I'm trying to figure out PD's fileformat, and I can't fully succeed.
Could someone help me with this:
- vslider and hslider have their initial value stored as a multiple of
- Why?
- what is the purpose of the new_old switch on vradio and hradio?
- what does the last value of a vu and a cnv mean? why is it always 0?
Greetz, Tjeerd Sietsma
electronic music student @HKU Utrecht School of the Arts Faculty of Media, Art and Technology
Tjeerd Sietsma wrote:
I'm trying to figure out PD's fileformat, and I can't fully succeed.
i am not sure at all, but i will probably ask thomas tomorrow, when he is here again.
Could someone help me with this:
- vslider and hslider have their initial value stored as a multiple of
- Why?
the values are stored as integers (but i have no idea why). *100 scales the value to a more used range.
- what is the purpose of the new_old switch on vradio and hradio?
this is old behaviour of the radio-buttons which i have (succesfully, i think) convinced thomas to get rid of. the idea was, that each time you hit a radio-button, it would first send out a message indicating which button has been DEselected and immediately afterwards a message describing which button has been SELECTED.
switching from 7 to 3 would result in message "7 0, 3 1";
as this can easily be build as a pd abstraction, now the radio's only output "3" (the newly selected button)
- what does the last value of a vu and a cnv mean? why is it always 0?
these are either leftovers from previous versions or, what is more likely, are just artefacts because of some generic helper-functions (from g_all_guis)
mfg.as.dr IOhannes
Hallo, Johannes M Zmoelnig hat gesagt: // Johannes M Zmoelnig wrote:
Tjeerd Sietsma wrote:
- what is the purpose of the new_old switch on vradio and hradio?
this is old behaviour of the radio-buttons which i have (succesfully, i think) convinced thomas to get rid of. the idea was, that each time you hit a radio-button, it would first send out a message indicating which button has been DEselected and immediately afterwards a message describing which button has been SELECTED.
switching from 7 to 3 would result in message "7 0, 3 1";
as this can easily be build as a pd abstraction, now the radio's only output "3" (the newly selected button)
Ah, that's why this functionality doesn't work anymore!! The Properties panel should to be changed, too, I suggest. Currently "new&old" is still the default there, which is very confusing. Or has this already happened in 0.38?
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
Hmm... I looked at the "new&old" thing and can't understand what's going on at all. Anyway, I'm hoping to treat the old behavior as "obsolete" and make it impossible to make old-style ones, but still support old-style ones in peoples' patches.
cheers Miller
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 10:58:44AM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, Johannes M Zmoelnig hat gesagt: // Johannes M Zmoelnig wrote:
Tjeerd Sietsma wrote:
- what is the purpose of the new_old switch on vradio and hradio?
this is old behaviour of the radio-buttons which i have (succesfully, i think) convinced thomas to get rid of. the idea was, that each time you hit a radio-button, it would first send out a message indicating which button has been DEselected and immediately afterwards a message describing which button has been SELECTED.
switching from 7 to 3 would result in message "7 0, 3 1";
as this can easily be build as a pd abstraction, now the radio's only output "3" (the newly selected button)
Ah, that's why this functionality doesn't work anymore!! The Properties panel should to be changed, too, I suggest. Currently "new&old" is still the default there, which is very confusing. Or has this already happened in 0.38?
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
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