Reading the whole discussion about "smooth" sounds made me think of this exercise:
http://www.batuhanbozkurt.com/instruction/recreating-the-thx-deep-note
Any Pd peeps interested in trying to reproduce the THX sound? I'd really be interested in comparing the result to the original, as well as the pd patch to the supercollider code.
-Jonathan
Yep I did that as an exercise way back. Lost the code and wavs now sorry to say :(
But, yes it did show up the weakness of Pd oscils when compared to Csound - somewhat muddier, with a slight distortion when using so many.
IIRC its a saw/string like wave and I made it bandlimited by filling tables and felt very confident it couldn't be aliasing because I calculated no sweeps put any harmonics even close to Nyquist. So, he difference tis kinda to do with the small table size or interpolation in Pd I think. Of course in Csound it sounds gorgeous.
a.
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com wrote:
Reading the whole discussion about "smooth" sounds made me think of this exercise:
http://www.batuhanbozkurt.com/instruction/recreating-the-thx-deep-note
Any Pd peeps interested in trying to reproduce the THX sound? I'd really be interested in comparing the result to the original, as well as the pd patch to the supercollider code.
-Jonathan
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From: Andy Farnell padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk Subject: Re: [PD] Reproducing the THX deep note in Pd To: "Jonathan Wilkes" jancsika@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 12:37 AM
Yep I did that as an exercise way back. Lost the code and wavs now sorry to say :(
But, yes it did show up the weakness of Pd oscils when compared to Csound - somewhat muddier, with a slight distortion when using so many.
IIRC its a saw/string like wave and I made it bandlimited by filling tables and felt very confident it couldn't be aliasing because I calculated no sweeps put any harmonics even close to Nyquist. So, he difference tis kinda to do with the small table size or interpolation in Pd I think. Of course in Csound it sounds gorgeous.
a.
Hi Andy, Cool! If you happen to stumble across I'd love to take a look.
I was actually comparing to supercollider, not csound. But I'm not surprised csound did an excellent job synthesizing a sound like that.
-Jonathan
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com wrote:
Reading the whole discussion about "smooth" sounds
made me think of this
exercise:
http://www.batuhanbozkurt.com/instruction/recreating-the-thx-deep-note
Any Pd peeps interested in trying to reproduce the THX
sound? I'd really
be interested in comparing the result to the original,
as well as the pd
patch to the supercollider code.
-Jonathan
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Pd's oscillator wave tables are 512 samples. Supercollider uses 8192 - not sure what CSound uses. The efficiency of the SC code allows for large sample tables and bigger FFTs, which certainly help make a 'smoother' sound.
It would be interesting to hear what happens with 16x larger tables in Pd.
PS - Amazing that Andy Moorer replied to the blog about the SC version!
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Andy Farnell padawan12@obiwannabe.co.ukwrote:
Yep I did that as an exercise way back. Lost the code and wavs now sorry to say :(
But, yes it did show up the weakness of Pd oscils when compared to Csound - somewhat muddier, with a slight distortion when using so many.
IIRC its a saw/string like wave and I made it bandlimited by filling tables and felt very confident it couldn't be aliasing because I calculated no sweeps put any harmonics even close to Nyquist. So, he difference tis kinda to do with the small table size or interpolation in Pd I think. Of course in Csound it sounds gorgeous.
a.
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com wrote:
Reading the whole discussion about "smooth" sounds made me think of this exercise:
http://www.batuhanbozkurt.com/instruction/recreating-the-thx-deep-note
Any Pd peeps interested in trying to reproduce the THX sound? I'd really be interested in comparing the result to the original, as well as the pd patch to the supercollider code.
-Jonathan
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BTW, another great test of oscillators, I've mentioned before on this list, is Rissets 'arpeggio' (diffraction) instrument.
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com wrote:
Reading the whole discussion about "smooth" sounds made me think of this exercise:
http://www.batuhanbozkurt.com/instruction/recreating-the-thx-deep-note
Any Pd peeps interested in trying to reproduce the THX sound? I'd really be interested in comparing the result to the original, as well as the pd patch to the supercollider code.
-Jonathan
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