OK, there are and there will be more videos about PD on youtube and colleagues. The problem is not to organize PD contents on youtube, this monopolistic video vacuum-cleaner, but to organize the links to the youtube/dailymotion etc. PD videos to find the right video at the right time.
Some solutions:
-create a "video links" page on the official puredata.info wiki, with categories index, links and descriptions of each film +tag about the language of the video.
-create an international "video links" page on pdpedia wiki, with categories index, links and descriptions of each film+tag about the language of the video.
but I would prefer:
-Install a PDmotion video server, exempted from advertising, ( Oggvorbis/theora/icecast or Red5 driven ), and use PDpedia.
....
JN
I use youtube mainly because it is simple and everybody know it and yea, i like vacuum-cleaners, above all their sound... ;-)
i agree with you about having a pd video search engine even embedded in a dedicated pdpedia wiki page.
But i have thought a PD Videopedia mainly as a community effort to make filters and to extend the community itself...
i have some experience in music/audio teaching and training: a beginner prefers a filtered information because actually he doesn't know exactly what to search in mare magnum, and categories can help him in the pd discovery. and there is always a rizoma danger... geeks like Deleuze's rizomas, but students need Porfirio's trees... (a really weak thought :)
maybe we should have the two paradigms search-engine/filtered-information embedded in a pdpedia wiki page using a a PDmotion video server (but i really don't know how to implement it, i'd need your help). What do you think?
In the meantime please continue to signal video stuff and feel free to partecipate/sponsor this project.
ciao j
--- Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr ha scritto:
OK, there are and there will be more videos about PD on youtube and colleagues. The problem is not to organize PD contents on youtube, this monopolistic video vacuum-cleaner, but to organize the links to the youtube/dailymotion etc. PD videos to find the right video at the right time.
Some solutions:
-create a "video links" page on the official puredata.info wiki, with categories index, links and descriptions of each film +tag about the language of the video.
-create an international "video links" page on pdpedia wiki, with categories index, links and descriptions of each film+tag about the language of the video.
but I would prefer:
-Install a PDmotion video server, exempted from advertising, ( Oggvorbis/theora/icecast or Red5 driven ), and use PDpedia.
....
JN
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I think the main problem with youtube is that you can't download the
source video. Bascally they try to prevent you from downloading it.
You can download the .flv with some hacks, but it would be nicer to
use a site that encourages people to download videos in a format that
is easily reusable (e.g. archive.org).
As long as people also publish the videos elsewhere in a good format,
I don't think it's a problem having them up on youtube. And youtube
works write now, so I think that this youtube channel is definitely a
worthwhile project.
.hc
On Dec 12, 2007, at 5:31 PM, giucant wrote:
I use youtube mainly because it is simple and everybody know it and yea, i like vacuum-cleaners, above all their sound... ;-)
i agree with you about having a pd video search engine even embedded in a dedicated pdpedia wiki page.
But i have thought a PD Videopedia mainly as a community effort to make filters and to extend the community itself...
i have some experience in music/audio teaching and training: a beginner prefers a filtered information because actually he doesn't know exactly what to search in mare magnum, and categories can help him in the pd discovery. and there is always a rizoma danger... geeks like Deleuze's rizomas, but students need Porfirio's trees... (a really weak thought :)
maybe we should have the two paradigms search-engine/filtered-information embedded in a pdpedia wiki page using a a PDmotion video server (but i really don't know how to implement it, i'd need your help). What do you think?
In the meantime please continue to signal video stuff and feel free to partecipate/sponsor this project.
ciao j
--- Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr ha scritto:
OK, there are and there will be more videos about PD on youtube and colleagues. The problem is not to organize PD contents on youtube, this monopolistic video vacuum-cleaner, but to organize the links to the youtube/dailymotion etc. PD videos to find the right video at the right time.
Some solutions:
-create a "video links" page on the official puredata.info wiki, with categories index, links and descriptions of each film +tag about the language of the video.
