the iPhone as a simply good piece of semiconductor, it can be frustrating.
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The only real missing piece is the audio I/O, but that is not too hard to do. Ideally, the rjdj crew would release their audio I/O code to be included in Pd-vanilla and we should share the work of maintenance and improvements. But that's not the only way to get it done. I'm here at Mobile Art & Code talking with Memo Akten and Zach Gage, the two openFrameworks/iPhone developers, and they have open source audio code that should be pretty easy to plug into Pd. SuperCollider has been ported to the iPhone too, but I haven't been able to find that code.
as I understood, openframeworks is using rtAudio, which is certainly a good choice, as it is designed for real-time. But why portaudio (the current audio implementation in pd if I'm right) would not work on an iPhone ? loic
On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:59 AM, loic kessous wrote:
The only real missing piece is the audio I/O, but that is not too
hard to do. Ideally, the rjdj crew would release their audio I/O
code to be included in Pd-vanilla and we should share the work of
maintenance and improvements. But that's not the only way to get it
done. I'm here at Mobile Art & Code talking with Memo Akten and
Zach Gage, the two openFrameworks/iPhone developers, and they have
open source audio code that should be pretty easy to plug into Pd.
SuperCollider has been ported to the iPhone too, but I haven't been
able to find that code.as I understood, openframeworks is using rtAudio, which is certainly
a good choice, as it is designed for real-time. But why portaudio
(the current audio implementation in pd if I'm right) would not work
on an iPhone ? loic
The iPhone uses the AudioQueue API for sound I/O, which portaudio does
not support.
.hc
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Hallo!
João Pais schrieb:
how about control? I was hoping of in the future perform in the middle of the room with a htc magic (or something) controlling my patch on the laptop in the stage. is osc already available in all these platforms?
Yeah, there is such an application (with osc) on the android phone ...
LG Georg
Everything works but audio input and output, but that's in the works.
Externals work too, if you use a jailbroken device, you don't need to heed Apple's lame restrictions..hc
On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Si Mills wrote:
SO this is certainly interesting
When you say Pd builds for Android and iphone, but no audio, what does that mean? THe pd gui works?
I have a feeling, in the end, i might play devils advocate and go with the android phone.........
On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
THere are a number of developments in this regard:
- Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for Android
and Apple iPhoneOS. Maemo should be pretty easy too. No audio yet, but that's in the works.
- Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while, that
means lots of devices if you are willing to install your own OS.
You can install Debian in parallel with Android.
- you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros, like
Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods, Palms, etc.
rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to work well there. Android will take a fair amount of work to get up to the same level, but in the long run will probably be easier since the platform is a lot more open.
.hc
On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote:
same problem here, not sure what to get. another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia n900, which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs maemo (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of maemo - it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both do not run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the iphone. marius.
2009/10/29 Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx:
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +0000, Si Mills wrote: > to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at the > moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on > that front > soon,
I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT.
Chris.
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