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Rua Haszard Morris

13 Nov 2008 13 Nov '08

7:34 a.m.

I'm having trouble getting seq to work - I'm using pd-extended 0.40.3 running on linux/debian/64studio.

I have the midi outs of PD connected to amSynth via ALSA midi in JACK (QJackCtl).

noteout in "test audio and midi" works ok, and plays notes on amSynth, but the seq test patch, routed to midiout, doesn't seem to produce any notes.

It is producing something, as I connected things randomly up to a noteout and was able to make some noises..

Can someone give me some pointers on why midiout (or seq?) might be misbehaving? Can someone else running 0.40.3 on linux check that the seq-help patch is working for them?

Thanks Rua HM

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Rua Haszard Morris

16 Nov 16 Nov

10:05 p.m.

New subject: seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback

I didn't get any responses to my previous message - was it filtered away due to links in my sig? Anyway, reposting with a bit more info. This all relates to pd-extended 0.40.3 on various platforms

I am unable to get the seq help patch to work correctly for playback on linux. I am running 64studio, a variant of debian. The "test audio and midi" patch produces midi notes so I know that midi is working. Note that test audio and midi uses noteout, whereas seq test uses midiout.

I have succesfully had the seq help patch playback notes on OS X. I tried on windows and was unable to get seq help to produce notes when playing back the test midi file; again, test audio and midi was successful.

Any ideas? do i have a problem with the midiout object? The editor with seq shows some note data has been successfully read. Can someone give me some tips on how to work through this problem?

thanks Rua HM.

----- Original Message ---- From: Rua Haszard Morris ruahm@yahoo.com To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, 13 November, 2008 7:34:44 PM Subject: [PD] [seq] object from cyclone - can't get it working on linux

I'm having trouble getting seq to work - I'm using pd-extended 0.40.3 running on linux/debian/64studio.

I have the midi outs of PD connected to amSynth via ALSA midi in JACK (QJackCtl).

noteout in "test audio and midi" works ok, and plays notes on amSynth, but the seq test patch, routed to midiout, doesn't seem to produce any notes.

It is producing something, as I connected things randomly up to a noteout and was able to make some noises..

Can someone give me some pointers on why midiout (or seq?) might be misbehaving? Can someone else running 0.40.3 on linux check that the seq-help patch is working for them?

Thanks Rua HM

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Hans-Christoph Steiner

11:21 p.m.

New subject: seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback

I guess a lot of people don't use [seq]. This video looks useful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHBMEpgzPDA

If you improve the docs, please submit them to the patch tracker so
that we can include it in the SVN repository.

.hc

On Nov 16, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Rua Haszard Morris wrote:

...

I didn't get any responses to my previous message - was it filtered
away due to links in my sig? Anyway, reposting with a bit more
info. This all relates to pd-extended 0.40.3 on various platforms

I am unable to get the seq help patch to work correctly for
playback on linux. I am running 64studio, a variant of debian. The
"test audio and midi" patch produces midi notes so I know that midi
is working. Note that test audio and midi uses noteout, whereas seq
test uses midiout.

I have succesfully had the seq help patch playback notes on OS X. I
tried on windows and was unable to get seq help to produce notes
when playing back the test midi file; again, test audio and midi
was successful.

Any ideas? do i have a problem with the midiout object? The editor
with seq shows some note data has been successfully read. Can
someone give me some tips on how to work through this problem?

thanks Rua HM.

----- Original Message ---- From: Rua Haszard Morris ruahm@yahoo.com To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, 13 November, 2008 7:34:44 PM Subject: [PD] [seq] object from cyclone - can't get it working on
linux

I'm having trouble getting seq to work - I'm using pd-extended
0.40.3 running on linux/debian/64studio.

I have the midi outs of PD connected to amSynth via ALSA midi in
JACK (QJackCtl).

noteout in "test audio and midi" works ok, and plays notes on
amSynth, but the seq test patch, routed to midiout, doesn't seem to
produce any notes.

