Hello
I have an old Pentium 1 MMX 100 MHz laptop that I would like to use for MIDI controlling with Pure Data under Linux. Is it possible ? I'm afraid the Tcl/Tk GUI will be very slow
Also, which Linux distribution would you install ? I currently use PlanetCCRMA RH on my desktop computer
Maybe using a classic MIDI sequencer would be better ...
Thanks for you advice
-j
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 08:21:45PM +0200, julien.breval@tremplin-utc.net wrote:
Hello
I have an old Pentium 1 MMX 100 MHz laptop that I would like to use for MIDI controlling with Pure Data under Linux. Is it possible ? I'm afraid the Tcl/Tk GUI will be very slow
i had a 150 mhz pentium laptop (before i destroyed it) and pure data would not run on it. i mean it would launch..and then take over 100% cpu and be more or less useless. this was with win95, and also with debian. you're welcome to give it a shot, perhaps if you use the -noadc or -noaudio flags you will get better results. pd is quite usable on my 262mhz powerMac however...(also running debian)
Also, which Linux distribution would you install ? I currently use PlanetCCRMA RH on my desktop computer
Maybe using a classic MIDI sequencer would be better ...
julien.breval@tremplin-utc.net wrote:
I have an old Pentium 1 MMX 100 MHz laptop that I would like to use for MIDI controlling with Pure Data under Linux. Is it possible ? I'm afraid the Tcl/Tk GUI will be very slow
You could run PD --nogui and that would probably solve to problem. Then control remotely via netsend/recieve or OSC. Or even try it with the GUI and see what happens. Trick would be to use a super-light window manager.
Also, which Linux distribution would you install ? I currently use PlanetCCRMA RH on my desktop computer
Stripped down Debian or Gentoo. Blackbox or fluxbox window manager, maybe something even lighter.
Maybe using a classic MIDI sequencer would be better ...
No sense in not trying! I think it's a fine idea.
d.
No worries! At 100MHz a fresh install of Win2k+SP4+Pd runs fine with a decent graphics card and soundcard at 100% acceleration. Graphics and sound(MIDI) should be PCI based, not ISA. I expect Linux will run at least as well. MIDI timing accuracy can suffer with audio running, so -noaudio. GUI objects (numbers, sliders, bangs, toggles, etc) are CPU hogs, so minimize or close the windows containing them while "running". After your patch works, and you have console keyboard controls working with [key] or network controls with [netreceive], you can certainly start pd -nogui
By the way, since your CPU is MMX, DSP things can run surprisingly well if you decide to try using them.
Lex
julien.breval@tremplin-utc.net wrote:
Hello
I have an old Pentium 1 MMX 100 MHz laptop that I would like to use for MIDI controlling with Pure Data under Linux. Is it possible ? I'm afraid the Tcl/Tk GUI will be very slow
Also, which Linux distribution would you install ? I currently use PlanetCCRMA RH on my desktop computer
Maybe using a classic MIDI sequencer would be better ...
Thanks for you advice
-j
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, chris clepper wrote:
On Jun 30, 2004, at 2:31 PM, Lex Ein wrote:
By the way, since your CPU is MMX, DSP things can run surprisingly well if you decide to try using them.
The Pentium II was the first Intel CPU with MMX, and they had clocks starting around 233Mhz or so.
There's an intermediary model that was called the "Pentium MMX" that was a Pentium I plus MMX. I think I recall they were produced at 166 MHz, and I don't know which other clockrates, maybe the 133-233 range ?
Mathieu Bouchard http://artengine.ca/matju
By the way, since your CPU is MMX, DSP things can run surprisingly well if you decide to try using them.
i'm not sure, if mmx would improve the dsp performance a lot. iirc the mmx instruction set is used for integer operations ... since the samples in pd are represented as floats, pd's dsp operations shouldn't be able to use them ... the instruction set pd benefits from is sse...
cheers... tim
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I have an old Pentium 1 MMX 100 MHz laptop that I would like to use for MIDI controlling with Pure Data under Linux. Is it possible ? I'm afraid the Tcl/Tk GUI will be very slow
I ran pd (debian, blackbox) on a 120Mhz pentium a while ago even doing audio (with -r 22050) but with -nosound only for midi it should be fine.
Also, which Linux distribution would you install ?
I would always go for debian, in your case maybe slackware is a better choice.
just make sure you kill everything you don't need, (down to syslog if necessary) make a custom kernel with preemption turned on and turn off swapping if you have enough ram.
good luck,
x
thanks for all your suggestions
I will try to install a minimal Linux (like slackware or knoppix or something like this), with the most simple window manager I hope it will work
Currently, with W98, it's quite difficult to use less than 100% CPU Maybe W2k or Linux would be better This is an old laptop that was to be thrown when I got it for free ; I used it for playing MIDI sequences from Cakewalk into a hardware sampler
I will also use this PC for non realtime audio processing and composing (with Scilab software)
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