... this morning:
in that dream there was my good old 700 mhz win desktop pc with a linux installed and a fine running pd with gridflow and gem running like hell on it... ... but, ups, wait.. linux.?. after so many days and nights spending in front of this mysthical pinguin, with the feeling of never understood less about computers than in that moment ? try again to discover the unknown depths of your comp ? spending weeks for figuring out why your hardware dont work ? be horrorfied by a monster called unix ? hmmm. YES
i think its a good winter to wake up the pinguin again and try to learn something usefull ....
ok heres my question to all the experts and freaks:
please help
, which linux you would prefer ? the goal is to run pd/gridflow (oh how wonderfull it could be) etc. and to learn about linux ? debian, mandrake, suse, red hat and i heard about a special multimedie linux, but forgot its name. tell me ...
, where can i find good instructions for a weak win user, who wants to experience all this compiling stuff etc ?
, is there a tutorial or something which can bring me to my goal, step by step ? (ok, surly not available, the install linux/pd tutorial for dummies)
in one sentence, i am looking for a guru who leads me through the dark path of personal operating systems..
thanx for reading
--- Dirk Koritnik dk@schwingkreise.de wrote:
... this morning:
in that dream there was my good old 700 mhz win desktop pc with a linux installed and a fine running pd with gridflow and gem running like hell on it... ... but, ups, wait.. linux.?. after so many days and nights spending in front of this mysthical pinguin, with the feeling of never understood less about computers than in that moment ? try again to discover the unknown depths of your comp ? spending weeks for figuring out why your hardware dont work ? be horrorfied by a monster called unix ? hmmm. YES
i think its a good winter to wake up the pinguin again and try to learn something usefull ....
ok heres my question to all the experts and freaks:
please help
, which linux you would prefer ? the goal is to run pd/gridflow (oh how wonderfull it could be) etc. and to learn about linux ? debian, mandrake, suse, red hat and i heard about a special multimedie linux, but forgot its name. tell me ...
, where can i find good instructions for a weak win user, who wants to experience all this compiling stuff etc ?
, is there a tutorial or something which can bring me to my goal, step by step ? (ok, surly not available, the install linux/pd tutorial for dummies)
in one sentence, i am looking for a guru who leads me through the dark path of personal operating systems..
thanx for reading
Hmmmmm..
That sounds very familiar. i just went through that and its really hard, anyway i dont know GEM but my pd is running, with a Hammerfall DSP Card, which was the most complicated card of all i think.
So whenever you want to ask, ask !!
It is going to be a long, long way ........
The very first thing to start with is with the partitions or do you want to use separate HD's ???
BTW: Where do you live and what is your interest ??
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, which linux you would prefer ? the goal is to run pd/gridflow (oh how wonderfull it could be) etc. and to learn about linux ? debian, mandrake, suse, red hat and i heard about a special multimedie linux, but forgot its name. tell me ...
i recommend planetCCRMA on top of redhat 9 highly. they have good, detailed installation instructions on their site and are very responsive on their mailing list:
http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
Whats the best choice for linux PPC? Does redhat run on PPC?
Ben
, which linux you would prefer ? the goal is to run pd/gridflow (oh how wonderfull it could be) etc. and to learn about linux ? debian, mandrake, suse, red hat and i heard about a special multimedie linux, but forgot its name. tell me ...
i recommend planetCCRMA on top of redhat 9 highly. they have good, detailed installation instructions on their site and are very responsive on their mailing list:
http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
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redhat runs on ppc. probably the easiest to start with. however, the wonderful PlanetCCRMA packages are made for i686 architecture, so you will be back to compiling your critical audio apps yourself if there isn't a standard Red Hat PPC package for it [such as Jack, Ardour, probably also no PD with Jack capabilties, etc etc]. yellowdog is specific for PPC, but i don't know much about it... gentoo is supposed to be great for PPCs, if you have some time on your hands for configuration. but gentoo has a live, bootable OS cdrom for PPC you can download to try out first.
good luck! d.
ben@ekran.org wrote:
Whats the best choice for linux PPC? Does redhat run on PPC?
Ben
On Saturday 01 November 2003 14:43, derek holzer wrote:
redhat runs on ppc. probably the easiest to start with. however, the wonderful PlanetCCRMA packages are made for i686 architecture, so you will be back to compiling your critical audio apps yourself if there isn't a standard Red Hat PPC package for it [such as Jack, Ardour, probably also no PD with Jack capabilties, etc etc]. yellowdog is specific for PPC, but i don't know much about it... gentoo is supposed to be great for PPCs, if you have some time on your hands for configuration. but gentoo has a live, bootable OS cdrom for PPC you can download to try out first.
good luck! d.
Derek, you really need to fix your caps key. This is quite painful to read at four o-clock in the morning!
Assuming that your message is somehow about the pros and cons of using RPM's (seriously, it's so bad that I can't read through it), I can say for what it's worth that I've kind of sworn off the whole RPM concept as of late. The problem with the scheme, is that you can't simply install tarballs. For example, I recently tried to get some package from planet ccrma, and it complained that I don't have a recent enough version of Jack, which of course isn't true. It seems that you either have to install everything using RPMs, or forget RPMs entirely and install everything from what ever you find on the author's web sites. Lately I find it's much simpler to take the second approach. Certainly if someone has had some luck combining the two methods, I'd like to hear some details of how they go about it.
Larry
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 04:23:30AM -0500, Larry Troxler wrote:
It seems that you either have to install everything using RPMs, or forget RPMs entirely and install everything from what ever you find on the author's web sites. Lately I find it's much simpler to take the second approach. Certainly if someone has had some luck combining the two methods, I'd like to hear some details of how they go about it.
In my early years as a Linux user, I was not using package management like rpm, I was simply compiling and installing (./configure;make;make install). It was fun, because I was able to try many obscure softwares very quickly, but the my computer became very messy and I was unable to keep track of what I installed. Using package management is better.
For PD, it is possible to survive without package management, but it can get messy real quick. I'm still in the process of building a rpm for most CVS externals, and I'm glad I did because it really is a pain to compile that CVS mess. Sadly, I'm still fighting with complicated (and buggy) softwares like Gem and pdp/pidip.
-- Marc
Sadly, I'm still fighting with complicated (and buggy) softwares like Gem and pdp/pidip.
i'm sorry, tio, i can't read this happily since i bnever receive a bug report from you.
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ok, first thx to all of you, i was suprised and glad about all this answers and inspiring comments .. think i start loving this mailinglist :-)
I run Debian PPC on my PowerBook. Thanks to Guenter, most of the code in the Pd CVS is available on Debian i386 or PPC (and probably others).
I plan on setting up a pure-data.org Debian repository for the straight-out-of-cvs packages, where I'll have both PPC and i386 .debs.
.hc
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 ben@ekran.org wrote:
Whats the best choice for linux PPC? Does redhat run on PPC?
Ben
, which linux you would prefer ? the goal is to run pd/gridflow (oh how wonderfull it could be) etc. and to learn about linux ? debian, mandrake, suse, red hat and i heard about a special multimedie linux, but forgot its name. tell me ...
i recommend planetCCRMA on top of redhat 9 highly. they have good, detailed installation instructions on their site and are very responsive on their mailing list:
http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
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