Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working ""out-of-the-box""). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion? Thanks,
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working ""out-of-the-box""). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion?
Hi Marco, i have two soundcards.
- edirol fa 101 firewire, and works out of the box since old freebob
driver and now with the ffado driver. (~ 250/300eu second hand).
- rme multiface I pci (or pcmcia). works out of the box (300/400eu)
both cards are "gnu/linux" ready, both are goods, but rme is better (lower latency, more stability, direct hardware routing, adat in/out)
ciao
I've also got the FA-101 and it works out of the box with the FFADO drivers even with my laptop's crappy Ricoh firewire chipset. Of course make sure you've got the RT kernel with rtirq prioritizing firewire.
-martin
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 14:48 +0200, becks wrote:
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working ""out-of-the-box""). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion?
Hi Marco, i have two soundcards.
- edirol fa 101 firewire, and works out of the box since old freebob
driver and now with the ffado driver. (~ 250/300eu second hand).
- rme multiface I pci (or pcmcia). works out of the box (300/400eu)
both cards are "gnu/linux" ready, both are goods, but rme is better (lower latency, more stability, direct hardware routing, adat in/out)
ciao
6 Months ago I got a second -hand M-Audio 1010 in PCI/rack format, it's jsut perfect with Debian Lenny. No phantom though, only sym jack 6.35
++ OH
Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working ""out-of-the-box""). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion? Thanks,
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the delta 1010Lt (PCI) is even cheaper, but unbalanced outputs... and only 2 preamps. also out of the box,
J
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Oli44 olivier@heinry.fr wrote:
6 Months ago I got a second -hand M-Audio 1010 in PCI/rack format, it's jsut perfect with Debian Lenny. No phantom though, only sym jack 6.35
++ OH
Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working ""out-of-the-box""). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion? Thanks,
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sounds good though! j
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliver2@gmail.comwrote:
the delta 1010Lt (PCI) is even cheaper, but unbalanced outputs... and only 2 preamps. also out of the box,
J
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Oli44 olivier@heinry.fr wrote:
6 Months ago I got a second -hand M-Audio 1010 in PCI/rack format, it's jsut perfect with Debian Lenny. No phantom though, only sym jack 6.35
++ OH
Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working ""out-of-the-box""). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion? Thanks,
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moin Marco,
in my desktop i've got an m-audio delta 1010 lt (used from e-bay), which worked "out of the box" (8 unbalanced analalog i/o and midi from a "cat o' 9 tails" which plugs directly into the card). its big brother (delta 1010, no "lt" suffix) has a nice breakout box (balanced) and uses the same chipset ("envy24", alsa module snd-ice1712). iirc, the terratec phase88 uses the same chipset with an unbalanced breakout box.
latency was ok out of the box (don't remember the numbers right now, sorry), but i had to do some os-level tweaking to get things working to my satisfaction (realtime kernel, irq priorities, pci settings, etc - all scripted now and available on request). also, i had to comment out a few lines in the envy24control sources (dedicated mixer gui for the card) in order to stop my console from filling up with annoying warnings -- really nothing more than an annoyance; i can send you a patch if you have the same problem... if you can afford one, the rme cards are likely to be much better, but my budget didn't stretch quite that far ;-)
marmosets, Bryan
On 2010-04-12 14:11:41, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com appears to have written:
Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working ""out-of-the-box""). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion?
Hey, on ubuntu, I have good experience with: -echo layla 3g (8in8out,2preamps, phantom...) -m-audio delta 1010LT -m-audio delta 44 -rme hammerfall dsp + multiface, both PCI and PCMCIA (note: the output jack sockets are too close to each other, which can give you a hard time connecting more than 2 cables with 'sturdy' jacks.) all those worked pretty much out of the box
bad experience with: -firewire soundcard using 'freebob' driver (I think the brand was motu, or presonus, or focusrite, one of those, I don't remember exactly...but, while it was officially supposed to work (checked alsa soundcard matrix) it didn't...) I haven't checked recently, but I still have the impression that firewire soundcards are poorly supported on linux... -m-audio delta 66 no sound, don't know the reason, is anyone using this card ?
gr, Tim
2010/4/12 Bryan Jurish jurish@uni-potsdam.de
moin Marco,
in my desktop i've got an m-audio delta 1010 lt (used from e-bay), which worked "out of the box" (8 unbalanced analalog i/o and midi from a "cat o' 9 tails" which plugs directly into the card). its big brother (delta 1010, no "lt" suffix) has a nice breakout box (balanced) and uses the same chipset ("envy24", alsa module snd-ice1712). iirc, the terratec phase88 uses the same chipset with an unbalanced breakout box.
latency was ok out of the box (don't remember the numbers right now, sorry), but i had to do some os-level tweaking to get things working to my satisfaction (realtime kernel, irq priorities, pci settings, etc - all scripted now and available on request). also, i had to comment out a few lines in the envy24control sources (dedicated mixer gui for the card) in order to stop my console from filling up with annoying warnings -- really nothing more than an annoyance; i can send you a patch if you have the same problem... if you can afford one, the rme cards are likely to be much better, but my budget didn't stretch quite that far ;-)
marmosets, Bryan
On 2010-04-12 14:11:41, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com appears to have written:
Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working ""out-of-the-box""). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion?