-create an international "video links" page on pdpedia wiki, with categories index, links and descriptions of each film+tag about the language of the video.
but I would prefer:
-Install a PDmotion video server, exempted from advertising, ( Oggvorbis/theora/icecast or Red5 driven ), and use PDpedia.
....
JN
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Hallo, i've signed up a 'pilot' PD Videopedia community channel. http://www.youtube.com/PureDataVideopedia
user: PureDataVideopedia pass: puredata
i've also started organizing playlists: http://www.youtube.com/profile_play_list?user=PureDataVideopedia
Please feel free to manage/add/move... contents. You can also ulpoad new original videos.
Actually they have my mail address, but if you want and if it is possible i can give pd-list mail.
Enjoy j
--- Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org ha scritto:
I think the main problem with youtube is that you can't download the
source video. Bascally they try to prevent you from downloading it.
You can download the .flv with some hacks, but it would be nicer to
use a site that encourages people to download videos in a format that
is easily reusable (e.g. archive.org).As long as people also publish the videos elsewhere in a good format,
I don't think it's a problem having them up on youtube. And youtube
works write now, so I think that this youtube channel is definitely a
worthwhile project..hc
On Dec 12, 2007, at 5:31 PM, giucant wrote:
I use youtube mainly because it is simple and everybody know it and yea, i like vacuum-cleaners, above all their sound... ;-)
i agree with you about having a pd video search
engine
even embedded in a dedicated pdpedia wiki page.
But i have thought a PD Videopedia mainly as a community effort to make filters and to extend the community itself...
i have some experience in music/audio teaching and training: a beginner prefers a filtered
information
because actually he doesn't know exactly what to search in mare magnum, and categories can help him
in
the pd discovery. and there is always a rizoma danger... geeks like Deleuze's rizomas, but students need Porfirio's trees... (a really weak thought :)
maybe we should have the two paradigms search-engine/filtered-information embedded in a pdpedia wiki page using a a PDmotion video server
(but
i really don't know how to implement it, i'd need
your
help). What do you think?
In the meantime please continue to signal video
stuff
and feel free to partecipate/sponsor this project.
ciao j
--- Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr ha scritto:
OK, there are and there will be more videos about
PD
on youtube and colleagues. The problem is not to organize PD contents on youtube, this monopolistic video vacuum-cleaner, but to organize the links to the youtube/dailymotion etc. PD videos to find
the
right video at the right time.
Some solutions:
-create a "video links" page on the official puredata.info wiki, with categories index, links and descriptions of each film +tag about the language of the video.
-create an international "video links" page on pdpedia wiki, with categories index, links and descriptions of each film+tag about the language of the video.
but I would prefer:
-Install a PDmotion video server, exempted from advertising, ( Oggvorbis/theora/icecast or Red5 driven ), and
use
PDpedia.
....
JN
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Hi
When using pd onsite without a network connection i cannot edit files with pd-extened RC5 on Ubuntu Gutsy. If a ethernet cable is connected i can edit files, but if i am not wired in i cannot make new connections or edit a file. Is there a way to workaround this?
pp
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bigswift wrote:
Hi
When using pd onsite without a network connection i cannot edit files with pd-extened RC5 on Ubuntu Gutsy. If a ethernet cable is connected i can edit files, but if i am not wired in i cannot make new connections or edit a file. Is there a way to workaround this?
Put the files on the same machine your keyboard is connected to?
Martin
Hi,
Looks like your 'lo' isn't set up correctly on boot, something similar is here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap/+bug/110144
Martin Peach wrote:
bigswift wrote:
Hi
When using pd onsite without a network connection i cannot edit files with pd-extened RC5 on Ubuntu Gutsy. If a ethernet cable is connected i can edit files, but if i am not wired in i cannot make new connections or edit a file. Is there a way to workaround this?
Put the files on the same machine your keyboard is connected to?