It is producing something, as I connected things randomly up to a
noteout and was able to make some noises..

Can someone give me some pointers on why midiout (or seq?) might be
misbehaving? Can someone else running 0.40.3 on linux check that
the seq-help patch is working for them?

Thanks Rua HM

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Rua Haszard Morris

17 Nov 17 Nov

12:04 a.m.

New subject: seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback

Thanks for the link, although that just looks to be a video of someone playing with the help patch :)

I am worried that I am trying to do something which is a bad idea - I want to use PD to trigger little MIDI loops, and potentially adjust the midi data on the way out, and/or change looping points at runtime (etc). Is there a better approach to do this in PD, or is [seq] the best way? Or is this something that noone does and I may find is less workable than I was hoping?

I am compelled by the idea of generating the midi loops elsewhere in fully-featured sequencers, but utilising PD for interacting/triggering/looping/processing them in a more flexible manner than sequencers allow... I would be grateful for any suggestions.

I think it may simply be that midiout is not working too well for me, I will further investigate that.

Is it possible that not many people are using [midiout] either?

thanks again Rua HM.

----- Original Message ----

From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org To: Rua Haszard Morris ruahm@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, 17 November, 2008 11:21:12 AM Subject: Re: [PD] seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback

I guess a lot of people don't use [seq]. This video looks useful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHBMEpgzPDA

If you improve the docs, please submit them to the patch tracker so that we can include it in the SVN repository.

.hc

On Nov 16, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Rua Haszard Morris wrote:

...

I didn't get any responses to my previous message - was it filtered away due to links in my sig? Anyway, reposting with a bit more info. This all relates to pd-extended 0.40.3 on various platforms

I am unable to get the seq help patch to work correctly for playback on linux. I am running 64studio, a variant of debian. The "test audio and midi" patch produces midi notes so I know that midi is working. Note that test audio and midi uses noteout, whereas seq test uses midiout.

I have succesfully had the seq help patch playback notes on OS X. I tried on windows and was unable to get seq help to produce notes when playing back the test midi file; again, test audio and midi was successful.

Any ideas? do i have a problem with the midiout object? The editor with seq shows some note data has been successfully read. Can someone give me some tips on how to work through this problem?

thanks Rua HM.

----- Original Message ---- From: Rua Haszard Morris ruahm@yahoo.com To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, 13 November, 2008 7:34:44 PM Subject: [PD] [seq] object from cyclone - can't get it working on linux

I'm having trouble getting seq to work - I'm using pd-extended 0.40.3 running on linux/debian/64studio.

I have the midi outs of PD connected to amSynth via ALSA midi in JACK (QJackCtl).

noteout in "test audio and midi" works ok, and plays notes on amSynth, but the seq test patch, routed to midiout, doesn't seem to produce any notes.

It is producing something, as I connected things randomly up to a noteout and was able to make some noises..

Can someone give me some pointers on why midiout (or seq?) might be misbehaving? Can someone else running 0.40.3 on linux check that the seq-help patch is working for them?

Thanks Rua HM

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Hans-Christoph Steiner

12:51 a.m.

New subject: seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback

You might be interested in xeq, it's like a suped up seq:

http://suita.chopin.edu.pl/~czaja/miXed/externs/xeq.html

Try [noteout] instead of [midiout]. What you say should be possible,
but yeah, there aren't a lot of people using MIDI with Pd these days.

.hc

On Nov 16, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Rua Haszard Morris wrote:

...

Thanks for the link, although that just looks to be a video of
someone playing with the help patch :)

I am worried that I am trying to do something which is a bad idea -
I want to use PD to trigger little MIDI loops, and potentially
adjust the midi data on the way out, and/or change looping points
at runtime (etc). Is there a better approach to do this in PD, or
is [seq] the best way? Or is this something that noone does and I
may find is less workable than I was hoping?

I am compelled by the idea of generating the midi loops elsewhere
in fully-featured sequencers, but utilising PD for interacting/ triggering/looping/processing them in a more flexible manner than
sequencers allow... I would be grateful for any suggestions.

