I also think that segmented patch cords and a way to know what each inlet/outlet stands for should have a higher priority than moving to another gui toolkit. Adding the option to group-assign color to message/object/number boxes should not be too difficult and probably would help readability.
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Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:52:36 -0500 From: Michal Seta mis@creazone.32k.org Subject: Re: [PD] about pd's gui To: pd-list@iem.at
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 19:46, Jerome Etienne wrote:
pd is a graphical language, so a nice gui isn't a luxury.
Isn't adding 'niceties' to existing, working products a luxury?
it provide good readability, which improve the developpement time and even more the maintenance time.
I don't think that 'nice' will accomplish the above. But I would opt for more functional. Segmented patch cords would be welcome (although I have learnt to live with the way they are now) and inlet/outlet hints would be a nice aid. I don't see the need to put a lot effort into porting the gui into some fashionable graphical toolkit. Adding some resources should probably be easier and more intelligent.
As per GUI frontends to patches, the possibilities are already there: GriPD, python extern (and through python you can use wxWindows, QT, GTK, SDL, tk, etc), and, of course, writing a separate frontend in _any_ language and communicating via tcp/ip or OSC, or MIDI.
pedro@incidentsmemorables.org wrote:
Selon tzahm@punkass.com:
I also think that segmented patch cords and a way to know what each inlet/outlet stands for should have a higher priority than moving to another gui toolkit.
yes - agree
Yes, and uniquely coloured patch cords for each connection - rainbow spaghetti is easier to figure out. Martin
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 15:13, Martin Peach wrote:
yes - agree
Yes, and uniquely coloured patch cords for each connection - rainbow spaghetti is easier to figure out. Martin
Hey, that's an idea! Actually, it'd be way cooler if the signal patch cords changed colors depending on (1) rms or (2) frequency of the signal (it could be user configurable) and the control patch cords would just blink yellow or somesuch depending on their state.
Oh, and transparent main canvas a la Eterm.
for performances, it would be very helpful if it was possible to change the size of a number box at will, like toggle etc. i often use a clock or metro for orientation.
joh.
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Selon tzahm@punkass.com:
I also think that segmented patch cords and a way to know what each inlet/outlet stands for should have a higher priority than moving to another gui toolkit.
yes - agree
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Hallo, Johannes Kreidler hat gesagt: // Johannes Kreidler wrote:
for performances, it would be very helpful if it was possible to change the size of a number box at will, like toggle etc. i often use a clock or metro for orientation.
You can't change it for the normal number box, but you could use the "nbx" numbers (called "Number2" in menu) instead, which offer the same settings as sliders, toggles, ...
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
You can't change it for the normal number box, but you could use the "nbx" numbers (called "Number2" in menu) instead, which offer the same settings as sliders, toggles, ...
yeah, the size of the box can be changed, but when playing different instruments and maybe acting as well, it could be a help if the number itself appeared in that size, in same cases maybe over the whole screen.. [i think of showing bar numbers for different orchestra groups like in the opera of lachenmann].
joh.
At 13:56 25-11-03 +0100, you wrote:
yeah, the size of the box can be changed, but when playing different instruments and maybe acting as well, it could be a help if the number itself appeared in that size, in same cases maybe over the whole screen.. [i think of showing bar numbers for different orchestra groups like in the opera of lachenmann].
you can set the font size independantly from the box size in the properties dialog you get by rightclicking a number2 box
cfr:
#N canvas 0 0 452 302 12; #X obj 56 93 nbx 5 50 -1e+037 1e+037 0 0 empty empty number2 25 -20 0 50 -355 -241291 -1 67 256;
cheers,
xof
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Hallo, Johannes Kreidler hat gesagt: // Johannes Kreidler wrote:
You can't change it for the normal number box, but you could use the "nbx" numbers (called "Number2" in menu) instead, which offer the same settings as sliders, toggles, ...
yeah, the size of the box can be changed, but when playing different instruments and maybe acting as well, it could be a help if the number itself appeared in that size, in same cases maybe over the whole screen.. [i think of showing bar numbers for different orchestra groups like in the opera of lachenmann].
You can also change the number size. It's a bit below under font size.
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
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