Martin
Claude
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Martin Peach wrote:
bigswift wrote:
When using pd onsite without a network connection i cannot edit files with pd-extened RC5 on Ubuntu Gutsy. If a ethernet cable is connected i can edit files, but if i am not wired in i cannot make new connections or edit a file. Is there a way to workaround this?
Put the files on the same machine your keyboard is connected to?
I suggest that you disconnect your keyboard while you make suggestions like this one ;)
Seriously, isn't that a problem with the routing on network interface lo? I had problems like that because a certain version of a DHCP program would take the default as being "DHCP on all connections", but no-one runs a DHCP server on lo, and everybody has lo, so it would erase the lo settings every damn time, if you forget to specify a network interface as an argument.
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Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Martin Peach wrote:
bigswift wrote:
When using pd onsite without a network connection i cannot edit files with pd-extened RC5 on Ubuntu Gutsy. If a ethernet cable is connected i can edit files, but if i am not wired in i cannot make new connections or edit a file. Is there a way to workaround this?
Put the files on the same machine your keyboard is connected to?
I suggest that you disconnect your keyboard while you make suggestions like this one ;)
Just eliminating the obvious, like "My computer doesn't work" "Did you plug it in?" "Er, never mind" ;)
Seriously, isn't that a problem with the routing on network interface lo? I had problems like that because a certain version of a DHCP program would take the default as being "DHCP on all connections", but no-one runs a DHCP server on lo, and everybody has lo, so it would erase the lo settings every damn time, if you forget to specify a network interface as an argument.
I think pd wouldn't even start up if lo wasn't enabled (because there would be no route to the gui). Why would the presence of a connection to some other machine affect anything if no necessary resources are on that machine?
Martin
see i thought that as well but pd starts and will not let me edit a patch
issuing sudo ifconfig lo up
did not work.
i know this is OT, but any tips might help
pp
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Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Martin Peach wrote:
bigswift wrote:
When using pd onsite without a network connection i cannot edit files with pd-extened RC5 on Ubuntu Gutsy. If a ethernet cable is connected i can edit files, but if i am not wired in i cannot make new connections or edit a file. Is there a way to workaround this?
Put the files on the same machine your keyboard is connected to?
I suggest that you disconnect your keyboard while you make suggestions like this one ;)
Just eliminating the obvious, like "My computer doesn't work" "Did you plug it in?" "Er, never mind" ;)
Seriously, isn't that a problem with the routing on network interface lo? I had problems like that because a certain version of a DHCP program would take the default as being "DHCP on all connections", but no-one runs a DHCP server on lo, and everybody has lo, so it would erase the lo settings every damn time, if you forget to specify a network interface as an argument.
I think pd wouldn't even start up if lo wasn't enabled (because there would be no route to the gui). Why would the presence of a connection to some other machine affect anything if no necessary resources are on that machine?
Martin
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I agree with what you say, but I think it wouldn't hurt to have a
youtube channel. I think we should do both. Having a youtube
channel would be great since many people are already submitting
content there and it is very high profile. But we should encourage
people to use free media like archive.org, freesound, pdpedia,
wikipedia, etc.
I don't think we need to have our own video server, there are already
a number of good free ones, like archive.org.
.hc
On Dec 12, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Jean-Noël Montagné wrote:
OK, there are and there will be more videos about PD on youtube and colleagues. The problem is not to organize PD contents on youtube, this monopolistic video vacuum-cleaner, but to organize the links to the youtube/dailymotion etc. PD videos to find the right video at the right time.
Some solutions:
-create a "video links" page on the official puredata.info wiki, with categories index, links and descriptions of each film +tag about the language of the video.
-create an international "video links" page on pdpedia wiki, with categories index, links and descriptions of each film+tag about the language of the video.
but I would prefer:
-Install a PDmotion video server, exempted from advertising, ( Oggvorbis/theora/icecast or Red5 driven ), and use PDpedia.
....
JN
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