I think it may simply be that midiout is not working too well for
me, I will further investigate that.

Is it possible that not many people are using [midiout] either?

thanks again Rua HM.

----- Original Message ----

From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org To: Rua Haszard Morris ruahm@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, 17 November, 2008 11:21:12 AM Subject: Re: [PD] seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for
midi file playback

I guess a lot of people don't use [seq]. This video looks useful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHBMEpgzPDA

If you improve the docs, please submit them to the patch tracker so
that we can include it in the SVN repository.

.hc

On Nov 16, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Rua Haszard Morris wrote:

...
I didn't get any responses to my previous message - was it
filtered away due to links in my sig? Anyway, reposting with a bit
more info. This all relates to pd-extended 0.40.3 on various
platforms

I am unable to get the seq help patch to work correctly for
playback on linux. I am running 64studio, a variant of debian. The
"test audio and midi" patch produces midi notes so I know that
midi is working. Note that test audio and midi uses noteout,
whereas seq test uses midiout.

I have succesfully had the seq help patch playback notes on OS X.
I tried on windows and was unable to get seq help to produce notes
when playing back the test midi file; again, test audio and midi
was successful.

Any ideas? do i have a problem with the midiout object? The editor
with seq shows some note data has been successfully read. Can
someone give me some tips on how to work through this problem?

thanks Rua HM.

----- Original Message ---- From: Rua Haszard Morris ruahm@yahoo.com To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, 13 November, 2008 7:34:44 PM Subject: [PD] [seq] object from cyclone - can't get it working on
linux

I'm having trouble getting seq to work - I'm using pd-extended
0.40.3 running on linux/debian/64studio.

I have the midi outs of PD connected to amSynth via ALSA midi in
JACK (QJackCtl).

noteout in "test audio and midi" works ok, and plays notes on
amSynth, but the seq test patch, routed to midiout, doesn't seem
to produce any notes.

It is producing something, as I connected things randomly up to a
noteout and was able to make some noises..

Can someone give me some pointers on why midiout (or seq?) might
be misbehaving? Can someone else running 0.40.3 on linux check
that the seq-help patch is working for them?

Thanks Rua HM

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Frank Barknecht

1:31 p.m.

New subject: seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback

Hallo, Rua Haszard Morris hat gesagt: // Rua Haszard Morris wrote:

...

Thanks for the link, although that just looks to be a video of someone playing with the help patch :)

I think, the [seq] object from Cyclone follows the Max seq object, so you could look in the Max documentation from cycling74.com how it works. AFAIK there is no Pd help patch.

...

I am worried that I am trying to do something which is a bad idea - I want to use PD to trigger little MIDI loops, and potentially adjust the midi data on the way out, and/or change looping points at runtime (etc). Is there a better approach to do this in PD, or is [seq] the best way? Or is this something that noone does and I may find is less workable than I was hoping?

I am compelled by the idea of generating the midi loops elsewhere in fully-featured sequencers, but utilising PD for interacting/triggering/looping/processing them in a more flexible manner than sequencers allow... I would be grateful for any suggestions.

One suggestion would be to convert the midi snippets to a textfile that you can use either in [qlist] or with [textfile].

Attached is a simple example how to record and play back from a qlist. qlists aren't very flexible, basically you can only change the tempo and do rewinds, so you maybe want to build your own text file sequencer with [textfile].

...

I think it may simply be that midiout is not working too well for me, I will further investigate that.

Is it possible that not many people are using [midiout] either?

That's possible: I prefer noteout and ctlout. ;)

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Frank Barknecht

1:36 p.m.

New subject: seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback

Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:

...

Rua Haszard Morris hat gesagt: // Rua Haszard Morris wrote:

...
Thanks for the link, although that just looks to be a video of someone playing with the help patch :)

I think, the [seq] object from Cyclone follows the Max seq object, so you could look in the Max documentation from cycling74.com how it works. AFAIK there is no Pd help patch.

