Piotr Majdak wrote:

Hi!

IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

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well, "pd --help" works perfectly and writes the help to the stderr. however, on windows, the stderr is sent to nirvana (there have been a number of posts on this topic (regarding the "-stderr" - flag), see the archives)

A funny definition of "perfectly", from my point of view ;-) Where did pd send the messages in 0.37 versions? ("pd --help" worked perfectly for this version on Windows)

oh, please do read the archives, this has all been explained several times.

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but you are quite right this should be fixed somehow

That'd be nice. Maybe we could something like that:

if(windows) use_older_method_whatever_it_was; else use_stderr_instead;

this does not work (as has been described earlier), because pd.exe (>=0.38) is a non-DOS application (it does not provide an entry-hook "int main()" any more)

you probably did not notice because you always start pd via a batch-script (which launches a DOS-box), but if you click on the pd.exe you will notice that the console is gone.

however this means, that everything pd writes to stderr (and it _does_ still write to the stderr when you start "pd -help") will be swallowed by {mr.gates himself (at least i would want him to)} {your operating system)

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(otoh, i guess that miller want people to use the preferences-settings instead of flags (and .bat-files))

I start pd and it's configuration remotely using batch files. The ability to do that was one reason of chosing pd years ago. It would be nice providing this feature in further versions. Honestly, it's essential for me...

i don't think this feature will ever vanish.

Do you know where can i get the list and syntax of switches? (Besides keeping an obsolete version on the disk just for "pd --help" :-)

i can think of several methods: -> read the code ;-) -> create a "pd-flags.txt" file from an obsolete version -> ssh to a osX/linux machine with a recent pd installed and try "pd --help" -> read the archives (for further ideas) -> ...

it would also be nice to have the list of flags available from within pd, like "Help->ListOfCommandLineFlags"; since you are allowed to add arbitrary command-line flags via the properties-menu you ought to know them...

mfg.asd.r IOhannes