Hah ok, that's what I figured but didn't try. After writing patch file parsing for PdParty, I agree that they are not "human readable". It would be nice if there was a short list as you say for the most obvious options.

On Aug 7, 2013, at 6:00 AM, pd-list-request@iem.at wrote:

From: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoelnig@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] gui object arguments Date: August 7, 2013 2:42:33 AM EDT To: pd-list@iem.at

On 08/07/13 07:49, Dan Wilcox wrote:

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Do any of the pd gui / iem gui objects take creation args? Forgive me if I missed this in the help patches.

all of them do, as this is the way how they keep their properties when loading a patch.

on the downside, most of these arguments are not really meant for humans to parse/write. and afair, they don't support "short lists" of arguments (so you have to specify all arguments, or a rather longish subset)

fgmasdr IOhannes

Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com