Howdy José,
I updated the overall dialogs, including live updates without the Apply button on OSX. This work is overall finalized and included with Pd 0.47.
Can you explain what you mean by: "This really makes programming GUI very time wasting."
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Jan 2, 2017, at 1:17 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: José Rafael Subía Valdez <jsubiavaldez@gmail.com mailto:jsubiavaldez@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PD] plans for Pd 0.48 Date: January 2, 2017 at 1:00:05 PM MST To: "pd-list@iem.at mailto:pd-list@iem.at" <pd-list@iem.at mailto:pd-list@iem.at>
Hello list,
just to ask if there is any ruling on the Apple Human Interface Guidelines for the "apply" button in properties. This really makes programming GUI very time wasting. I do not know it what stage is this in. I know the other topics being discussed are more important in a deeper programming sense, but these little things add up a lot of time when programming.
cheers
Just that not having an apply means that you need to accept the changes and that closes the dialog, so if you dont like the result, you need to go into the properties again, with an apply button, you could see the results before quitting that menu.
I don't understand, so you mean that this is the definite ruling on that? I thought maybe a better solution was being researched. I miss the "Apply" button
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Howdy José,
I updated the overall dialogs, including live updates without the Apply button on OSX. This work is overall finalized and included with Pd 0.47.
Can you explain what you mean by: "This really makes programming GUI very time wasting."
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Jan 2, 2017, at 1:17 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
*From: *José Rafael Subía Valdez jsubiavaldez@gmail.com *Subject: **Re: [PD] plans for Pd 0.48* *Date: *January 2, 2017 at 1:00:05 PM MST *To: *"pd-list@iem.at" pd-list@iem.at
Hello list,
just to ask if there is any ruling on the Apple Human Interface Guidelines for the "apply" button in properties. This really makes programming GUI very time wasting. I do not know it what stage is this in. I know the other topics being discussed are more important in a deeper programming sense, but these little things add up a lot of time when programming.
cheers
On Jan 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez jsubiavaldez@gmail.com wrote:
Just that not having an apply means that you need to accept the changes and that closes the dialog, so if you dont like the result, you need to go into the properties again, with an apply button, you could see the results before quitting that menu.
Change something in a dialog and then hit enter. The result will be shown immediately without having to close the dialog. You can also navigate between widgets using the tab, so you can do everything with just the keyboard.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Oh!!! thank you!, I would have never tried to do that as I got used to the "apply" button, thanks :)
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez < jsubiavaldez@gmail.com> wrote:
Just that not having an apply means that you need to accept the changes and that closes the dialog, so if you dont like the result, you need to go into the properties again, with an apply button, you could see the results before quitting that menu.
Change something in a dialog and then hit enter. The result will be shown immediately without having to close the dialog. You can also navigate between widgets using the tab, so you can do everything with just the keyboard.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
That’s the Apple approach, I just enabled it. :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Jan 2, 2017, at 4:40 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez jsubiavaldez@gmail.com wrote:
Oh!!! thank you!, I would have never tried to do that as I got used to the "apply" button, thanks :)
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez <jsubiavaldez@gmail.com mailto:jsubiavaldez@gmail.com> wrote:
Just that not having an apply means that you need to accept the changes and that closes the dialog, so if you dont like the result, you need to go into the properties again, with an apply button, you could see the results before quitting that menu.
Change something in a dialog and then hit enter. The result will be shown immediately without having to close the dialog. You can also navigate between widgets using the tab, so you can do everything with just the keyboard.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
-- José Rafael Subía Valdez www.jrsv.net http://www.jrsv.net/
Hi Dan,
Is this documented somewhere? I've been paging through this recently:
https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/UserExperience/Con...
but I don't know if it's current. Of special interest is that "cancel" is supposed to revert even after applying with anything other than "OK."
Matt
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
That’s the Apple approach, I just enabled it. :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Jan 2, 2017, at 4:40 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez < jsubiavaldez@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh!!! thank you!, I would have never tried to do that as I got used to the "apply" button, thanks :)
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez < jsubiavaldez@gmail.com> wrote:
Just that not having an apply means that you need to accept the changes and that closes the dialog, so if you dont like the result, you need to go into the properties again, with an apply button, you could see the results before quitting that menu.
Change something in a dialog and then hit enter. The result will be shown immediately without having to close the dialog. You can also navigate between widgets using the tab, so you can do everything with just the keyboard.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
-- José Rafael Subía Valdez www.jrsv.net
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Well, let’s just say I “enabled it” without being slavish…
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Jan 2, 2017, at 5:47 PM, Matt Barber brbrofsvl@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dan,
Is this documented somewhere? I've been paging through this recently:
https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/UserExperience/Con... https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/WindowDialogs.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20000957-CH43-SW3
but I don't know if it's current. Of special interest is that "cancel" is supposed to revert even after applying with anything other than "OK."
Matt
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote: That’s the Apple approach, I just enabled it. :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Jan 2, 2017, at 4:40 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez <jsubiavaldez@gmail.com mailto:jsubiavaldez@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh!!! thank you!, I would have never tried to do that as I got used to the "apply" button, thanks :)
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez <jsubiavaldez@gmail.com mailto:jsubiavaldez@gmail.com> wrote:
Just that not having an apply means that you need to accept the changes and that closes the dialog, so if you dont like the result, you need to go into the properties again, with an apply button, you could see the results before quitting that menu.
Change something in a dialog and then hit enter. The result will be shown immediately without having to close the dialog. You can also navigate between widgets using the tab, so you can do everything with just the keyboard.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
-- José Rafael Subía Valdez www.jrsv.net http://www.jrsv.net/
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…but yeah, Cancel should probably return the state, but there’s not really a mechanism to do that. My updates were really a response to the fact there was no Apply button on OSX … maybe Apply makes more sense in the end? :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Jan 2, 2017, at 8:01 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Well, let’s just say I “enabled it” without being slavish…
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Jan 2, 2017, at 5:47 PM, Matt Barber <brbrofsvl@gmail.com mailto:brbrofsvl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dan,
Is this documented somewhere? I've been paging through this recently:
https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/UserExperience/Con... https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/WindowDialogs.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20000957-CH43-SW3
but I don't know if it's current. Of special interest is that "cancel" is supposed to revert even after applying with anything other than "OK."
Matt
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote: That’s the Apple approach, I just enabled it. :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Jan 2, 2017, at 4:40 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez <jsubiavaldez@gmail.com mailto:jsubiavaldez@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh!!! thank you!, I would have never tried to do that as I got used to the "apply" button, thanks :)
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez <jsubiavaldez@gmail.com mailto:jsubiavaldez@gmail.com> wrote:
Just that not having an apply means that you need to accept the changes and that closes the dialog, so if you dont like the result, you need to go into the properties again, with an apply button, you could see the results before quitting that menu.
Change something in a dialog and then hit enter. The result will be shown immediately without having to close the dialog. You can also navigate between widgets using the tab, so you can do everything with just the keyboard.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
-- José Rafael Subía Valdez www.jrsv.net http://www.jrsv.net/
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