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On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:51 PM, ydegoyon@gmail.com ydegoyon@gmail.comwrote:
s'lam
I haven't checked recently, but I still have the impression that firewire
soundcards are poorly supported on linux...
the edirols FA-66 and FA-101 are working fine ..
saludos, sevy
I confirm, fa-101 worked perfectly for our last project! bye husk
Cool, thanks everybody for the comprehensive and useful information! cheers,
Marco
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Husk 00 husk00@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:51 PM, ydegoyon@gmail.com ydegoyon@gmail.comwrote:
s'lam
I haven't checked recently, but I still have the impression that firewire
soundcards are poorly supported on linux...
the edirols FA-66 and FA-101 are working fine ..
saludos, sevy
I confirm, fa-101 worked perfectly for our last project! bye husk
Good expérience with the Presonus Firepod FP10 (8 e/s, 8 preamps)... Around 250 €...
01livier
2010/4/12 Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com
Cool, thanks everybody for the comprehensive and useful information! cheers,
Marco
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Husk 00 husk00@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:51 PM, ydegoyon@gmail.com ydegoyon@gmail.comwrote:
s'lam
I haven't checked recently, but I still have the impression that
firewire soundcards are poorly supported on linux...
the edirols FA-66 and FA-101 are working fine ..
saludos, sevy
I confirm, fa-101 worked perfectly for our last project! bye husk
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Just a note for a soundcard to avoid - judging from the really positive reviews on the Edirols (FA-66 and FA-101) I went for the newer UA-101 which is exactly the same as the FA-101, but with a USB connection instead of a firewire (plus a hardware limiter). In this one recording is supported only in the latest ALSA, however playback is corrupted at the moment. Generally ALSA has good support for USB devices.
aKis
On 13 April 2010 12:19, Olivier Baudu lamouraupeuple@gmail.com wrote:
Good expérience with the Presonus Firepod FP10 (8 e/s, 8 preamps)... Around 250 €...
01livier
2010/4/12 Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com
Cool, thanks everybody for the comprehensive and useful information! cheers,
Marco
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Husk 00 husk00@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:51 PM, ydegoyon@gmail.com ydegoyon@gmail.comwrote:
s'lam
I haven't checked recently, but I still have the impression that
firewire soundcards are poorly supported on linux...
the edirols FA-66 and FA-101 are working fine ..
saludos, sevy
I confirm, fa-101 worked perfectly for our last project! bye husk
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On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 04:00:09PM +0300, Arxontis Politis wrote:
Just a note for a soundcard to avoid - judging from the really positive reviews on the Edirols (FA-66 and FA-101) I went for the newer UA-101 which is exactly the same as the FA-101, but with a USB connection instead of a firewire (plus a hardware limiter). In this one recording is supported only in the latest ALSA, however playback is corrupted at the moment. Generally ALSA has good support for USB devices.
For USB-1 devices only. USB 2 is shaky.
Ciao
Frank
I'm considering to go for the Saffire PRO 40. It's not fully supported at the moment, but FFADO received quite good help from them, they say it's going to be fully supported soon (next 2.1 FFADO release). Any experience about it?
I'd prefer to buy this and wait, because of its features and quality, Edirol seems fine but it's too simple for my needs. PCI looks good too but I'm looking for something different. thanks again..
You are right, I have a FA-101 . It works great, but it lack a mixer and standalone operation. I regret dont wait and buy a sapffire, but i needed it in short time, so i bought it.
I think is a good choice
2010/4/14 Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com
I'm considering to go for the Saffire PRO 40. It's not fully supported at the moment, but FFADO received quite good help from them, they say it's going to be fully supported soon (next 2.1 FFADO release). Any experience about it?
I'd prefer to buy this and wait, because of its features and quality, Edirol seems fine but it's too simple for my needs. PCI looks good too but I'm looking for something different. thanks again..
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On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:48 PM, tim vets timvets@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, on ubuntu, I have good experience with: -echo layla 3g (8in8out,2preamps, phantom...) -m-audio delta 1010LT -m-audio delta 44 -rme hammerfall dsp + multiface, both PCI and PCMCIA (note: the output jack sockets are too close to each other, which can give you a hard time connecting more than 2 cables with 'sturdy' jacks.) all those worked pretty much out of the box
bad experience with: -firewire soundcard using 'freebob' driver (I think the brand was motu, or presonus, or focusrite, one of those, I don't remember exactly...but, while it was officially supposed to work (checked alsa soundcard matrix) it didn't...) I haven't checked recently, but I still have the impression that firewire soundcards are poorly supported on linux...
2 cents regarding...
- Firewire: the FFADO driver which works with Jack is under active
development so more cards start working - not with ALSA or PulseAudio however. They *are* sensitive to different firewire chipsets and Texas Instruments is told to be the best for them. Anyway i found the firewire connection pretty fragile because of the physical design of the firewire connectors and because if the connection gets interrupted for a fraction of a second it will fail.
- MOTU: one of the best sounding cards in my experience, just don't buy one
because they are extremely unreliable and their customer service is plain crap.
Get an RME if you have any chance!
Andras
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