oh, and i forgot to say you're trying to induce a concurential model into the pd community and that's very very american, you can't help yourself for living in such a system ...
but, we don't take it anymore...
hahahaha,
sevy
Yves Degoyon wrote:
ola,
i'm gonna answer more deeply to that shit ( ok, i'm drunk )
i was only asking a bit of respect for miller, when i saw the first "patcher·" version for mac OS with 5 objects, that was already inspiring ))
about being a punk, it's a compliment to me and to you, that's negative... don't forget that fucking the sound system is partly fucking the system but it's not enough )))
if i ask you whose that song is from : "i am a sample, i am a product", do you know anything?
then, don't forget forget you work for museum and such and just don't help when people are suffering out there...
don't ask me, know who you are..
ciao, sevy
Guenter Geiger wrote:
I actually wanted to stay out of this discussion, but I have to support the opinions of hc. and yves.
The patches system works very well, and I think it is a model how collaboration can work out, if we follow the rules.
Guenter
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Yves Degoyon wrote:
yes, i second that. furthermore, i regret the arrogant attitude of people who think they invented a brand new program because they changed the interface..
It's not all about the gooey. When is SIMD going into the real pd? When is your threaded soundfiler going into the real pd?
don't judge a book by the cover...
A GUI is not a cover. a splash-screen might be a cover...
Why the book metaphor ? The experience of using the software is much different from the one of using a book. Reading the source code is more like reading a book, but most people don't do that, and if it were only about the source code and not running it there would be little point in PureData.
i'm just interested in having a click-free pd, and i posted some patches for having a threaded soundfiler that 2 years ago, i still using these patches.
Tsk, tsk. True punks just enjoy the clicks.
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On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Yves Degoyon wrote:
oh, and i forgot to say you're trying to induce a concurential model into the pd community
First please tell me what's wrong with a concurrential model.
and that's very very american,
USAians are just as _anti_-competitive as anyone else.
USA is not a capitalist state, whatever they say. If they were, they'd spend more time ensuring that large companies can't bully small companies out of the market.
but, we don't take it anymore...
who?
Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Yves Degoyon wrote:
oh, and i forgot to say you're trying to induce a concurential model into the pd community
First please tell me what's wrong with a concurrential model.
no comment on your stupidity... consider now a lot of people don't like you on this list.
and that's very very american,
USAians are just as _anti_-competitive as anyone else.
USA is not a capitalist state, whatever they say. If they were, they'd spend more time ensuring that large companies can't bully small companies out of the market.
yes, i think there should have been an open call for the mass destruction weapons needed in Irak and arab countries, i would personally have built a pd-operated guided missile to go up your ass.. i love being shocking, all you and french would say : "ohhh" with their little fingers up. i've got the bigger for you...
but, we don't take it anymore...
who?
all that believe in a kind of community, like gisle form piksel in the first place, so, be very humble in piksel, and please, don't wave me any hello.
ciao, sevy
Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada
hi matju, hi yves ...
i think, you all should stop this thread as soon as possible. this list is no place for you to taunt each other!!! if you want to criticize each other, please criticize constructively!
if this flamewar will go on, i'll unsubscribe from this list until you sorted this out!
tim
ps: please read this: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/pd/LICENSE.txt?view=markup
you were partly starting that competition war here, so don't get shocked with your little finger up now.
of course, i was sad that miller never accepted any threaded ( soundfiler or whatever ) solution in pd, but he explained that he feared threads as hell, on which i think he's not right.
but, evrybody's wrong and right sometimes, no?
ciao, sevy
Tim Blechmann wrote:
hi matju, hi yves ...
i think, you all should stop this thread as soon as possible. this list is no place for you to taunt each other!!! if you want to criticize each other, please criticize constructively!
if this flamewar will go on, i'll unsubscribe from this list until you sorted this out!
tim
ps: please read this: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/pd/LICENSE.txt?view=markup
you were partly starting that competition war here, so don't get shocked with your little finger up now.
i was not taunting anyone! when criticising people on the list, i tried to be constructive.
Tim Blechmann wrote:
you were partly starting that competition war here, so don't get shocked with your little finger up now.
i was not taunting anyone! when criticising people on the list, i tried to be constructive.
ok, man, stop the psychodrama ...
but i think that to work with some people, we should at least know where we want to go to and share some values.
if you're only shocked when i say "fuck off", that's kinda superficial.
saludos, sevy
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Tim Blechmann wrote:
i think, you all should stop this thread as soon as possible.
I won't reply to Yves.
Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada
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