Oh, well, obviously in the video someone wrote a help file. ;)

The URL is in the video, so just download it from http://jkant.altervista.org/xfiles/seqdoc.zip

Ciao

Frank Barknecht Do You RjDj.me? _ ______footils.org__

Rua Haszard Morris

9:29 p.m.

New subject: seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback

Thanks for the thoughtful replies - last night I got to grips with mrpeach's midifile and noteout and was able to get things working, it looks as though it will do the kinds of things I am after.

I am now using midifile to read and play the midi file, driving it with a metro, and tweaking its output on the way to noteout. I haven't tried controllers yet, but quite possibly they will work in a similar manner.

So I guess that [midiout] is broken?

For the record, seq-test.pd and seq-help.pd are in the pd-extended distribution, and both don't work for me (both use [midiout].

Thanks all for the suggestions & advice! Rua HM.

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----- Original Message ---- From: Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008 1:36:54 AM Subject: Re: [PD] seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback

Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:

...

Rua Haszard Morris hat gesagt: // Rua Haszard Morris wrote:

...
Thanks for the link, although that just looks to be a video of someone playing with the help patch :)

I think, the [seq] object from Cyclone follows the Max seq object, so you could look in the Max documentation from cycling74.com how it works. AFAIK there is no Pd help patch.

Oh, well, obviously in the video someone wrote a help file. ;)

The URL is in the video, so just download it from http://jkant.altervista.org/xfiles/seqdoc.zip

Ciao

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giucant

20 Nov 20 Nov

12:54 p.m.

New subject: seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback

Hi Hans, i've submitted that seq doc to the patch tracker, time ago... But i've never seen it in the svn rep or pd-ext distribution... Have I done something wrong, maybe??

(btw download here http://jkant.altervista.org/xfiles/seqdoc.zip)

ciao j

--- Dom 16/11/08, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org ha scritto:

...

Da: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org Oggetto: Re: [PD] seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback A: "Rua Haszard Morris" ruahm@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Data: Domenica 16 novembre 2008, 22:21 I guess a lot of people don't use [seq]. This video looks useful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHBMEpgzPDA

If you improve the docs, please submit them to the patch tracker so
that we can include it in the SVN repository.

.hc

On Nov 16, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Rua Haszard Morris wrote:

...
I didn't get any responses to my previous message

was it filtered

...
away due to links in my sig? Anyway, reposting with a

bit more

...
info. This all relates to pd-extended 0.40.3 on

various platforms

...
I am unable to get the seq help patch to work

correctly for

...
playback on linux. I am running 64studio, a variant of

debian. The

...
"test audio and midi" patch produces midi

notes so I know that midi

...
is working. Note that test audio and midi uses

noteout, whereas seq

...
test uses midiout.

I have succesfully had the seq help patch playback

notes on OS X. I

...
tried on windows and was unable to get seq help to

produce notes

...
when playing back the test midi file; again, test

audio and midi

...
was successful.

Any ideas? do i have a problem with the midiout

object? The editor

...
with seq shows some note data has been successfully

read. Can

...
someone give me some tips on how to work through this

problem?

...
thanks Rua HM.

----- Original Message ---- From: Rua Haszard Morris ruahm@yahoo.com To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, 13 November, 2008 7:34:44 PM Subject: [PD] [seq] object from cyclone - can't

get it working on

...
linux

I'm having trouble getting seq to work - I'm

using pd-extended

...
0.40.3 running on linux/debian/64studio.

I have the midi outs of PD connected to amSynth via

ALSA midi in

...
JACK (QJackCtl).

noteout in "test audio and midi" works ok,

and plays notes on

...
amSynth, but the seq test patch, routed to midiout,

doesn't seem to

...
produce any notes.

It is producing something, as I connected things

randomly up to a

...
noteout and was able to make some noises..

Can someone give me some pointers on why midiout (or

seq?) might be

...
misbehaving? Can someone else running 0.40.3 on linux

check that

...
the seq-help patch is working for them?

