Hello List,
I recently changed my distribution to 64 Studio. Despite all criticism against 64bit the performance on this particular laptop increased dramatically, also with non realtime stuff. Especially video applications like Cinelerra are now much more responsive. Maybe partly because its 64bit, partly perhaps its more optimised for AMD than the K7 Kernel, partly its realtime and partly because I got the current Nvidia driver installed, I dont care. Important is that it now feels like my hardware synthesizers in terms of snappyness and timing.
Question is where to get a recent 64bit pd, the Debian64 repos only holds a bare .39 which still got the tabwrite bug and lot of externals are missing, so far only zexy, gem, pdp and pd-aubio are provided. I tried to build some stuff but failed so far. Any other 64bitters out there with some hints, *.debs or repos?
Cheers and thanks for any hints in advance,
Malte
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Em Qui, 2006-12-21 às 18:26 +0100, Malte Steiner escreveu:
Hello List,
I recently changed my distribution to 64 Studio. Despite all criticism against 64bit the performance on this particular laptop increased dramatically, also with non realtime stuff. Especially video applications like Cinelerra are now much more responsive. Maybe partly because its 64bit, partly perhaps its more optimised for AMD than the K7 Kernel, partly its realtime and partly because I got the current Nvidia driver installed, I dont care. Important is that it now feels like my hardware synthesizers in terms of snappyness and timing.
Question is where to get a recent 64bit pd, the Debian64 repos only holds a bare .39 which still got the tabwrite bug and lot of externals are missing, so far only zexy, gem, pdp and pd-aubio are provided. I tried to build some stuff but failed so far. Any other 64bitters out there with some hints, *.debs or repos?
Cheers and thanks for any hints in advance,
Malte
Hi i run Pd extended with some externals working, but im a noob in pd and a lot of things i didnt catched yet, i would advice you to do a cvs update and compile everything on your own for a "stable" system.
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, Malte Steiner wrote:
partly perhaps its more optimised for AMD than the K7 Kernel,
how more optimised for AMD can you get?
can something be more AMD than AMD ?
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Malte Steiner a écrit :
Hello List,
I recently changed my distribution to 64 Studio. Despite all criticism against 64bit the performance on this particular laptop increased dramatically, also with non realtime stuff. Especially video applications like Cinelerra are now much more responsive. Maybe partly because its 64bit, partly perhaps its more optimised for AMD than the K7 Kernel, partly its realtime and partly because I got the current Nvidia driver installed, I dont care. Important is that it now feels like my hardware synthesizers in terms of snappyness and timing.
Question is where to get a recent 64bit pd, the Debian64 repos only holds a bare .39 which still got the tabwrite bug and lot of externals are missing, so far only zexy, gem, pdp and pd-aubio are provided. I tried to build some stuff but failed so far. Any other 64bitters out there with some hints, *.debs or repos?
Cheers and thanks for any hints in advance,
Malte
If you have pain to compile 64bit externals, I've made a bunch of AMD64 pd_linux here:
http://megalego.free.fr/pd/extra/
Installing Nvidia driver increasing video performances seems obvious, it was allready the case with i386,
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You could build the Pd-extended package on yoyur machine with the
right compiler flags, then everything should be 64-bit. Even better
would be to help generate debian packages from the Pd-extended build
system. That is happening already with the PlanetCCRMA RPMs.
.hc
On Dec 21, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Malte Steiner wrote:
Hello List,
I recently changed my distribution to 64 Studio. Despite all
criticism against 64bit the performance on this particular laptop
increased dramatically, also with non realtime stuff. Especially
video applications like Cinelerra are now much more responsive.
Maybe partly because its 64bit, partly perhaps its more optimised
for AMD than the K7 Kernel, partly its realtime and partly because
I got the current Nvidia driver installed, I dont care. Important
is that it now feels like my hardware synthesizers in terms of
snappyness and timing.Question is where to get a recent 64bit pd, the Debian64 repos only
holds a bare .39 which still got the tabwrite bug and lot of
externals are missing, so far only zexy, gem, pdp and pd-aubio are
provided. I tried to build some stuff but failed so far. Any other
64bitters out there with some hints, *.debs or repos?Cheers and thanks for any hints in advance,
Malte
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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
You could build the Pd-extended package on yoyur machine with the right compiler flags, then everything should be 64-bit. Even better would be to help generate debian packages from the Pd-extended build system.
That is happening already with the PlanetCCRMA RPMs.
