random question,
just a thought, but do any of you think it would be possible to build a sysex editor for something like a fs1r with pd ?
i have some software that i can edit it with, but i cant edit it and play sequences with it at the same time.. its like the editor has complete control over the midi port and wont let it up to any other midi sequencer/program, i've tried using a midi yoke, but that doesn't work either... sorry for the kind of indirect pd question, i just wondered if i went about investing some time into building something with pd i could still use external software to record and playback sequences..
all the best
mr tim x
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Subject: Re: [PD] How to cite PD in an academic paper? From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:08:33 -0500 To: Andy Farnell padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk
To: Andy Farnell padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk CC: pd-list@iem.at
I generally use what I think the reader would be most interested in.
If there is something in the icmc96.ps paper that is related, I would include that, otherwise, I use a misc entry with the http://puredata.info URL..hc
On Jan 24, 2008, at 7:26 PM, Andy Farnell wrote:
Use the @MISC bibtex entry author: Puckette et al date: 1996
or you may prefer to cite this as a pointer
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Publications/icmc96.ps
See for constructing MISC bibtex fields
http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~jacobsd/bib/formats/bibtex.html
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:43:43 -0800 "B. Bogart" ben@ekran.org wrote:
Hey all,
Is there a specific way to cite Pure-Data in an academic paper? R outputs a bibtex entry when you call cite(). Is there some standard for PD?
OT: How is software generally cited?
Thanks, .b.
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Subject: Re: [PD] visca camera control in pd? From: "B. Bogart" ben@ekran.org Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:07:20 -0800 To: chris clepper cgclepper@gmail.com
To: chris clepper cgclepper@gmail.com CC: pd-list@iem.at, Martin Peach martin.peach@sympatico.ca
The elmo just says "Ack, ERR or Complete" but since multiple cameras can be diasychained then it gets more complex, which camera threw which error.
Another thing to look into is the pan/tilt heads, I was looking at these as they are much more flexible, you can put any camera on em, but I did not look very far. (zoom is obviously trouble)
have fun!
.b.
chris clepper wrote:
On Jan 25, 2008 12:00 PM, Martin Peach <martin.peach@sympatico.ca mailto:martin.peach@sympatico.ca> wrote:
<http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/docs/manuals/evihd1_tm.pdf>I've worked with a VISCA cam a few years ago. It just uses 9600 baud RS232 serial, so [comport] can handle it. The harder part is parsing incoming messages.
Good to know it is possible. What incoming messages need to be handled? I was thinking that Pd would just send messages to move the cam around and not really need to know if the they are successful or not.
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Subject: Re: [PD] Mac OS X Intel autobuilds From: brandon zeeb bsoisoi@mac.com Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:05:36 -0500 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org CC: pd-list list pd-list@iem.at
Awesome, thanks for the info. I'll take a look at it this weekend.
Should I forward any subsequent issues on this topic (ie: Pd on 10.5 and universal binaries) to the pd-dev list, or this one?I'll let you all know when I have the builds going.
Cheers, ~Brandon
On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Cool. It's not too hard to setup, here's how. First use rsync to get the code:
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
Then install all the dependencies:
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/darwin
Then add the script to a cron job so it runs automatically:
pure-data/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh
Universal builds for Pd-extended won't work, but it wouldn't be too hard to get working, and very much a worthwhile project.
.hc
On Jan 25, 2008, at 2:11 PM, bsoisoi wrote:
I have a 1.5ghz powerbook G4 with 2gb of RAM that is acting as a server for me right now. It is running 10.5.1, and I'm pretty sure powerpc macs can build Universal Binary / Intel binaries.
If someone can figure that out (or help me figure it out) I can donate dedicated CPU time on this machine for nightly Pd-extended PPC/Intel autobuilds.
Let me know, ~Brandon
On Jan 23, 2008, at 1:31 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I don't think anyone has done a 10.5 build or a universal build yet. If someone wants to tackle that, then we can just have universal builds every night on whatever machine AFAIK.
.hc
On Jan 20, 2008, at 11:28 PM, vade wrote:
What machine is it hans/marius? Perhaps we can set aside an intel box for um, us researchers and we can leave it on :) Since I am probably around more than Hans is I can check on it periodically.
