HI all,
THe width of the font size that appears as "12" changed at some point (I tried to get Linux and Windows versions to be approximately the same). It looks like I didn't "expand" some of the older help windows to match.
In order to work well on all platforms, "help"windows should be in 12 points. Many of the ones I'm distributing are 10 though ... 10 is the default point size on Linux (which has smaller and more readable fonts than Windows...)
Anyway, I'll look through the help windows in the distribution and get the old ones up to grade in the 0.35 release (in a couple of months I hope.)
cheers Miller
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 07:21:08PM -0800, Joschi wrote:
i meant to repl;y to the list...
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Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 19:20:01 -0800 From: Joschi joschi@eds.org Subject: Re: [PD] cleaning up help... In-reply-to: 3C11778A.F2EA409E@westnet.com To: Larry Troxler lt@westnet.com X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release)
Yes, I _think_ its related to some font handling changes Miller has been making, but that is guesswork on my part.
-Josh
On Fri, 2001-12-07 at 18:14, Larry Troxler wrote:
Josh Steiner wrote:
Hey folks, I'm just wondering if I go thorugh and clean up some of the screwed up help patches (like route.pd) if they could be re-encorperated into the main pd distribitution. My soundcard isn't supported on linux, so i tend to only use on windows 2000, so I am making the assumption that the screwed up patches happen across platforms, but perhaps there is just a problem on win2k.
Josh .. Yoshi .. Joschi .. xiphoidprocess.com .. eds.org/~joschi
By screwed up, do you mean by any chance that some coments texts overwrites other comments?
If so, what is the basic problem here? I don't remember seeing these kind of problems until lately, but I had wrote it off as being a problem with my latest Linux upgrade.
Larry
I compiled an ASIO version of PD using PortAudio v1.7 with the beta ASIO drivers and Steinberg's ASIO 2.0 SDK. The program compiled successfully using s_mac.c and s_portaudio.c with MSVC++ 6.0.
Both audio input and output are working as tested on a DIGIGRAM VxPocket v2.0 PCMCIA audio card running on a Sony Vaio under win2k with the latest driver package from Digigram (v4.4c). I tested it with a microphone and monitor speakers.
The software reports 12ms latency for each device: i.e. 24ms I/O latency. This corresponds with what I heard and is a significant improvement over the ~350ms latency reported when using the Microsoft Wave or DirectX drivers.
Here's the PortAudio startup report:
P:\pd\bin>pd MIDI: not yet implemented read/write PaASIO_QueryDeviceInfo: numDrivers = 1 PaASIO_QueryDeviceInfo: InputChannels = 2 PaASIO_QueryDeviceInfo: OutputChannels = 2 PortAudio : possible sample rate = 32000 PortAudio : possible sample rate = 44100 PortAudio : possible sample rate = 48000
PortAudio : minSize = 504 PortAudio : preferredSize = 512 PortAudio : maxSize = 2016 PortAudio : granularity = 126 PortAudio : User buffer size = 128 PortAudio : ASIO buffer size = 512 PortAudio : Minimum BufferOffset for Output = 0 PortAudio : ASIOCreateBuffers with size = 512 PortAudio : InputLatency = 572 latency = 12 msec PortAudio : OuputLatency = 572 latency = 12 msec
To do: create a new file called s_nt_asio.c that includes the NT MIDI interfaces as well as the PortAudio calls from s_mac.c. Has someone done this already ? If not, I'll try and make it.
Best regards,
Mike Casey www.media.mit.edu/~mkc
----- Original Message ----- From: "Miller Puckette" mpuckett@man104-1.ucsd.edu To: "mark" mark@junklight.com Cc: "Matthew Nish-Lapidus" mattn-l@rogers.com; "PD List" pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [PD] ASIO drivers in windows
Hi all,
There's a Pd "portaudio" interface (in s_mac.c and s_portaudio.c), and portaudio supports ASIO in "beta"... see http://www.portaudio.com/
So in principle you can get Pd to talk to ASIO by just linking it all toghether. I haven't tried this because I don't have any soundcards in my Windows machine that support ASIO.
Fabulous! I tried something like this a while ago, but never got there.
It's news to me that ASIO has MIDI support... if they do I'm sure that's better than the "mm" version too.
I was hoping to make ASIO and MM run-time switchable; if you throw me the sources I'll be happy to work that in (although perhaps not elegantly).
cheers Miller
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 06:24:46PM -0500, Michael Casey wrote:
I compiled an ASIO version of PD using PortAudio v1.7 with the beta ASIO drivers and Steinberg's ASIO 2.0 SDK. The program compiled successfully using s_mac.c and s_portaudio.c with MSVC++ 6.0.
Both audio input and output are working as tested on a DIGIGRAM VxPocket v2.0 PCMCIA audio card running on a Sony Vaio under win2k with the latest driver package from Digigram (v4.4c). I tested it with a microphone and monitor speakers.
The software reports 12ms latency for each device: i.e. 24ms I/O latency. This corresponds with what I heard and is a significant improvement over the ~350ms latency reported when using the Microsoft Wave or DirectX drivers.
Here's the PortAudio startup report:
P:\pd\bin>pd MIDI: not yet implemented read/write PaASIO_QueryDeviceInfo: numDrivers = 1 PaASIO_QueryDeviceInfo: InputChannels = 2 PaASIO_QueryDeviceInfo: OutputChannels = 2 PortAudio : possible sample rate = 32000 PortAudio : possible sample rate = 44100 PortAudio : possible sample rate = 48000
PortAudio : minSize = 504 PortAudio : preferredSize = 512 PortAudio : maxSize = 2016 PortAudio : granularity = 126 PortAudio : User buffer size = 128 PortAudio : ASIO buffer size = 512 PortAudio : Minimum BufferOffset for Output = 0 PortAudio : ASIOCreateBuffers with size = 512 PortAudio : InputLatency = 572 latency = 12 msec PortAudio : OuputLatency = 572 latency = 12 msec
To do: create a new file called s_nt_asio.c that includes the NT MIDI interfaces as well as the PortAudio calls from s_mac.c. Has someone done this already ? If not, I'll try and make it.
Best regards,
Mike Casey www.media.mit.edu/~mkc
----- Original Message ----- From: "Miller Puckette" mpuckett@man104-1.ucsd.edu To: "mark" mark@junklight.com Cc: "Matthew Nish-Lapidus" mattn-l@rogers.com; "PD List" pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [PD] ASIO drivers in windows
Hi all,
There's a Pd "portaudio" interface (in s_mac.c and s_portaudio.c), and portaudio supports ASIO in "beta"... see http://www.portaudio.com/
So in principle you can get Pd to talk to ASIO by just linking it all toghether. I haven't tried this because I don't have any soundcards in my Windows machine that support ASIO.
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Joschi -
Michael Casey -
Miller Puckette