Ok, now I see JN, yes i know that, but i'm looking for a solution within Pd itself, using only one parent patch to include and visualize different subpatches alternatively. It's about usability of a software developed in Pd, not about my personal laptop's screen resolution.
M
2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr
on linux and macos you can define many other workspaces to extend the size of your desk. on OSX, the software is "spaces",
JN
Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by "different screen spaces"?
(better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too)
2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr
did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ?
JN
This might be useful http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-04/037439.html
bot abstractions use this technique. You could have a parent abstraction containing gop subpatches, and then overlay them. Switch on/off their visibility with 'vis' property messages....
On 19 Nov 2009, at 14:32, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Ok, now I see JN, yes i know that, but i'm looking for a solution within Pd itself, using only one parent patch to include and visualize different subpatches alternatively. It's about usability of a software developed in Pd, not about my personal laptop's screen resolution.
M
2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr on linux and macos you can define many other workspaces to extend the size of your desk. on OSX, the software is "spaces",
JN
Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by "different screen spaces"?
(better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too)
2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ?
JN
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much thanks everybody for pointing out those examples, that's what i needed. I will be experimenting and posting some results. the [vis $1( approach looks promising, i have to test what about clicks in sound while using it in runtime with big GOP.
If anybody has still other ideas about different approaches is more than welcome. talk soon, cheers
Marco
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Si Mills smills@rootsix.net wrote:
This might be useful http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-04/037439.html
bot abstractions use this technique. You could have a parent abstraction containing gop subpatches, and then overlay them. Switch on/off their visibility with 'vis' property messages....
On 19 Nov 2009, at 14:32, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Ok, now I see JN, yes i know that, but i'm looking for a solution within Pd itself, using only one parent patch to include and visualize different subpatches alternatively. It's about usability of a software developed in Pd, not about my personal laptop's screen resolution.
M
2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr
on linux and macos you can define many other workspaces to extend the size of your desk. on OSX, the software is "spaces",
JN
Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by "different screen spaces"?
(better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too)
2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr
did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ?
JN
-- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D!
Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK
LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net
EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
another approach could be to make a very big gop with all your different
workspaces in it. and then change the canvas offset parameters with
[donecanvasdialog ...( to show only the part you have. that would in
reality create workspaces in a big canvas.
much thanks everybody for pointing out those examples, that's what i
needed. I will be experimenting and posting some results. the [vis $1( approach looks promising, i have to test what about clicks
in sound while using it in runtime with big GOP.If anybody has still other ideas about different approaches is more than welcome. talk soon, cheers
Marco
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Si Mills smills@rootsix.net wrote:
This might be useful http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-04/037439.html
bot abstractions use this technique. You could have a parent abstraction containing gop subpatches, and then overlay them. Switch on/off their visibility with 'vis' property messages....
On 19 Nov 2009, at 14:32, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Ok, now I see JN, yes i know that, but i'm looking for a solution
within Pd itself, using only one parent patch to include and visualize different subpatches alternatively. It's about usability of a software developed
in Pd, not about my personal laptop's screen resolution.M
2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr
on linux and macos you can define many other workspaces to extend the size of your desk. on OSX, the software is "spaces",
JN
Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by "different screen spaces"?
(better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate
too)2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr
did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx)
?JN
-- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D!
Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher -
Edinburgh, UKLAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net
EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
hey thanks Joao, your last advice - [donecanvasdialog... ( - wins by now:
- No pop-up needed (is it possible to have the same result of [vis $1( in a
parent patch avoiding pop-up?)
- get rid of scroll bars appearing here and there
- clean and neat (push 4 buttons get 4 workspaces)
- easy to implement
the only slightly "annoying" stuff is that changing every time the GOP's offset, when you close the patch you are requested to save. Is there a workaround for this?
Check the simple&fast example attached. cheers
M
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:24 PM, João Pais jmmmpais@googlemail.com wrote:
another approach could be to make a very big gop with all your different workspaces in it. and then change the canvas offset parameters with [donecanvasdialog ...( to show only the part you have. that would in reality create workspaces in a big canvas.
much thanks everybody for pointing out those examples, that's what i
needed. I will be experimenting and posting some results. the [vis $1( approach looks promising, i have to test what about clicks in sound while using it in runtime with big GOP.
If anybody has still other ideas about different approaches is more than welcome. talk soon, cheers
Marco
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Si Mills smills@rootsix.net wrote:
This might be useful
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-04/037439.html
bot abstractions use this technique. You could have a parent abstraction containing gop subpatches, and then overlay them. Switch on/off their visibility with 'vis' property messages....
On 19 Nov 2009, at 14:32, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Ok, now I see JN, yes i know that, but i'm looking for a solution within Pd itself, using only one parent patch to include and visualize different subpatches alternatively. It's about usability of a software developed in Pd, not about my personal laptop's screen resolution.
M
2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr
on linux and macos you can define many other workspaces to extend the
size of your desk. on OSX, the software is "spaces",
JN
Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by "different screen spaces"?
(better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too)
2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné jnm@rom.fr
did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ?
JN
-- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D!
Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK
LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net
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the only slightly "annoying" stuff is that changing every time the GOP's offset, when you close the patch you are requested to save. Is there a workaround for this?
unfortunately not. donecanvasdialog makes the patch "dirty". I've asked
for it to be changed, but no reply. you try making pressure for that as
well.
João
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