I believe PPC systems can compile intel builds, with 10.5, no (im not positive but I think you can target them??)? If so, we may have a spare machine for this at Poly we can put in the research area that no one will mess with...
On Jan 20, 2008, at 10:20 PM, marius schebella wrote:
jan 17 has one. the reason why the machine is down isvery trivial. the autobuild process was set up on a school machine which is in daily use by students and good students turn off the machine during night. Afaik the machines got totally reset for the beginning of the new semester (starting with jan22). don't know if it will be up again. hans? marius.
bsoisoi wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Is there a reason there hasn't been an autobuild for Mac OS X x86 > since around 2007-12-07? Do we know when we can expect the Intel > builds to resume? > > Thanks, > ~Brandon > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list >
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Subject: [PD] paranoid pd From: naysayer gateswideopen@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:42:58 +1100 To: "Pd-List (E-mail)" pd-list@iem.at
To: "Pd-List (E-mail)" pd-list@iem.at
could someone tell me how i can turn off this paranoid setting in pd that asks me every time if i'm sure i want to close the patch window. it seems a little crazy that this happens regardless of whether i have saved the patch or not.
i hope i'm not being intolerant.
thanks.
Subject: Re: [PD] paranoid pd From: Derek Holzer derek@umatic.nl Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:00:44 +0100 To: naysayer gateswideopen@gmail.com
To: naysayer gateswideopen@gmail.com CC: "Pd-List (E-mail)" pd-list@iem.at
CTL + W is very close to CTL + E, so I for one am glad it's there.
d.
naysayer wrote:
could someone tell me how i can turn off this paranoid setting in pd that asks me every time if i'm sure i want to close the patch window. it seems a little crazy that this happens regardless of whether i have saved the patch or not.
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random question,
just a thought, but do any of you think it would be possible to build a sysex editor for something like a fs1r with pd ?
i have some software that i can edit it with, but i cant edit it and play sequences with it at the same time.. its like the editor has complete control over the midi port and wont let it up to any other midi sequencer/program, i've tried using a midi yoke, but that doesn't work either... sorry for the kind of indirect pd question, i just wondered if i went about investing some time into building something with pd i could still use external software to record and playback sequences..
Dear Tim,
random answer,
it is definitely possible to build a sysex editor in pd. The more tricky part, especially for a newcomer is the handling (storage/retrieval) of the many different data values in pd. Not that it is not possible, but better have your homework made before that :-) If you want to start working with pd, that would make a good project to do so. But if you want to have a quick and working solution, i would try other things, as for example a multiport midi interface, or midi mergers or other software loopback solutions.
regards, PP
all the best
mr tim x
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- Re: How to cite PD in an academic paper? (Hans-Christoph Steiner)
- Re: visca camera control in pd? (B. Bogart)
- Re: Mac OS X Intel autobuilds (brandon zeeb)
- paranoid pd (naysayer)
- Re: paranoid pd (Derek Holzer)
Subject: Re: [PD] How to cite PD in an academic paper? From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:08:33 -0500 To: Andy Farnell padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk
To: Andy Farnell padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk CC: pd-list@iem.at
I generally use what I think the reader would be most interested in.
If there is something in the icmc96.ps paper that is related, I would include that, otherwise, I use a misc entry with the http://puredata.info URL..hc
On Jan 24, 2008, at 7:26 PM, Andy Farnell wrote:
Use the @MISC bibtex entry author: Puckette et al date: 1996
or you may prefer to cite this as a pointer
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Publications/icmc96.ps
See for constructing MISC bibtex fields
http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~jacobsd/bib/formats/bibtex.html
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:43:43 -0800 "B. Bogart" ben@ekran.org wrote:
Hey all,
Is there a specific way to cite Pure-Data in an academic paper? R outputs a bibtex entry when you call cite(). Is there some standard for PD?
OT: How is software generally cited?
Thanks, .b.
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Subject: Re: [PD] visca camera control in pd? From: "B. Bogart" ben@ekran.org Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:07:20 -0800 To: chris clepper cgclepper@gmail.com
To: chris clepper cgclepper@gmail.com CC: pd-list@iem.at, Martin Peach martin.peach@sympatico.ca
The elmo just says "Ack, ERR or Complete" but since multiple cameras can be diasychained then it gets more complex, which camera threw which error.
