Hello Listers~
I'm teaching a 1 month Summer school session for K-8 grade students and would like to include Pd for a mathematics learning tool. I am wondering if anyone else has done something similar, or has any links to DSP/math related materials that would be suitable for this age group. Also, if anyone is sharing their lesson plans for Pd beginners, I would love to see something that I might be able to adapt for my students.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as kids often hate Summer school and I want to make this a fun activity for them.
~Kyle
why don't you take a look at Squeak?
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Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as kids often hate Summer school and I want to make this a fun activity for them.
Make sure you use coloured GUIs! :-)
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Seems like a great opportunity for lots of fun Kyle.
I suppose you might start with simple linear data flows in the message domain. Examples like
Convert Fahrenheit to Celsius Convert Dollars to Euros
Then plot them into graphs
Up to then you can avoid triggers/ eval orders - once you have covered triggers you can do
Find the average of N numbers Vector magnitude sqrt(x*x + y*y*)
If you hide the innards of GEM and just call it a 'graphics output routine' you could do equations of circle etc.
The beetle race and roulette wheel (on my site) were popular and generated lots of discussion.
One example I thought would be easy actually turned out quite hard in Pd - a desktop calculator (definitely an advanced topic)
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:30:09 -0500 "Kyle Klipowicz" kyleklip@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Listers~
I'm teaching a 1 month Summer school session for K-8 grade students and would like to include Pd for a mathematics learning tool. I am wondering if anyone else has done something similar, or has any links to DSP/math related materials that would be suitable for this age group. Also, if anyone is sharing their lesson plans for Pd beginners, I would love to see something that I might be able to adapt for my students.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as kids often hate Summer school and I want to make this a fun activity for them.
~Kyle
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Hi Kyle,
This is great! I have always thought PD was a great was to teach children the bridge between math and art....
I actually once gave my children (2 girls, 6 and 8 at the time) a brief PD tutorial and found them to be very creative and intuitive with the limited objects that I exposed them to.
I just showed them how to create objects, messages, bangs and number boxes and then how to patch them together - all through the menu, no key shortcuts. Then I gave them a few of the simplest object names (osc~, metro, random, dac~) and taught them a little randomization synth and how to create sounds with a number box + osc~.... all very simple stuff. Then I introduced the math objects (+, -, *, /) - nothing too fancy. And that was it for lesson One!
They played with this for a couple hours and built a really interesting patch that made some fun sound... they loved it and I found that with just a few simple tools children can really begin to experiment in different ways than we can - maybe they do not have the same institutional exposure of 'the right way' and 'the wrong way'? I have found that any method children can utilize to learn through personal exploration and ENJOY learning is the 'right' way to learn...
After a bit you can see when they start to become a little bored and that is when you can begin to introduce new concepts and objects to keep their attention...
Worked for me!
This is just my personal case-study. It would be interesting if you documented your experiences in a research study maybe? PD and primary school education? It would be a good study for 'Studies in Art Education' or a similar education based journal....
cheers mark
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From: Kyle Klipowicz kyleklip@gmail.com Subject: [PD] Teaching Pd to Children To: "PDlist" pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 2:30 PM Hello Listers~
I'm teaching a 1 month Summer school session for K-8 grade students and would like to include Pd for a mathematics learning tool. I am wondering if anyone else has done something similar, or has any links to DSP/math related materials that would be suitable for this age group. Also, if anyone is sharing their lesson plans for Pd beginners, I would love to see something that I might be able to adapt for my students.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as kids often hate Summer school and I want to make this a fun activity for them.
~Kyle
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if you want to use pd, then why not teach sound and video? I think you can keep kids busy just by very simple soundin/out patches with adjustable parameters. kids love to play with their voice and some cheap fx (reverb...) although they are always shy in the beginning, esp. girls. record and reverse playback 3-4 seconds later is also quite fun (trying to talk backwards). pitch shifters and formant shifters (is there something native in pd?) are also fun. maybe they want to create radio plays, make sure to bring all your sound effect libraries... (any sequencer program is better suited than pd in this case). drum sequencers are another fun toy. if you want to include visual stuff too, then if you have videocameras, show them some video patches. there are nice stop motion patches in the gem help, kids can create some handdrawn animations with that, or use toys to replay their favorite tv series. or maybe you can even build a small reactable. if you show them some art pieces, maybe they get inspired and want to produce similar stuff? ok, but you said you wanted to teach math. no idea for that.. marius.
Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
Hello Listers~
I'm teaching a 1 month Summer school session for K-8 grade students and would like to include Pd for a mathematics learning tool. I am wondering if anyone else has done something similar, or has any links to DSP/math related materials that would be suitable for this age group. Also, if anyone is sharing their lesson plans for Pd beginners, I would love to see something that I might be able to adapt for my students.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as kids often hate Summer school and I want to make this a fun activity for them.
~Kyle
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Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
Hello Listers~
I'm teaching a 1 month Summer school session for K-8 grade students and would like to include Pd for a mathematics learning tool. I am wondering if anyone else has done something similar, or has any links to DSP/math related materials that would be suitable for this age group. Also, if anyone is sharing their lesson plans for Pd beginners, I would love to see something that I might be able to adapt for my students.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as kids often hate Summer school and I want to make this a fun activity for them.
Make sure to tackle number ranges (mapping), like: Moving one slider up will make another one go down, but only half as far, etc...
~Kyle
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Thanks so much for your comments everybody! I am still mulling over it, but I like the idea of using something like Squeak as well. I remember using a DSP software last year that was very children-oriented, but cannot for the life of me remember the name of the software or where to get it!
As for Pd, I will be scouring for more resources. I'm thinking that "fun" is more important than math. After all, this IS summer school.
As for what K-8 summer school is: K-8 is an age range from 5 years old (K, Kindergarden) to 13 years old (8, 8th grade). Summer school is an extra time for kids to catch up on learning when everyone else is on break in the US.
Also, thanks Andy for providing such a wonderful resource! It's grown quite a bit since I first laid eyes on it.
~Kyle
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Peter Plessas plessas@mur.at wrote:
Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
Hello Listers~
I'm teaching a 1 month Summer school session for K-8 grade students and would like to include Pd for a mathematics learning tool. I am wondering if anyone else has done something similar, or has any links to DSP/math related materials that would be suitable for this age group. Also, if anyone is sharing their lesson plans for Pd beginners, I would love to see something that I might be able to adapt for my students.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as kids often hate Summer school and I want to make this a fun activity for them.
Make sure to tackle number ranges (mapping), like: Moving one slider up will make another one go down, but only half as far, etc...
~Kyle
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Kyle Klipowicz schreef:
I remember using a DSP software last year that was very children-oriented, but cannot for the life of me remember the name of the software or where to get it!
dsp? http://www.notam02.no/DSP02/en/
m
Was it NOTAM?
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 01:43:53 +0200 mik mprims@skynet.be wrote:
Kyle Klipowicz schreef:
I remember using a DSP software last year that was very children-oriented, but cannot for the life of me remember the name of the software or where to get it!
dsp? http://www.notam02.no/DSP02/en/
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YES!!! This was it! Thanks a ton. I think that this software might be a good fit.
~Kyle
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Andy Farnell padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote:
Was it NOTAM?
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 01:43:53 +0200 mik mprims@skynet.be wrote:
Kyle Klipowicz schreef:
I remember using a DSP software last year that was very children-oriented, but cannot for the life of me remember the name of the software or where to get it!
dsp? http://www.notam02.no/DSP02/en/
m
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This sounds like a very cool project, please do keep us posted on
it. I'd love to hear more about it.
.hc
On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:29 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
Thanks so much for your comments everybody! I am still mulling over
it, but I like the idea of using something like Squeak as well. I
remember using a DSP software last year that was very children- oriented, but cannot for the life of me remember the name of the
software or where to get it!As for Pd, I will be scouring for more resources. I'm thinking that
"fun" is more important than math. After all, this IS summer school.As for what K-8 summer school is: K-8 is an age range from 5 years
old (K, Kindergarden) to 13 years old (8, 8th grade). Summer school
is an extra time for kids to catch up on learning when everyone
else is on break in the US.Also, thanks Andy for providing such a wonderful resource! It's
grown quite a bit since I first laid eyes on it.~Kyle
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Peter Plessas plessas@mur.at wrote: Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Hello Listers~
I'm teaching a 1 month Summer school session for K-8 grade students
and would like to include Pd for a mathematics learning tool. I am
wondering if anyone else has done something similar, or has any links to DSP/ math related materials that would be suitable for this age group. Also, if
anyone is sharing their lesson plans for Pd beginners, I would love to see
something that I might be able to adapt for my students.Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as kids often hate Summer
school and I want to make this a fun activity for them.Make sure to tackle number ranges (mapping), like: Moving one
slider up will make another one go down, but only half as far, etc...~Kyle
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