any thought about this?
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/10/csound-for-live-the-power-of-csound-in...
Csound will never die.
.hc
On Oct 16, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
any thought about this?
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/10/csound-for-live-the-power-of-csound-in...
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best comment ever :)
M
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
Csound will never die.
.hc
On Oct 16, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
any thought about this?
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/10/csound-for-live-the-power-of-csound-in...
-- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
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Hi
Good times if your an Live user, there's Max for Live too- Live is a nice piece of software-used it a few years ago briefly and some friends use it.
Not too sure how csound will be implemented in Live but obviously there's csound for Pd ...and there's the thing...Pd offers the same plus more, as you know one could make there 'own' Live type environment from scratch with Pd with some effort. In fact did Live start out as just a big Max patch for sale?
That is why dispite the fact I think's it's a nice/effective enviroment for those that choose to use it, but for me it's unconvincing when compared to what you can get from Pd.
Just my thoughts! :)
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.comwrote:
best comment ever :)
M
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
Csound will never die.
.hc
On Oct 16, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
any thought about this?
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/10/csound-for-live-the-power-of-csound-in...
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Looks as a nice combination, Csound for great unique sound designs and Live for quick realtime sketches. Yep, you can do the same with Pd, even with bare C...but Csound is Csound...respect ;) I really don't use Live at all...Csound for Pd is even cooler IMHO. Josep M
From: hans@at.or.at To: devel@thesaddj.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:58:48 -0400 CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] OT: CSound for Live
Csound will never die. .hc On Oct 16, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:any thought about this? http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/10/csound-for-live-the-power-of-csound-in...
On 17/10/2011 21:42, Jeppi Jeppi wrote:
Looks as a nice combination, Csound for great unique sound designs and Live for quick realtime sketches. Yep, you can do the same with Pd, even with bare C...but Csound is Csound...respect ;)
I really don't use Live at all...Csound for Pd is even cooler IMHO.
And I *think* it's using Csound for max.. so it's kinda live + max + Csound.
Lorenzo.
Josep M
From: hans@at.or.at To: devel@thesaddj.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:58:48 -0400 CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] OT: CSound for Live
Csound will never die.
.hc
On Oct 16, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
any thought about this? http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/10/csound-for-live-the-power-of-csound-in-ableton-with-or-without-any-coding/ -- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com <http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/> | http://www.thesaddj.com <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/> _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Yeah, Csound4Live basically wraps Csound instruments and such in Max4Live using [csound~]. If [pd~] for Max gets going, you could then use Pd in Live. Though, if you already have Max, it might not seem as attractive.
.mmb
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lsutton@libero.it wrote:
On 17/10/2011 21:42, Jeppi Jeppi wrote:
Looks as a nice combination, Csound for great unique sound designs and Live for quick realtime sketches. Yep, you can do the same with Pd, even with bare C...but Csound is Csound...respect ;)
I really don't use Live at all...Csound for Pd is even cooler IMHO.
And I *think* it's using Csound for max.. so it's kinda live + max + Csound.
Lorenzo.
Josep M
From: hans@at.or.at To: devel@thesaddj.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:58:48 -0400 CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] OT: CSound for Live
Csound will never die.
.hc
On Oct 16, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
any thought about this?
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/10/csound-for-live-the-power-of-csound-in...
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well, for me Csound is replacing Ableton Live for concerts as realtime sound engine (multitrack loop player / processor plus as synthesizer), communicating with Pure Data/ GEM as visualization, both works well on Linux:
Cheers,
Malte
Marco,
i think it's more about convincing some of the AL users to experiment with these other forms of playing with sound, letting them know that it's possible to go further. And building a nice bridge for them. Personally, i'm currently in the process of switching completely to Pd from AL. But Max4Live was useful to me for a moment. I've been wanting to get in to Csound or Supercollider or Chuck (can't decide which one to pursue) to see what's up, but right now it's exactly like when I opened a max patch for the first time, even worse. So, i think it makes sense that these bridges are being made with AL (since AL is already the most interesting and versatile of the commercial DAW's, in my opinion).
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Malte Steiner steiner@block4.com wrote:
well, for me Csound is replacing Ableton Live for concerts as realtime sound engine (multitrack loop player / processor plus as synthesizer), communicating with Pure Data/ GEM as visualization, both works well on Linux:
Cheers,
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From: Epic Jefferson jeffreyconcepcion@gmail.com To: steiner@block4.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [PD] OT: CSound for Live
Marco,
i think it's more about convincing some of the AL users to experiment with these other forms of playing with sound, letting them know that it's possible to go further. And building a nice bridge for them. Personally, i'm currently in the process of switching completely to Pd from AL. But Max4Live was useful to me for a moment. I've been wanting to get in to Csound or Supercollider or Chuck (can't decide which one to pursue)
If it's realtime DSP you're after, choose Supercollider. Unlike Csound it was originally built for real time processing, and unlike ChucK it has a huge library of whatever the Supercollider equivalent is for Pd externals.
-Jonathan