Another thing to look into is the pan/tilt heads, I was looking at these as they are much more flexible, you can put any camera on em, but I did not look very far. (zoom is obviously trouble)
have fun!
.b.
chris clepper wrote:
On Jan 25, 2008 12:00 PM, Martin Peach <martin.peach@sympatico.ca mailto:martin.peach@sympatico.ca> wrote:
http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/docs/manuals/evihd1_tm.pdfI've worked with a VISCA cam a few years ago. It just uses 9600 baud RS232 serial, so [comport] can handle it. The harder part is parsing incoming messages.
Good to know it is possible. What incoming messages need to be handled? I was thinking that Pd would just send messages to move the cam around and not really need to know if the they are successful or not.
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Subject: Re: [PD] Mac OS X Intel autobuilds From: brandon zeeb bsoisoi@mac.com Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:05:36 -0500 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org CC: pd-list list pd-list@iem.at
Awesome, thanks for the info. I'll take a look at it this weekend.
Should I forward any subsequent issues on this topic (ie: Pd on 10.5 and universal binaries) to the pd-dev list, or this one?I'll let you all know when I have the builds going.
Cheers, ~Brandon
On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Cool. It's not too hard to setup, here's how. First use rsync to get the code:
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
Then install all the dependencies:
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/darwin
Then add the script to a cron job so it runs automatically:
pure-data/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh
Universal builds for Pd-extended won't work, but it wouldn't be too hard to get working, and very much a worthwhile project.
.hc
On Jan 25, 2008, at 2:11 PM, bsoisoi wrote:
I have a 1.5ghz powerbook G4 with 2gb of RAM that is acting as a server for me right now. It is running 10.5.1, and I'm pretty sure powerpc macs can build Universal Binary / Intel binaries.
If someone can figure that out (or help me figure it out) I can donate dedicated CPU time on this machine for nightly Pd-extended PPC/Intel autobuilds.
Let me know, ~Brandon
On Jan 23, 2008, at 1:31 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I don't think anyone has done a 10.5 build or a universal build yet. If someone wants to tackle that, then we can just have universal builds every night on whatever machine AFAIK.
.hc
On Jan 20, 2008, at 11:28 PM, vade wrote:
What machine is it hans/marius? Perhaps we can set aside an intel box for um, us researchers and we can leave it on :) Since I am probably around more than Hans is I can check on it periodically.
I believe PPC systems can compile intel builds, with 10.5, no (im not positive but I think you can target them??)? If so, we may have a spare machine for this at Poly we can put in the research area that no one will mess with...
On Jan 20, 2008, at 10:20 PM, marius schebella wrote:
>jan 17 has one. >the reason why the machine is down isvery trivial. the autobuild >process >was set up on a school machine which is in daily use by students and >good students turn off the machine during night. Afaik the machines >got >totally reset for the beginning of the new semester (starting with >jan22). don't know if it will be up again. hans? >marius. > >bsoisoi wrote: >>Hello everyone, >> >>Is there a reason there hasn't been an autobuild for Mac OS X x86 >>since around 2007-12-07? Do we know when we can expect the Intel >>builds to resume? >> >>Thanks, >>~Brandon >> >>_______________________________________________ >>PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>listinfo/pd-list >> > > >_______________________________________________ >PD-list@iem.at mailing list >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >listinfo/pd-list
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Subject: [PD] paranoid pd From: naysayer gateswideopen@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:42:58 +1100 To: "Pd-List (E-mail)" pd-list@iem.at
To: "Pd-List (E-mail)" pd-list@iem.at
could someone tell me how i can turn off this paranoid setting in pd that asks me every time if i'm sure i want to close the patch window. it seems a little crazy that this happens regardless of whether i have saved the patch or not.
i hope i'm not being intolerant.
thanks.
Subject: Re: [PD] paranoid pd From: Derek Holzer derek@umatic.nl Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:00:44 +0100 To: naysayer gateswideopen@gmail.com
To: naysayer gateswideopen@gmail.com CC: "Pd-List (E-mail)" pd-list@iem.at
CTL + W is very close to CTL + E, so I for one am glad it's there.
d.
naysayer wrote:
could someone tell me how i can turn off this paranoid setting in pd that asks me every time if i'm sure i want to close the patch window. it seems a little crazy that this happens regardless of whether i have saved the patch or not.
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