i've been looking for something like this modeling: http://arxiv.org/abs/1412.6853
so maybe diy, i tried, am trying and reaching something maybe.
but anyway, has anybody seen something like this for pd or any other language/platform?
cheers and peace ) ( _o_o_ oOo _o_o_ ) (
A curious conceptual leap.
Pretty sure no one as made a Pd lib out of this yet (seems to be in Python?).
Perhaps someone like Alexandre could translate some of the equations into the [exp~] family. I'd be very curious to hear/compare the results.
Will read the paper more thoroughly later (just had a quick skim).
Thanks Renato for bringing it up. How do your versions sound?
Regards,
Julian
On 18 June 2015 at 06:43, Renato Fabbri renato.fabbri@gmail.com wrote:
i've been looking for something like this modeling: http://arxiv.org/abs/1412.6853
so maybe diy, i tried, am trying and reaching something maybe.
but anyway, has anybody seen something like this for pd or any other language/platform?
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2015-06-18 11:24 GMT-03:00 Julian Brooks jbeezez@gmail.com:
A curious conceptual leap.
Could you please describe what you understand by this leap? I got into a somewhat "serious" coding for music believing that it was already a legacy of the music community. Not finding it in almost 10 years, I wrote it. So I am still trying to grasp if this leap is shared and how.
Pretty sure no one as made a Pd lib out of this yet (seems to be in Python?).
Perhaps someone like Alexandre could translate some of the equations into the [exp~] family. I'd be very curious to hear/compare the results. not Will read the paper more thoroughly later (just had a quick skim).
Thanks Renato for bringing it up. How do your versions sound?
Something like this: https://soundcloud.com/le-poste-tche (only the three trios for oboe are output of other approaches). More contex here: https://github.com/ttm/dissertacao/raw/master/dissertacaoCorrigida.pdf
Thanks Julian for the valuable feedback.
PS. should I post this on music-dsp or any other channel?
Best regards, Renato
Regards,
Julian
On 18 June 2015 at 06:43, Renato Fabbri renato.fabbri@gmail.com wrote:
i've been looking for something like this modeling: http://arxiv.org/abs/1412.6853
so maybe diy, i tried, am trying and reaching something maybe.
but anyway, has anybody seen something like this for pd or any other language/platform?
cheers and peace ) ( _o_o_ oOo _o_o_ ) (
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"Could you please describe what you understand by this leap?"
Still 1st impression - not read the article properly yet.
It seems to be proposing a complete reversal of most things I've been taught in the study of electronic music. That as far as the computers concerned data is data - all noise. It seems to propose a quantum level of electronic composition beginning to bypass the top/down element of composing that is supposedly somewhat unavoidable. Less a sculptural process and more, well, like code. Heady stuff (and I could be copmletely wrong after a proper read through).
Going to the park with my 1yr old son
On 18 June 2015 at 21:38, Renato Fabbri renato.fabbri@gmail.com wrote:
2015-06-18 11:24 GMT-03:00 Julian Brooks jbeezez@gmail.com:
A curious conceptual leap.
Could you please describe what you understand by this leap? I got into a somewhat "serious" coding for music believing that it was already a legacy of the music community. Not finding it in almost 10 years, I wrote it. So I am still trying to grasp if this leap is shared and how.
Pretty sure no one as made a Pd lib out of this yet (seems to be in Python?).
Perhaps someone like Alexandre could translate some of the equations into the [exp~] family. I'd be very curious to hear/compare the results. not Will read the paper more thoroughly later (just had a quick skim).
Thanks Renato for bringing it up. How do your versions sound?
Something like this: https://soundcloud.com/le-poste-tche (only the three trios for oboe are output of other approaches). More contex here: https://github.com/ttm/dissertacao/raw/master/dissertacaoCorrigida.pdf
Thanks Julian for the valuable feedback.
PS. should I post this on music-dsp or any other channel?
Best regards, Renato
Regards,
Julian
On 18 June 2015 at 06:43, Renato Fabbri renato.fabbri@gmail.com wrote:
i've been looking for something like this modeling: http://arxiv.org/abs/1412.6853
so maybe diy, i tried, am trying and reaching something maybe.
but anyway, has anybody seen something like this for pd or any other language/platform?
cheers and peace ) ( _o_o_ oOo _o_o_ ) (
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Cool. Maybe written sculpture, somewhat like poetry?
"Perhaps someone like Alexandre could translate some of the equations into the [exp~] family. I'd be very curious to hear/compare the results."
Perhaps. Does he keep up with the postings in this list? Dr. Porres, are you there? I find your suggestion quite interesting. Above all, I think those relations are implemented in PD. This should also be implemented in ChucK, SuperCollider, Faust, Haskore, CSound and what not. Other relations would probably produce artifacts. These are deduced from the physical phenomena of sound and sampling (and the psychophysical relation of hearing and musical appreciation). The contribution seems to be the unified modeling, with the focus on formal relations of the PCM samples to musical attributes.
No? Any thoughts?
PS. can 1yr old play scratch with the parent scratch.mit.edu ?
grateful regards,
2015-06-19 5:51 GMT-03:00 Julian Brooks jbeezez@gmail.com:
"Could you please describe what you understand by this leap?"
Still 1st impression - not read the article properly yet.
It seems to be proposing a complete reversal of most things I've been taught in the study of electronic music. That as far as the computers concerned data is data - all noise. It seems to propose a quantum level of electronic composition beginning to bypass the top/down element of composing that is supposedly somewhat unavoidable. Less a sculptural process and more, well, like code. Heady stuff (and I could be copmletely wrong after a proper read through).
Going to the park with my 1yr old son
On 18 June 2015 at 21:38, Renato Fabbri renato.fabbri@gmail.com wrote:
2015-06-18 11:24 GMT-03:00 Julian Brooks jbeezez@gmail.com:
A curious conceptual leap.
Could you please describe what you understand by this leap? I got into a somewhat "serious" coding for music believing that it was already a legacy of the music community. Not finding it in almost 10 years, I wrote it. So I am still trying to grasp if this leap is shared and how.
Pretty sure no one as made a Pd lib out of this yet (seems to be in Python?).
Perhaps someone like Alexandre could translate some of the equations into the [exp~] family. I'd be very curious to hear/compare the results. not Will read the paper more thoroughly later (just had a quick skim).
Thanks Renato for bringing it up. How do your versions sound?
Something like this: https://soundcloud.com/le-poste-tche (only the three trios for oboe are output of other approaches). More contex here: https://github.com/ttm/dissertacao/raw/master/dissertacaoCorrigida.pdf
Thanks Julian for the valuable feedback.
PS. should I post this on music-dsp or any other channel?
Best regards, Renato
Regards,
Julian
On 18 June 2015 at 06:43, Renato Fabbri renato.fabbri@gmail.com wrote:
i've been looking for something like this modeling: http://arxiv.org/abs/1412.6853
so maybe diy, i tried, am trying and reaching something maybe.
but anyway, has anybody seen something like this for pd or any other language/platform?
cheers and peace ) ( _o_o_ oOo _o_o_ ) (
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