Thanks Rua HM

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Rua Haszard Morris

9:51 p.m.

New subject: seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback

It is in the pd-extended distribution, as is seq-test, so have no fear, everything's all good.

file:///Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/doc/examples/cyclone/seq-test.pd

file:///Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/doc/5.reference/cyclone/seq-help.pd

To clarify, my problem with seq ended up being [midiout] not working for me, and now I am just using [midifile] from mrpeach in conjunction with [noteout]. It has been a lot of fun working out how to get this happening (this is the first time I have really sat down and played with pd).

cheers Rua HM.

-- http://myspace.com/haszari http://haszaristwocents.blogspot.com http://last.fm/music/Haszari ----- Original Message ---- From: giucant giucant@yahoo.com To: Rua Haszard Morris ruahm@yahoo.com; Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, 21 November, 2008 12:54:08 AM Subject: Re: [PD] seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback Hi Hans, i've submitted that seq doc to the patch tracker, time ago... But i've never seen it in the svn rep or pd-ext distribution... Have I done something wrong, maybe?? (btw download here http://jkant.altervista.org/xfiles/seqdoc.zip) ciao j --- Dom 16/11/08, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org ha scritto: > Da: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org > Oggetto: Re: [PD] seq (cyclone) object help patch not working - for midi file playback > A: "Rua Haszard Morris" ruahm@yahoo.com > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Data: Domenica 16 novembre 2008, 22:21 > I guess a lot of people don't use [seq]. This video > looks useful: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHBMEpgzPDA > > If you improve the docs, please submit them to the patch > tracker so
> that we can include it in the SVN repository. > > .hc > > On Nov 16, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Rua Haszard Morris wrote: > > > I didn't get any responses to my previous message > - was it filtered
> > away due to links in my sig? Anyway, reposting with a > bit more
> > info. This all relates to pd-extended 0.40.3 on > various platforms > > > > I am unable to get the seq help patch to work > correctly for
> > playback on linux. I am running 64studio, a variant of > debian. The
> > "test audio and midi" patch produces midi > notes so I know that midi
> > is working. Note that test audio and midi uses > noteout, whereas seq
> > test uses midiout. > > > > I have succesfully had the seq help patch playback > notes on OS X. I
> > tried on windows and was unable to get seq help to > produce notes
> > when playing back the test midi file; again, test > audio and midi
> > was successful. > > > > Any ideas? do i have a problem with the midiout > object? The editor
> > with seq shows some note data has been successfully > read. Can
> > someone give me some tips on how to work through this > problem? > > > > thanks > > Rua HM. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Rua Haszard Morris ruahm@yahoo.com > > To: pd-list@iem.at > > Sent: Thursday, 13 November, 2008 7:34:44 PM > > Subject: [PD] [seq] object from cyclone - can't > get it working on
> > linux > > > > I'm having trouble getting seq to work - I'm > using pd-extended
> > 0.40.3 running on linux/debian/64studio. > > > > I have the midi outs of PD connected to amSynth via > ALSA midi in
> > JACK (QJackCtl). > > > > noteout in "test audio and midi" works ok, > and plays notes on
> > amSynth, but the seq test patch, routed to midiout, > doesn't seem to
> > produce any notes. > > > > It is producing something, as I connected things > randomly up to a
> > noteout and was able to make some noises.. > > > > Can someone give me some pointers on why midiout (or > seq?) might be
> > misbehaving? Can someone else running 0.40.3 on linux > check that
> > the seq-help patch is working for them? > > > > Thanks > > Rua HM > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/ > > listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > Get the latest headlines with Yahoo!Xtra News - > http:// > > nz.news.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/ > > listinfo/pd-list > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ---- > > kill your television > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Unisciti alla community di Io fotografo e video, il nuovo corso di fotografia di Gazzetta dello sport: http://www.flickr.com/groups/iofotografoevideo Stay informed with Yahoo!Xtra News - http://nz.news.yahoo.com

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