Yes... indeed.

Thanks for your help... that stumped me for quite a while.

-Mike

----- Original Message ----- From: "Johannes Burström" johannes@ljud.org To: "Mike Wozniewski" mike@ozmediasolutions.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [PD] problem with zexy external: matrix~

Hi

Sounds like cyclone's matrix~ is loaded instead. try to start pd with the "-lib zexy" flag before "-lib cyclone" (or similar), and it should work.

regards, Johannes

Mike Wozniewski wrote:

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Hi. I have the Zexy library running with Pd 0.37.1 on Windows.... but it doesn't work quite right. Upon instantiation, I get the following message: warning (matrix~): dummy substitution and then even when I load the help file, I get a bunch of errors: error (miXed): missing or bad arguments in "matrix~" error (miXed): missing or bad arguments in "matrix~" matrix~.pd 13 0 23 4 (gatom->matrix~) connection failed matrix~.pd 15 0 16 0 (message->text~) connection failed matrix~.pd 16 0 23 3 (text->matrix~) connection failed matrix~.pd 17 0 18 0 (message->text~) connection failed matrix~.pd 18 0 23 3 (text->matrix~) connection failed matrix~.pd 19 0 21 0 (message->text~) connection failed matrix~.pd 20 0 22 0 (message->text~) connection failed matrix~.pd 21 0 23 3 (gatom->matrix~) connection failed matrix~.pd 22 0 23 3 (gatom->matrix~) connection failed Does anyone have any ideas what could be wrong? I've tried using the zexy.dll from the website, I've built matrix~ myself from source... nothing seems to give. Also - something that's really strange: if I delete all dll's (ie, zexy.dll, matrix~.dll), the object still instantiates and gives the same error (!?) what object am I loading? Thanks, Mike

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Hallo, oliver hat gesagt: // oliver wrote:

hasn't there been a discussion on this list for quite a while, how to avoid those extarnal-name-clashes? is there any practicable solution to tell PD, that when i create and [Append] object, i want to have the [append] of the (surely loaded!) "cyclone" library

There is no [append] in Cyclone AFAIK. If there was, this would be a serious bug, as names of internals should not be used by externals (for now).

and not PD's native [append] (for scalar's) ?

This sounds like a MS-Windows issue, because MS-Windows does strange things with filenames that only differ in Uppercase/lowercase letters. If I create [Append] I get the cyclone [Append], not the Pd [append]. I find it hard to believe, that Pd will create its internal [append] when you specify something like [Append] (but I didn't test for lack of MS-Windows)

Ciao

Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__

Johannes Burström wrote: ...

Sounds like cyclone's matrix~ is loaded instead. try to start pd with the "-lib zexy" flag before "-lib cyclone" (or similar), and it should

or better install a newer cyclone. Since alpha51, cyclone loads dummy substitutions only in max-compatibility mode. Whatever the order: -lib cyclone -lib zexy, or otherwise, you would always get matrix~ from zexy.

However, in max-compatibility mode, you would always get matrix~ from cyclone, even if -lib zexy has been loaded first.

Since alpha52, cyclone's matrix~ is no longer a dummy.

Krzysztof