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somebody installed the Pd-Extended in architectural from AMD 64?
I tried some versions but until here nothing on
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- Re: [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released (Max Neupert)
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- Re: 3dp (Roman Haefeli)
- Re: Abstractions search path hirarchy (was: pduino-arduino trouble) (Roman Haefeli)
- Re: better tabread4~ (Charles Henry)
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:28:01 +1000 From: Max Neupert abonnements@revolwear.com Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released To: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org Cc: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: B79C3816-CC33-4225-961C-7B298DB27503@revolwear.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
done.
Am 2008-06-15 um 23:01 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
Strange one, could you file a bug report?
.hc
On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Max Neupert wrote:
do the following to reproduce a crash (tested on os x, don't know about other systems)
open pd navigate to menu -> Pd-extended -> About Pd... select some of the text close the window crash
Am 2008-06-04 um 20:59 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal
app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later)http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
Here is a partial changelog:
- next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower
on machines < 1 GHz)
- default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/
Application Data/Pd
lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser
you can now use "~" in all paths to mean home folder, and on
Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in
paths
cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms
[declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs
to be done before there namespace support is complete
"File -> Save As" defaults to the Home folder (~/)
fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console
included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X
KNOWN BUGS
check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs
Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
preferences
pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd
loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying
to load it
.hc
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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:45:15 +0200 From: Roman Haefeli reduzierer@yahoo.de Subject: Re: [PD] Abstractions search path hirarchy (was: pduino-arduino trouble) To: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org Cc: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 1213541115.6286.2.camel@yoyo Content-Type: text/plain
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 15:16 +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
It should do that already. I don't remember why it didn't in this case.
i am HEAVILY against this. please, before you change that in pd-extended, provide a patch to change the behaviour in pd-vanilla. actually i don't care too much which way it is implemented, but i do care A LOT that it is consistent over all distros.
your disciple of the curch of consistency roman
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Message: 3 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:49:29 +0200 From: Roman Haefeli reduzierer@yahoo.de Subject: Re: [PD] 3dp To: el jay fotorebelion@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 1213541369.6286.7.camel@yoyo Content-Type: text/plain
please someone confirm, what i am going to say:
pd-extended comes with an internal settings-file, which loads all the libraries. if you accidently (or intentionally) changed some settings (sound, pathes etc.) and you hit 'save', a .pdsettings file to your home directory was written, which overrides the one that comes with pd-extended. this is just a guess, but probably worth to check.
roman
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 15:49 +0200, el jay wrote:
i have been playing with the nightly build of 12-06-008, when installed if from the .deb for gutsy the the 3dp externals worked perfectly and i spent a few hours playing with its possiblites.. i shutdown and went home.. the next day.. i opened pd and the 3dp externals where no longer there... i unistalled and reinstalled.. and they are still not working anymore.. why could this be? _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Message: 4 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:56:29 +0200 From: Roman Haefeli reduzierer@yahoo.de Subject: Re: [PD] Abstractions search path hirarchy (was: pduino-arduino trouble) To: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org Cc: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 1213541789.6286.15.camel@yoyo Content-Type: text/plain
rethinking this again, i came to the conclusion:
the actual behaviour shouldn't be changed. afaik, it is not possible to shadow classes of pd or from binary libraries. changing actual behaviour would lead to many incosistencies, where sometimes an local abstraction would shadow library classes and sometimes not. internal classes couldn't be shadowed anyway. it would make the pd-world definitely more troublesome. unless it is possible to shadow EVERYTHING (classes from binary libraries and internals), this shouldn't be changed, IMO.
i am much more in favor of consistencies in the wrong way than inconsistencies in the right way.
roman
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 16:45 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 15:16 +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
It should do that already. I don't remember why it didn't in this case.
i am HEAVILY against this. please, before you change that in pd-extended, provide a patch to change the behaviour in pd-vanilla. actually i don't care too much which way it is implemented, but i do care A LOT that it is consistent over all distros.
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Message: 5 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:19:49 -0500 From: "Charles Henry" czhenry@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] better tabread4~ To: "cyrille henry" cyrille.henry@la-kitchen.fr, pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 518fe7b20806150919j1b086f6fo5234a890a2749636@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:29 AM, cyrille henry cyrille.henry@la-kitchen.fr wrote:
well, i think the tabread4~ interpolation is a lagrange interpolator (but i'm may be wrong). at least with tabread4~, the 1st derivative is not continuous, while it should be with a cubic interpolation.
The Lagrange interpolation scheme is not continuous, because it fits a polynomial through 4 points (-1, 0 ,1 , 2) and interpolates between 0 and 1. But when it goes to the next 4 points (0, 1, 2, 3), it fits another polynomial and interpolates between 1 and 2. So, the discontinuity in 1st derivative is at each sample.
i program a cubic interpolation, and the shape of the waveform is really different.
please compile the object and look at the help patch to see the difference.
i can also send waveforme picture if needed.
I'm having trouble compiling, due to the garray_getfloatwords symbol. Which version of Pd are you using?
I'd like to see the waveform and test it out. Here's my analysis of key points
(a=x[-1], b=x[0], c=x[1], d=x[2])
83 a0 = d - c - a + b; 84 a1 = a - b - a0; 85 a2 = c - a; 86 *out++ = ((a0*frac+a1)*frac+a2)*frac+b;
At frac=0, output should be b. Check!
At frac=1, output should be c
((a0*1+a1)*1+a2)*1+b =a0+a1+a2+b =d-c-a+b + a-b-(d-c-a+b) + c-a + b =d-c-a+b + a-b-d+c+a-b + c-a + b =d-c-a+b + 2a-2b+c-d + c-a + b =c
Check!
1st derivatives:
At frac=0, d/dx f(x) = c-a
(This quantity really ought to be (c-a)/2, but let's see how the rest comes out)
At frac=1,
d/dx f(x) = 3*(d-c-a+b) + 2*(a-b-d+c+a-b) + c-a =d-b
So, we've got 1st derivatives that match between samples. Check!
This looks like a really good plan. I might suggest some new coefficients to try:
a0=(3b-a-3c+d)/2 a1=a-5b/2+2c-d/2 a2=(c-a)/2
The only difference is the 1st derivatives are (c-a)/2 and (d-b)/2, respectively.
Maybe you could try a 5th-degree polynomial next and set the 2nd derivatives for continuity. This would involve 4-points as before, but it might introduce a ripple in the interpolation (cubic interpolation can't do that, since it only has two critical points).
I'm not keen on doing the spectral analysis, because it would take about 4 hours, to do it by hand.
There's something I would like to see (once I can compile it). I made a patch (attached) a while back to view the tabread4~ interpolation function (impulse response). Give it a try if you're inclined to do so, because it might surprise you.
Chuck
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