--- On Thu, 2/17/11, Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter To: "Jonathan Wilkes" jancsika@yahoo.com Cc: padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk, pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 9:25 PM On Thu, 17 Feb 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
if { $xlets_involved > 2 } { menu_doc_open
attachment_dir horiz-connections.pd }
Error: Success
Now what's the problem with horizontal wires ?
I mean those that aren't overlapping any inlets or outlets, not the ones in your patch.
Here's a revised version where the wires aren't overlapping.
How do you know they aren't overlapping?
- Use pd-ext and notice the difference between the 1px gray box and the
1px black connections. 2) Actually move the object to _reveal_ that the connection don't overlap. 3) Always assume that the patch creator followed the rule of "don't overlap xlets".
1 is implementation specific and ridiculously subtle for an environment where "the diagram is the code", 2 is wasting people's time by making them fuss around in the patch in order to be sure they understand what it does, and 3 is easy to screw up:
__[inlet]_ [f] [f]
(On a narrow object like [f] it's very easy to make a connection to the wrong inlet. Well, not as easy on pd-l2ork...)
So I guess qualify it to "no horizontal connections unless there's only 1 inlet and 1 outlet involved".
-Jonathan
(We already agreed against overlapping wires)
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
I noticed this too.
Miller is quite fond of using it in "Theory and Techniques".
I do from time to time, but only if the connection is a leftmost or rightmost control/message connection.
For certain kinds of patch, where you mostly have audio DSP runnimg down the page, and occasional parameterisation by number or recieve boxes to the sides, having them hoizontal makes for a kind of nice clarity, audio vertical, messages horizontal.
But break the rule rather than do anything ambiguous.
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:13:05 -0800 (PST) Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com wrote:
--- On Thu, 2/17/11, Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter To: "Jonathan Wilkes" jancsika@yahoo.com Cc: padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk, pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 9:25 PM On Thu, 17 Feb 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
if { $xlets_involved > 2 } { menu_doc_open
attachment_dir horiz-connections.pd }
Error: Success
Now what's the problem with horizontal wires ?
I mean those that aren't overlapping any inlets or outlets, not the ones in your patch.
Here's a revised version where the wires aren't overlapping.
How do you know they aren't overlapping?
- Use pd-ext and notice the difference between the 1px gray box and the
1px black connections. 2) Actually move the object to _reveal_ that the connection don't overlap. 3) Always assume that the patch creator followed the rule of "don't overlap xlets".
1 is implementation specific and ridiculously subtle for an environment where "the diagram is the code", 2 is wasting people's time by making them fuss around in the patch in order to be sure they understand what it does, and 3 is easy to screw up:
__[inlet]_ [f] [f]
(On a narrow object like [f] it's very easy to make a connection to the wrong inlet. Well, not as easy on pd-l2ork...)
So I guess qualify it to "no horizontal connections unless there's only 1 inlet and 1 outlet involved".
-Jonathan
(We already agreed against overlapping wires)
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
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