I certainly want to offer a help. But the compilation so far has been a bumpy ride and still I didnt have all externals compiled properly, but at least the most important ones I needed for a concert yesterday. I dont know if it would be a help for anyone to pack up the .pd_linux and example patches into a .deb, it it rather uncomplete and I discoverd at least one or two externals which crash. So far my plan is to investigate further the issues and become to be able to perform a complete compilation.
Cheers,
Malte
On Dec 30, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Malte Steiner wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
You could build the Pd-extended package on yoyur machine with the
right compiler flags, then everything should be 64-bit. Even
better would be to help generate debian packages from the Pd- extended build system. That is happening already with the
PlanetCCRMA RPMs.I certainly want to offer a help. But the compilation so far has
been a bumpy ride and still I didnt have all externals compiled
properly, but at least the most important ones I needed for a
concert yesterday. I dont know if it would be a help for anyone to
pack up the .pd_linux and example patches into a .deb, it it rather
uncomplete and I discoverd at least one or two externals which crash. So far my plan is to investigate further the issues and become to
be able to perform a complete compilation.
It should be much easier if you checked the release branch:
mkdir pure-data cd pure-data cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended abstractions cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended doc cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended extensions cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended externals cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended pd cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended packages cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended scripts cd packages/linux_make make install && make package
.hc
Cheers,
Malte
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You could build the Pd-extended package on yoyur machine with the right compiler flags, then everything should be 64-bit. Even better would be to help generate debian packages from the Pd-extended build system. That is happening already with the PlanetCCRMA RPMs.
mkdir pure-data cd pure-data cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended abstractions cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended doc cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended extensions cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended externals cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended pd cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended packages cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended scripts cd packages/linux_make make install && make package
do the /{packages,scripts} dirs only exist in the branch-v0-39-2-extended branch? can one just check out those 2 dirs, then use them with the MAIN branch's /pd dir? since thats the only one that has a chance of working mostly correctly on 64bit..
On Dec 31, 2006, at 4:56 PM, carmen wrote:
You could build the Pd-extended package on yoyur machine with
the right compiler flags, then everything should be 64-bit.
Even better would be to help generate debian packages from the
Pd-extended build system. That is happening already with the PlanetCCRMA RPMs.mkdir pure-data cd pure-data cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended abstractions cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended doc cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended extensions cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended externals cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended pd cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended packages cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended scripts cd packages/linux_make make install && make package
do the /{packages,scripts} dirs only exist in the branch-v0-39-2- extended branch? can one just check out those 2 dirs, then use them
with the MAIN branch's /pd dir? since thats the only one that has a
chance of working mostly correctly on 64bit..
Oops, yeah, I forgot about that. Haven't made an 0.40-extended
branch yet, but if you check everything out from MAIN/HEAD, it should
compile against stable_0_40, and it'll include Günter's 64-bit patch.
To include the patches, run this after downloading everything:
cd pure-data/packages make patch
.hc
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Hello,
It should be much easier if you checked the release branch:
mkdir pure-data cd pure-data cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended abstractions cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended doc cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended extensions cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended externals cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended pd cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended packages cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended scripts cd packages/linux_make make install && make package
I will try that. At the moment there is a mismatch with jack and jackdevel lib versions in 64 Studio and regular Debian 64. Unfortunally 64 Studio didn't provide the jackdevellib so at the moment I could built pd extended only without Jacksupport but at least the externals would be there. But I hope in the next few days the dev lib will be available, I really would like to compile a Jacked CSound too...
Cheers,
Malte
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On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:54 AM, Malte Steiner wrote:
Hello,
It should be much easier if you checked the release branch: mkdir pure-data cd pure-data cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended abstractions cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended doc cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended extensions cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended externals cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended pd cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended packages cvs co -r branch-v0-39-2-extended scripts cd packages/linux_make make install && make package
I will try that. At the moment there is a mismatch with jack and
jackdevel lib versions in 64 Studio and regular Debian 64.
Unfortunally 64 Studio didn't provide the jackdevellib so at the
moment I could built pd extended only without Jacksupport but at
least the externals would be there. But I hope in the next few days
the dev lib will be available, I really would like to compile a
Jacked CSound too...
Actually, I was corrected, this is what you should actually do:
mkdir pure-data cd pure-data cvs co abstractions cvs co doc cvs co extensions cvs co externals cvs co -r stable_0_40 pd cvs co packages cvs co scripts cd packages make patch cd linux_make make install && make package
.hc
Cheers,
Malte
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